FastPass could SOLVE the DAS Delima!

yensid1967

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
With the way this is going, I think they will get back to some sort of FP system. FP worked very well, there was no need to get rid of it! Free FP's could solve the DAS problem, when they get a return time, they use the Lightning Lane. They have 'virtually' waited and probably spend money of merchandise or food! There! I solved their DAS problem...Disney can send me my check next pay day! LOL
 

nickys

Premium Member
With the way this is going, I think they will get back to some sort of FP system. FP worked very well, there was no need to get rid of it! Free FP's could solve the DAS problem, when they get a return time, they use the Lightning Lane. They have 'virtually' waited and probably spend money of merchandise or food! There! I solved their DAS problem...Disney can send me my check next pay day! LOL
They won’t get rid of paid FP.

The FP+ system was broken, operationally speaking.
 

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
Tying it in to the DAS does make some sense because anyone who has a disability can get some assistance and not just limiting it to a very specific case. DW and our family has used the DAS system on every trip weve taken and its helped immensely. Weve never abused it or used it for an unfair advantage. Dis should get a better handle on DAS to discourage the abuse which caused problems in the first place.
With the paid system Dis isnt going to let go because theyve seen a huge increase in money pouring in. Guests would rather pay than be left out for attractions they want. Its now become a part of the Dis planning to now budget for the extra expenditure. If you have the bucks you can pay and play.
FP had its detractors who've stated it caused more problems with line waits and unfairly distributed the passes over the day. I guess any system will get abused by those who find a way around the rules to benefit themselves over others. No system can be fool proof because of the limitations placed on what they can ask or prove as a disability to keep out the scammers.
 

Kingoglow

Well-Known Member
How does your solution solve the issue of people cheating the system to acquire a DAS pass (unless your suggesting that every guest goes back to FP+)? How does it address issues with people fixating on rides and wanting to ride something over and over again? How does your suggestion fill the hole left in Disney's balance sheet if LLSP/MP goes away?
 

yensid1967

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
How does your suggestion fill the hole left in Disney's balance sheet if LLSP/MP goes away?
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PLEASE! With ALL the nickel and diming their guests, they can afford it with all the other inflated costs of food and smaller portions and merchandise! Disney will raise the prices just because they can and the guests will still pay! Its only when guests start to WISE UP and say NO MORE will things get better/ Disney is a ARROGANT company in the theme park division. They know the guest will pay more for less. We can agree that the MAGIC IS GONE! and many guests including AP and DVC are tired of the same old excuses for another price hike! Bob Iger said that the prices were too high, but what did they do? They raised the prices, and guests still paid. Guests need to start making some noise!
 

yensid1967

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Tying it in to the DAS does make some sense because anyone who has a disability can get some assistance and not just limiting it to a very specific case. DW and our family has used the DAS system on every trip weve taken and its helped immensely. Weve never abused it or used it for an unfair advantage. Dis should get a better handle on DAS to discourage the abuse which caused problems in the first place.
With the paid system Dis isnt going to let go because theyve seen a huge increase in money pouring in. Guests would rather pay than be left out for attractions they want. Its now become a part of the Dis planning to now budget for the extra expenditure. If you have the bucks you can pay and play.
FP had its detractors who've stated it caused more problems with line waits and unfairly distributed the passes over the day. I guess any system will get abused by those who find a way around the rules to benefit themselves over others. No system can be fool proof because of the limitations placed on what they can ask or prove as a disability to keep out the scammers.
Maybe Disney can put the costs in the ticket prices!? When you plan what days and what parks, you already know what rides you want to do so just add the MUST DO rides to your ticket price! They can incorporate the FP's back in
OR go back to an a la carte menu for main attractions and be billed by a Magic Card...that would operate like a gift card(?)
Just ideas to get your eyes and dependence on your cell phone! THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD HAVE OUR EYES IN OUR PHONES PRACTICALLY ALL DAY! for something that could be fixed and still make Disney money! There has got to be a common ground somewhere!
 

nickys

Premium Member
Maybe Disney can put the costs in the ticket prices!? When you plan what days and what parks, you already know what rides you want to do so just add the MUST DO rides to your ticket price! They can incorporate the FP's back in
OR go back to an a la carte menu for main attractions and be billed by a Magic Card...that would operate like a gift card(?)
Just ideas to get your eyes and dependence on your cell phone! THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD HAVE OUR EYES IN OUR PHONES PRACTICALLY ALL DAY! for something that could be fixed and still make Disney money! There has got to be a common ground somewhere!
You’d still have to check your phone to see what time your next ride is. 😉

You could just not buy LLs. But even then you might want to check the app to see what the wait time is for a ride rather than trek across the park only to find the wait is 90 minutes.

But there’s nothing to stop you just free-wheeling around the parks and simply choose to wait or skip each ride.
 

ComeOnYall

New Member
With the way this is going, I think they will get back to some sort of FP system. FP worked very well, there was no need to get rid of it! Free FP's could solve the DAS problem, when they get a return time, they use the Lightning Lane. They have 'virtually' waited and probably spend money of merchandise or food! There! I solved their DAS problem...Disney can send me my check next pay day! LOL
That is the way it use to be. You would check in for the ride on the app, then wait until the assigned reporting time. It was not like you could hop back to back, it just let you virtually check in. I used it my last 6 visits, but our next one in April...I don't think they will approve it...even with my doctors information.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
With the way this is going, I think they will get back to some sort of FP system. FP worked very well, there was no need to get rid of it! Free FP's could solve the DAS problem, when they get a return time, they use the Lightning Lane. They have 'virtually' waited and probably spend money of merchandise or food! There! I solved their DAS problem...Disney can send me my check next pay day! LOL
Disney has the taste of "money for nothing" there will NEVER be FREE front of the line access EVER AGAIN!

Besides, DAS has been fixed now by rejecting folks with real limitations who previously qualified.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
From what I’ve read, it wasn’t abuse that caused Disney to limit DAS.

It was that an aging population coupled with a broadened definition of disability resulted in too many people qualifying for DAS.
 
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ComeOnYall

New Member
From what I’ve read, it wasn’t abuse that caused Disney to limit DAS.

It was that an aging population coupled with a broadened definition of disability resulted in too many people qualifying for DAS.
It was absolutely abuse-that is what they have cited since the change. I have no problem proving my disease...and what my doctor designates, but I am not disabled enough for them. I wish they would do what Universal does and make it simple.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
It was absolutely abuse-that is what they have cited since the change. I have no problem proving my disease...and what my doctor designates, but I am not disabled enough for them. I wish they would do what Universal does and make it simple.
They would have gone that route except that too many people would have proved that they needed DAS.
 

ComeOnYall

New Member
They would have gone that route except that too many people would have proved that they needed DAS.
It is the same at all Six Flags parks and Universal has this requirement. Their excuse was that it seems intrusive and could violate privacy concerns. Not really. You are not obligated to apply and turn in the paperwork. If I choose to submit, that was my decision. As it is, I have to tell a cast member about my disability and explain why i need the pass. Disney's response to those who were declined was to purchase a LL pass.
Make it make sense...
 

Chi84

Premium Member
It is the same at all Six Flags parks and Universal has this requirement. Their excuse was that it seems intrusive and could violate privacy concerns. Not really. You are not obligated to apply and turn in the paperwork. If I choose to submit, that was my decision. As it is, I have to tell a cast member about my disability and explain why i need the pass. Disney's response to those who were declined was to purchase a LL pass.
Make it make sense...
Disney Parks seem to have more rides that are accessible to people with disabilities than those other parks. Much more for very young kids and elderly adults.

That demographic includes many young children who have autism and older people with age-related illnesses.

I’m not sure comparing those parks is productive.
 

ComeOnYall

New Member
Disney Parks seem to have more rides that are accessible to people with disabilities than those other parks. Much more for very young kids and elderly adults.

That demographic includes many young children who have autism and older people with age-related illnesses.

I’m not sure comparing those parks is productive.
I am not comparing the parks...I am comparing a policy that works versus calling in and talking to a cast member to only be declined because in their professional opinion it is not needed.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
From what I’ve read, it wasn’t abuse that caused Disney to limit DAS.

It was that an aging population coupled with a broadened definition of disability resulted in too many people qualifying for DAS.

When the numbers reached one in four that could identify as having a disability, it was a death knell.
 

ComeOnYall

New Member
Yes, but differences in the parks are what leads to differences in the policies.
That makes absolutely no sense. ANY park that offers a service such as DAS should consider exactly what the existing parks are doing. It does not matter how many people utilize the service. It is consistent. What Disney is doing-is absolutely inconsistent.
 

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