Expedition Everest Construction?

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that makes it good!

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[MrPromey]

Originally posted by Snapper Bean
That leads me to an interesting question. I wonder what the average dollar of revenue per person in the various age groups is? Is Disney better off attracting more families or more teens on a per capita basis. I'm looking forward to Everest. Disney has rarely made their mark by "out-thrilling" the competition but rather by "out-theming" the competition. I think that a coaster that goes both forwards and backwards will be a good hook.

The problem with out-thrilling the competition is it never really works. As long as there is competition the only real thing separating you from them is the top speed, height, loop or some other trivia fact about your ride that somehow makes it better on paper. Right now for instance, it seems like there is this big cold war going on with roller coasters. They are relatively cheap to produce and while yours is the biggest and baddest in your area, it attracts more guests. This only lasts for a few years until someone else comes up with something bigger and badder.

I don’t think that Splash Mountain gets the long waits that it does and is as popular as it is because of intense drops. In fact, I know people who go on it and like everything about it except that last drop at the end. I think that Disney is well aware that most people aren’t traveling across the country or half way across the world simply to get shaken or spun or flipped until they loose their lunch. In most of the world, you can go someplace much closer to home for that kind of entertainment.

For those who like coaster and come to Florida, Bush Gardens has six of them (not counting their kiddy one). That is twice as many as Universal (not counting their kiddy one) and yet they rank #11 for most visited parks in the US directly behind their overall more sedate sister park Sea World.

Just look at the tip ten:

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/summer.trips/top30.html

1. The Magic Kingdom (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
2. Disneyland (Anaheim, California)
Epcot (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
4. Disney MGM Studios (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
5. Disney's Animal Kingdom (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
6. Universal Studios (Orlando, Florida)
7. Islands of Adventures (Orlando, Florida)
8. Universal Studios Hollywood (Hollywood, California)
9. Seaworld Florida (Orlando, Florida)
10. Disney's California Adventure (Anaheim, California)

There is only one park on that list that is even promoted heavily for thrill rides and it still comes in behind a sister park of it which generally caters to a more sedate crowd. Tastes change but I think that guests are still voting pretty clearly with their money.

 

[AndyMagic]

Originally posted by MrPromey

I don’t think that Splash Mountain gets the long waits that it does and is as popular as it is because of intense drops. In fact, I know people who go on it and like everything about it except that last drop at the end. I think that Disney is well aware that most people aren’t traveling across the country or half way across the world simply to get shaken or spun or flipped until they loose their lunch. In most of the world, you can go someplace much closer to home for that kind of entertainment.

For those who like coaster and come to Florida, Bush Gardens has six of them (not counting their kiddy one). That is twice as many as Universal (not counting their kiddy one) and yet they rank #11 for most visited parks in the US directly behind their overall more sedate sister park Sea World.

Just look at the tip ten:

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/summer.trips/top30.html

1. The Magic Kingdom (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
2. Disneyland (Anaheim, California)
Epcot (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
4. Disney MGM Studios (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
5. Disney's Animal Kingdom (Lake Buena Vista, Florida)
6. Universal Studios (Orlando, Florida)
7. Islands of Adventures (Orlando, Florida)
8. Universal Studios Hollywood (Hollywood, California)
9. Seaworld Florida (Orlando, Florida)
10. Disney's California Adventure (Anaheim, California)

There is only one park on that list that is even promoted heavily for thrill rides and it still comes in behind a sister park of it which generally caters to a more sedate crowd. Tastes change but I think that guests are still voting pretty clearly with their money.

If you are going to use the top ten to show that times haven't changed, you should use the attendance figures with percentage of increase/decrease from previous years. It is understood that Disney's parks would be in the top but what interests me is that attendance at the 4 Disney theme parks have been decreasing, while both Universal parks have been steadily rising.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by AndyMagic
If you are going to use the top ten to show that times haven't changed, you should use the attendance figures with percentage of increase/decrease from previous years. It is understood that Disney's parks would be in the top but what interests me is that attendance at the 4 Disney theme parks have been decreasing, while both Universal parks have been steadily rising.

True, such a list is misleading, but I doubt that Universal parks are doing any better than all the Disney parks combined at this point in time. All the Disney parks no matter how much they may be decreasing in attendence right now, still hold a sizable advantage over Universal's theme parks. The only park that can even come close to AK (the lowest of the WDW parks) is IOA, and it is possible that in the near future IOA will pass AK. But I doubt that this could happen unless something new is built in IOA in the near future before E:E opens at AK.

I'm not saying Disney is immortal here and can't be touched, competition is healthy for companies, and the consumer benefits in the end (atleast I hope :animwink: ).

I think as long as Disney builds rides for "the whole family"(which in the end is more profitable), not too tame and not too thrilling (and highly themed) it shouldn't have any problems. At the same time, Disney should sprinkle a few thrill rides in their parks aswell as kiddie rides so that everyone is happy. Just don't over do it in either direction. Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[AndyMagic]

Originally posted by objr
True, such a list is misleading, but I doubt that Universal parks are doing any better than all the Disney parks combined at this point in time. All the Disney parks no matter how much they may be decreasing in attendence right now, still hold a sizable advantage over Universal's theme parks. The only park that can even come close to AK (the lowest of the WDW parks) is IOA, and it is possible that in the near future IOA will pass AK. But I doubt that this could happen unless something new is built in IOA in the near future before E:E opens at AK.

I'm not saying Disney is immortal here and can't be touched, competition is healthy for companies, and the consumer benefits in the end (atleast I hope :animwink: ).

I think as long as Disney builds rides for "the whole family"(which in the end is more profitable), not too tame and not too thrilling (and highly themed) it shouldn't have any problems. At the same time, Disney should sprinkle a few thrill rides in their parks aswell as kiddie rides so that everyone is happy. Just don't over do it in either direction. Anyway, just my opinion. [/B

Very well said. I don't doubt that Disney will stay on top, I just wanted to point out that Universal is slowly gaining ground. We all have to remember that Disney World was built in 1971 and Universal in 1990. All things considered, I'd say it's pretty impressive what Universal has done over the years to compete. As of now however, most people still go down to Orlando to visit Disney World and will simply take an extra two days to visit Universal. When or if the day comes where a sizable amount of people choose to make Universal their main destination, then Disney should start to worry. To me, the competition is what makes the parks so great. Who knows if we would have half the attractions we do today at both resorts if it weren't for the constant competition next door.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by AndyMagic
Who knows if we would have half the attractions we do today at both resorts if it weren't for the constant competition next door.

I agree, the only reason why M:S was built was because of IOA, and E:E is being built for the same reason (for AK to stay ahead of IOA). I like comparing both resorts, cause its intresting to see what two different companies can do; however I really dislike when the companies copy each other, or attack one another. But hey thats the world we live in I guess, competition sometimes gets nasty.

:animwink: :hammer:

 

[Mikejakester]

Right on guys i agree with everything you guys are saying.

and talking about attacking other companies

however I really dislike when the companies copy each other, or attack one another. But hey thats the world we live in I guess, competition sometimes gets nasty

have you guys seen the Universal Orlando comercial?
The narrator says something at the end like "Fantasy Stories and Pixi dust not your thing? Then come to universal Orlando" or something really similar to that.
It's obvious they are talking about Disney. the first time I heard I was Laughing my A$$ off. I Was like Waaa did I just hear? pixi dust not your thing? da mn! that was straigh out!

They difinatly sell themselfs as a more thrill park