ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
It's tied somehow to the base account because I let my pass expire (renewed within the 30 day though) and tried with a one day ticket - no joy
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FastPass+ Chaos at MK today
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It's tied somehow to the base account because I let my pass expire (renewed within the 30 day though) and tried with a one day ticket - no joy
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
because Disney confuses people with the 180 day ADR and the 60/30 day FP+ reservation systems
erasure fan1
Well-Known Member
People are saying (myself included) you plan 5 months out not reserve. We are planning now how we are going to tackle each park. What rides should we reserve and at what times based on our dining plans..... 5 months before our trip.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Because DVC is a financial system - being able to delete would be a REALLY bad thing from a systems and financial audit perspective.
That being said Disney testing a new system with production data was inexcusable.
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
It's been pointed out several times in this post alone that it's not 5/6 months. Is Disney at fault for that too? Or do people just believe their hyperbole makes the argument seem more valid?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
No but as another posted noted you need to PLAN your desired FP+'s around your ADR's so you are planning FP+'s at 180 days out even though you actually reserve 60 or 30 days out.
They ought to be synchronized and possibly even part of the same master scheduling system.
sjhym333
Well-Known Member
You're a better person then I am. I would be planting myself at the desk of the manager of your home resort and ask them what they are going to do about this. Considering all the money that a DVC costs and the fact that DVC members are very loyal customers one would think that they could figure out a work around. Though I understand in Disney's eyes you're just another guest. So sad.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Part of it is I do large scale IT for a living and some errors just can't be fixed without damaging system integrity, When my family loses interest I'll stop going but right now we enjoy the time in the parks together and that's really more valuable by far than the ability to pre-schedule a ride.
DougK
Well-Known Member
It's simple. DVC home resort bookings can be done 11 months out. DVC non-home resort bookings can be done 7 months out. Non-DVC Disney hotel rooms can be booked up to 499 days out. Disney dining reservations can be booked 180 days out. Fast Pass + is 60 days out if you have a resort reservation or 30 days out otherwise. Be Our Guest restaurant was approximately 42 days out for lunch if you used the special website or 6 months out for dinner however I think lunch is changing to 180 days out.
What could be simpler?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
backinaction
Well-Known Member
this post sums MM+ perfectly. The planning must be done so far out now that it makes it silly. Also we have a huge problem with the tiering system at epcot and hollywood studios. We were never fastpass commandos with the old system but we'd manage to get soarin and test track fastpasses first thing in the mourning. want to ride both major attractions at epcot now? you'll be waiting at least 2 hours for one ride or the other. and they spent billions on this garbage. How many E ticket's could have been purchased with that money to actually expand ride capacity for the parks?
WedwayPM
Active Member
Nailed it.
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
And not everyone buys a park hopper. ADR's dictate the park of the day and which restaurants are possible. Therefore, the park and potential rides are locked in at the 180 day mark.
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Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
To be fair, I was doing this even before FP+ came online. And to declare, it was just something I liked to do in my spare time, in anticipation of my trip, not because I'm a down to the minute planner. I used to, when I had spare time (like during my lunch break at work, or at night while watching TV or a movie), plan which park on which day, and then pick out my ADRs based on that. I would actually write out a few different schedules/itineraries and discuss with my traveling partner which plan was better. And we'd go from there with some changes.
sjhym333
Well-Known Member
Um...if you hit EPCOT at opening or within an hour or so of opening you could ride Test Track with minimal wait and then use your FP for Soarin...just like in the past. And btw...Test Track currently has a 40 min Standby line.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
This is exactly what I do! Did the same on the old fast pass system as well.
betty rose
Well-Known Member
My brain does not compute, lol
Thats the rub though. To get both Soarin and TT done without waiting in line for one of them, you MUST be there at rope drop. So if your gonna be there at rope drop, it essentially eliminates the need and purpose of FP+.
Look at it this way. Lets say your using FP+ and your gonna arrive at rope drop to get Soarin and TT knocked out quickly. You use a FP+ selection for Soarin, that means you have two selections left. Your choices in tier 2 are basically Nemo, SSE, Imagination, Mission Space, Turtle Talk with Crush, UOE and M&G. All of those are basically a walk on anytime of day, especially if your there early at rope drop. So you hit TT first and then go use your FP+ for Soarin'. Your other tier 2 selections are going to be spaced an hour apart each so now you have to get on MDE and change the time for your next FP+ selection. Lets say your next selection was SSE. Its almost guaranteed to be a walk on early in the morning so your basically changing your FP+ time for no reason other than to be able to change your next FP+ time when you exit SSE. FP+ becomes useless at this point and actually MORE time consuming due to having to get on MDE each time to up your ride time and you cant even make another tier 1 selection until ALL 3 of your original FP+ selections have been used.
With legacy you could make another tier 1 selection right after getting off Soarin and while you wait for return time you could hit almost every ride in the park with no wait and you DIDNT have to get on MDE for anything. The only way to get more than one tier 1 attraction before lunch with FP+ is to utilize the same strategy that people used with legacy FP.
People citing that MM+ is not as efficient as some make it out to be is not "first world problems". Can a person not have an opinion of something unless they live in a war torn, third world country? While I agree that a theme park IT system is hardly something to get worked up about, that does not mean if you dont like it you have to be silent simply because you dont live in poverty and you should just be thankful that TWDC spent billions on it.