Expand the monorail

morningstar

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The monorail is overdue for an expansion. Disney World has expanded extensively in the last 30 years with more theme parks and resorts, but not the monorail. Traveling by bus is decidedly un-magical, but is the primary mode of travel for on-site guests. For many guests, if they choose the most efficient mode of transportation, they would not ride the monorail during their whole stay, especially on-site guests excluding monorail resorts. Only guests arriving by car bound for the Magic Kingdom, guests at monorail resorts, and park-hoppers between Magic Kingdom and Epcot have a practical reason to use the monorail.

Here are my ideas for expansion, from least to most extensive:

1) Parallel tracks from the TTC to Hollywood Studios then Animal Kingdom. The tracks would loop at the ends to return trains onto the opposite-direction track. Both directions stop at Hollywood Studios. Stops: TTC, Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom, Hollywood Studios, TTC.

This addition is simple and would allow monorail-based park-hopping between any two parks with at most one change of monorail. You can hop between Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom non-stop in either direction. Downside: hopping between HS/AK and EC via the TTC is a long distance with a fair amount of backtracking.

2) Additionally, relocate the TTC near the intersection of World Drive and Epcot Center Drive. Divert the Magic Kingdom loop onto the Epcot parallel tracks at the location of the current TTC. Trains stop at the new TTC in both directions. The combined loop would go Magic Kingdom, TTC, Epcot, TTC, Magic Kingdom. Some trains would additionally stop at Grand Floridian and Polynesian between MK and TTC and at Contemporary from TTC to MK. The existing resort monorail loop around Seven Seas Lagoon would remain unchanged for access between resorts and the Magic Kingdom. Possibly the new track linking the MK loop and Epcot can go through Wilderness Lodge and some trains stop there too. However direct access to Wilderness Lodge from MK would not be convenient as you'd have to go around almost the whole loop including Epcot. WL has the boat from MK, though.

Relocating the TTC would make the connection between HS/AK and EC faster and require less track building for the HS/AK extension. Hopping between Epcot and the Magic Kingdom would no longer require a train change at the TTC, only a stop, as would access to Epcot from the monorail resorts.

3) A resort loop that could include Animal Kingdom, All-Star resorts (one stop), Art of Animation / POP Century (one stop), Caribbean Beach, Hollywood Studios, Boardwalk / Beach Club / Yacht Club / Swan / Dolphin, TTC if relocated, Coronado Springs, Animal Kingdom.

This expansion could stand on its own or in combination with one or both of the above. At the least it provides monorail access from resorts to two parks. With a TTC stop it would provide one-transfer access to MK and EC also; without it would be possible with two transfers via HS and TTC. Eight stops would probably be too many, so possibly the value resorts would get left out, or some trains would stop at some resorts and other trains at others.

If all three expansions were implemented, then the monorail network would link all the theme parks and all the deluxe resorts, plus some moderate resorts and even some value resorts.
 
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DManRightHere

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I never see a resort loop happening. That is part of what makes deluxe resorts.

I'd like to see better park hopping ability. It doesn't even have to be a monorail.

Imagine a huge parking structure (think universal) central to the TTC.

You could ferry/ monorail to magic kingdom
Monorail to Epcot
Subway car (it doesn't have to be underground) to Hollywood studios.
Train to Animal Kingdom

All resort busses take people to TTC

They would have to kick up efficiency, but one major parking area to take of 4 current lots Potentially less employees. Logistics nightmare, but if it is very well planned and organized I think it'd be great and more unique.
 

Pocahontas

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No. Only Deluxe resorts should be on the monorail route. Part of what makes a Deluxe is the proximity and transportation to the parks. It's part of the price.

Also, could you imagine how long it would take to get from where you are to where you want to go? I'd rather take the bus.
 

olinecoach61

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I like a lot of the op ideas but if your going to put more resorts on the monorail the price for those must go up. I know we've been through this before but I wish they would expand.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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jlsHouston

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The monorail is overdue for an expansion. Disney World has expanded extensively in the last 30 years with more theme parks and resorts, but not the monorail. Traveling by bus is decidedly un-magical, but is the primary mode of travel for on-site guests. For many guests, if they choose the most efficient mode of transportation, they would not ride the monorail during their whole stay, especially on-site guests excluding monorail resorts. Only guests arriving by car bound for the Magic Kingdom, guests at monorail resorts, and park-hoppers between Magic Kingdom and Epcot have a practical reason to use the monorail.

Here are my ideas for expansion, from least to most extensive:

1) Parallel tracks from the TTC to Hollywood Studios then Animal Kingdom. The tracks would loop at the ends to return trains onto the opposite-direction track. Both directions stop at Hollywood Studios. Stops: TTC, Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom, Hollywood Studios, TTC.

This addition is simple and would allow monorail-based park-hopping between any two parks with at most one change of monorail. You can hop between Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom non-stop in either direction. Downside: hopping between HS/AK and EC via the TTC is a long distance with a fair amount of backtracking.

2) Additionally, relocate the TTC near the intersection of World Drive and Epcot Center Drive. Divert the Magic Kingdom loop onto the Epcot parallel tracks at the location of the current TTC. Trains stop at the new TTC in both directions. The combined loop would go Magic Kingdom, TTC, Epcot, TTC, Magic Kingdom. Some trains would additionally stop at Grand Floridian and Polynesian between MK and TTC and at Contemporary from TTC to MK. The existing resort monorail loop around Seven Seas Lagoon would remain unchanged for access between resorts and the Magic Kingdom. Possibly the new track linking the MK loop and Epcot can go through Wilderness Lodge and some trains stop there too. However direct access to Wilderness Lodge from MK would not be convenient as you'd have to go around almost the whole loop including Epcot. WL has the boat from MK, though.

Relocating the TTC would make the connection between HS/AK and EC faster and require less track building for the HS/AK extension. Hopping between Epcot and the Magic Kingdom would no longer require a train change at the TTC, only a stop, as would access to Epcot from the monorail resorts.

3) A resort loop that could include Animal Kingdom, All-Star resorts (one stop), Art of Animation / POP Century (one stop), Caribbean Beach, Hollywood Studios, Boardwalk / Beach Club / Yacht Club / Swan / Dolphin, TTC if relocated, Coronado Springs, Animal Kingdom.

This expansion could stand on its own or in combination with one or both of the above. At the least it provides monorail access from resorts to two parks. With a TTC stop it would provide one-transfer access to MK and EC also; without it would be possible with two transfers via HS and TTC. Eight stops would probably be too many, so possibly the value resorts would get left out, or some trains would stop at some resorts and other trains at others.

If all three expansions were implemented, then the monorail network would link all the theme parks and all the deluxe resorts, plus some moderate resorts and even some value resorts.

And what is the budget for this because we have upwards of 2 bil in the MM+ stuff and it's still in testing..
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
No. Only Deluxe resorts should be on the monorail route. Part of what makes a Deluxe is the proximity and transportation to the parks. It's part of the price.

Also, could you imagine how long it would take to get from where you are to where you want to go? I'd rather take the bus.

I can imagine this thread in Imagineer.
 

roj2323

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Realistically if you were going to do it, and had the ridiculous amount of money you would need to do it, the best (most affordable) way to do it would be to modify the epcot loop. Doing this would allow you to get stations at port orleans, old key west, blizzard beach, DAK (hidden / underground), and Coronado springs before linking back into the existing track. If they wanted to go the extra mile they could get a station to typhoon lagoon as well but that's probably too close to disney springs for there liking.

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James122

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It'll never happen. As others have stated, the future of WDW transportation is busses. Besides being extremely costly, any kind of extension would require additional trains, and WDW can barely maintain the fleet they have now.
 

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