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mightyduck
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But then it would interfere with MY entertainment. Fewer players would get rich, get stupid, get in trouble with the law, get in trouble with the IRS, and then whine on the talk show circuit about "exploitation." Whatever would I fill my time with? 
I agree with you, except the youngsters being exploited can't get exploited fast enough to suit themselves. They'd sign a contract at 12 if they were allowed. (In which case, they might have enough time to lose it all, go to rehab, be in several 12-step programs and have that all-important "second chance" they are divinely entitled to by 18! Hey! That's a great idea!).
I agree with you, except the youngsters being exploited can't get exploited fast enough to suit themselves. They'd sign a contract at 12 if they were allowed. (In which case, they might have enough time to lose it all, go to rehab, be in several 12-step programs and have that all-important "second chance" they are divinely entitled to by 18! Hey! That's a great idea!).
ArchiDanDisney
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Agreed!
SpongeScott
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no argument here.
Mouse3268
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I am half in half in this topic. Part of me says that they should go to college and get a higher education. But the other part of me thinks that someone is waiting 4 years to be a millionaire when he would be one very very soon and it is almost a waste of time to go to college for those type of people that could go pro. The only excption is football due to the fact that a 19 year old kid would not be able to handle the phyisical part of the sport.
Epcot is my fav
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NO....i dont agree.....if a player like LeBron James is good and can handle the NBA he should go and then after his career where he will make more money then any of us is over then if he chooses he can go back to college....you need to live in the moment.....any day he can get into a car accident and never walk again....at least he will have millions to keep himself going then he can get his education and look for another career.....i think that if a player is good enough he should go to the professional level....you may never get the chance again.!!!!!
You can't turn pro in football until after junior year I think. It may be sophomore. I know freshman can't.
Baseball is tough to do. Most people spend years in the minor leagues. 2 years of college means 20-21. Then five or six years at least in the minors for most kids means you're finally reaching the pros around 30. That's not much of a career.
Not sure about hockey, but it seems that more and more are coming from foreign countries and not so much from college. Maybe Dan can give a better answer.
Basketball's top players have skipped college all together. Kobe, T-Mac, Garnett, Stoudamire, Jermaine O'Neal, Moses Malone.
What are you going to do about the 25 year old foreign kids that have been playing pro in foreign countries? They can't go to college. Should they not get drafted? Signing free agent contracts isn't fair for most teams because they won't be able to afford the superstars.
What about tennis players? Most start losing their touch around 30-32. They start playing in their teens.
Baseball is tough to do. Most people spend years in the minor leagues. 2 years of college means 20-21. Then five or six years at least in the minors for most kids means you're finally reaching the pros around 30. That's not much of a career.
Not sure about hockey, but it seems that more and more are coming from foreign countries and not so much from college. Maybe Dan can give a better answer.
Basketball's top players have skipped college all together. Kobe, T-Mac, Garnett, Stoudamire, Jermaine O'Neal, Moses Malone.
What are you going to do about the 25 year old foreign kids that have been playing pro in foreign countries? They can't go to college. Should they not get drafted? Signing free agent contracts isn't fair for most teams because they won't be able to afford the superstars.
What about tennis players? Most start losing their touch around 30-32. They start playing in their teens.
Brett
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Players shouldn't go until they are definently ready. But how do you know when someone is definently ready? That's where it becomes an issue of instant impact or potential.
As for college, it is supposed to train you in a trade that you will work with in life. A great example of leaving college is Carmello Anthony. Why should he stay in college when he can leave now and make millions instantly? College can't serve him anymore. It prepared him. If he wants a degree, he always have the money to go back now.
As for college, it is supposed to train you in a trade that you will work with in life. A great example of leaving college is Carmello Anthony. Why should he stay in college when he can leave now and make millions instantly? College can't serve him anymore. It prepared him. If he wants a degree, he always have the money to go back now.
Bairstow
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People are in their physical prime from the ages of 18-26. Why make half of those years the ones that they won't be able to use to their fullest athletic potential? Making college mandatory for people in those years is a misallocation of human potential. Second, why make education mandatory for people who may never have any use for it? There's a lot of people out there who simply don't want or need secondary education to do what they want to do with their lives. Third, this is America. Let people make their own choices and suffer the consequences. Neither the government nor the sports leagues have any right or business to dictate to people what they can and cannot do with their lives.
mightyduck
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Umm, high school is secondary school. College is post-secondary education.
And you are right, we should probably not require people to be educated who don't need to know things.
And you are right, we should probably not require people to be educated who don't need to know things.
I just thought of another thing.
If someone is good enough to go pro, then he's definitely going to get a full-ride at some school. Why should the taxpayers pay for the guy's room/board/books/tuition when the guy is only going to college because someone is requiring him/her to before going pro.
If someone is good enough to go pro, then he's definitely going to get a full-ride at some school. Why should the taxpayers pay for the guy's room/board/books/tuition when the guy is only going to college because someone is requiring him/her to before going pro.
mightyduck
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Well, I was thinking for the reasons described above: that for many youngsters who "go pro," they run into the same problems as winning the lottery. A college education for some sports has replaced the minor leagues as a training ground for athletes to become savvy about things like media, groupies, teamwork (for many, they are used to being big fish in little ponds; it is hard to mentally make the adjustment to being "average" among your peers and male strength does not actually peak until early 20s, not 18), and finally, agents. For many people, college is a chance to interact with a diverse group of people and learn adult socialization skills such as diplomacy, standing up to pressure (the stakes are higher), etc.
I work as a professional sports writer, and I have seen too many "hot prospects" end up playing in Europe because major league teams don't care about the emotional or social well being of players--they are a commodity. It is hard to realize as a human being that all the money they pay you doesn't make you "great" in the eyes of your employer--they OWN you.
And in most schools, athletic scholarships are funded through alumni donations and ticket revenues, at least in part. Plus merchandise deals, etc.
As a taxpayer, I'd rather help pay for someone's education and have the be a healthier person that pay for it on the other side when they get in trouble with the law or substance abuse.
That's just me.
I respect your point of view.
yellowstoner
New Member
Here's my problem with the whole thing with the LeBron James situation......why should others benefit from this kid's playing ability, the high school for charging more for the games, ESPN for broadcasting a high school basketball game, etc..and LeBron can't even cash in on his own success until he turns pro?? That IMO is wrong.