Fire at Jambo House

Master Yoda

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So it sounds like they evacuated everyone to the main entrance?

If the fire alarms were going off wouldn't people have gone out of any fire exit and into the fenced in circles in the savannahs?

I thought thats what the circles were for...
It would depend on the severity of the emergency. If the paths out of the resort were blocked or completely filled with smoke then the bomas would get used.
 

shipley731

Well-Known Member
So it sounds like they evacuated everyone to the main entrance?

If the fire alarms were going off wouldn't people have gone out of any fire exit and into the fenced in circles in the savannahs?

I thought thats what the circles were for...
. The announcement that could be heard in the hallways said exit via the nearest exit. Our room is on the 4th floor right near a stairwell. We just went down 1 floor, then out the front entrance. I know others went down into the fenced areas you mention. At some point, CM's got the folks from the fenced areas and led them out to the front.
 

COProgressFan

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This makes me think that they sometimes still get it.

Never doubted that for the front-line, day-to-day decision makers. They're the ones that still get it.

I thought the same thing. Sounds like the CMs and area managers did a great job in providing great service for an unforeseen event like this. This is exactly what customer service should be.

So many of the folks who work the front lines with guests every day do care; they do "get it". It's just a shame that the decisions of upper management don't reflect the same genuine care for doing whats right for their customers.

So kudos to the CMs for doing a great job, and thankful that everything turned out ok.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR

"Firefighters said the fire started in a can in a storage room and created heavy smoke."

How does a can in a storage locker suddenly go a flame? Almost too tiny of a sliver of info. :confused:

@PhotoDave219 Didn't you report on the Spirit thread last night it was Electrical?
 

PhotoDave219

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"Firefighters said the fire started in a can in a storage room and created heavy smoke."

How does a can in a storage locker suddenly go a flame? Almost too tiny of a sliver of info. :confused:

@PhotoDave219 Didn't you report on the Spirit thread last night it was Electrical?

That what I heard. I was out.

But how does a can go up in flame? Science!
 

Master Yoda

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"Firefighters said the fire started in a can in a storage room and created heavy smoke."

How does a can in a storage locker suddenly go a flame? Almost too tiny of a sliver of info. :confused:

@PhotoDave219 Didn't you report on the Spirit thread last night it was Electrical?
It depends on what is in the can. Any chemicals that oxidize can generate a ton of heat and will eventually catch fire even without an ignition source. It is pretty common for a number of different oils ranging from motor oil to linseed oil.

It is why containers like the one below are used for storing oily rags. If they do catch fire, it will typically contain the fire, but the amount smoke from one of these fires can be absolutely insane.

epcp_0505_01_z+griots_garage_six_gallon_oil_rag_fire_safe+photo.jpg
 

PhilharMagician

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Sounds like a good response on behalf of Jambo CM's. Must stink to be in the middle of dinner and suddenly be evacuated, but I imagine guests were taken care of.
 

ABQ

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It depends on what is in the can. Any chemicals that oxidize can generate a ton of heat and will eventually catch fire even without an ignition source. It is pretty common for a number of different oils ranging from motor oil to linseed oil.

It is why containers like the one below are used for storing oily rags. If they do catch fire, it will typically contain the fire, but the amount smoke from one of these fires can be absolutely insane.

epcp_0505_01_z+griots_garage_six_gallon_oil_rag_fire_safe+photo.jpg
If they had one of those cans, they obviously didn't follow the suggestions printed in 3 languages on the label.
 

boufa

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Fires happen. No matter how hard you try to reduce the risk. Sounds minor, and sounds like the cast did the right thing. A Disney win.

Remember, you eliminate risk, you manage it.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
It depends on what is in the can. Any chemicals that oxidize can generate a ton of heat and will eventually catch fire even without an ignition source. It is pretty common for a number of different oils ranging from motor oil to linseed oil.

It is why containers like the one below are used for storing oily rags. If they do catch fire, it will typically contain the fire, but the amount smoke from one of these fires can be absolutely insane.

epcp_0505_01_z+griots_garage_six_gallon_oil_rag_fire_safe+photo.jpg

I grasp that. So these would be stored near guest areas in a resort why?
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I grasp that. So these would be stored near guest areas in a resort why?
First and foremost, we do not even know that this was the cause. It is pure speculation based on the infinitesimal bit of information we have.

Second, there is little to no risk with oily rags when dealt with properly. You have to remember that even oil used as a furniture polish can do this. It does not need to be anything that exotic. Considering that the entire resort is filled with hand carved wood furniture, I would wager that they buy linseed oil or something similar by the barrel.

Lastly, I can guarantee you that there are far more dangerous chemicals and items than oily rags stored in maintenance closets in every resort on the planet.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Resorts still have all sorts of mechanical equipment.

True. I'm not obviously in the hotel industry so I do lack knowledge in these type of chemical storage procedures.
If this is the protocol at AKL what the heck happened that there was that much smoke in guests areas of the resort? If you wander back to my post where I questioned this originally it seems that the reporting and information is minimalist at best. Almost like they won't say anything beyond a 'can caught fire'....
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
First and foremost, we do not even know that this was the cause. It is pure speculation based on the infinitesimal bit of information we have.

Second, there is little to no risk with oily rags when dealt with properly. You have to remember that even oil used as a furniture polish can do this. It does not need to be anything that exotic. Considering that the entire resort is filled with hand carved wood furniture, I would wager that they buy linseed oil or something similar by the barrel.

Lastly, I can guarantee you that there are far more dangerous chemicals and items than oily rags stored in maintenance closets in every resort on the planet.

My husband owns a tool and die company. I am familiar with combustible materials. But like you said we are surmising and don't even know this to be the case. I'd love to read the fire department report (if they are anything like ours are, detailed) 'cause this story to me at first blush seems to be being squished.
 

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