Epcot closings, man it bites!

prberk

Well-Known Member
I have said before, and I will say here that EPCOT could benefit, like it used to, from TELEVISION. Walt Disney World needs to have live (or live on taper) shows on its networks, including The Disney Channel, that come from the parks. And EPCOT is a prime place to have a show that showcases innovation. The Disney Channel used to do this constantly, thus drumming up excitement and anticipation that went hand-in-hand with new or revised rides and ATTENDANCE.

Many people today do not know what EPCOT is all about, because it has dropped off the media radar. I was asked just this week by a teenager, "What is EPCOT"? This was a kid who in the same conversation had said that he watches the Disney Channel.

EPCOT can stay current in Future World without spending multiple millions, also. It can keep up innoventions and add subtle new things annually to attractions like The Land; and a TV show would help highlight these changes, and along the way advertise the park AND maintain an interest Walt's dream. It has a mystique all its own when given some attention... and once again translates into curiosity and ATTENDANCE!
 

TURKEY

New Member
Originally posted by wizard12
It's reasons like this the attendance is going down. They need to get a few more rides and do something else. It can't compete with other WDW parks.

Oh absolutely. :rolleyes:

The fact that tourism is down because of the US economy, war, and SARS has nothing to do with it and that they aren't nearly as important as shutting down parks early. :rolleyes: :brick: :brick: :brick:
 

pheneix

Well-Known Member
He does have a point. There is a term for this kind of business practice, and it's called "circling the drain."

Basically what happens is that business takes a downturn, so you cut costs faster than revenues fall. Then some customers get ed off at the lower level of service, so revenues fall some more. Then, the truly inept management team cuts costs AGAIN to meet the falling revenues, thus further degrading the reputation of the company in the eyes of the consumer.

It's a very vicious trap, and Disney management is caught in it BIG TIME. Just look at the growing number of posts here about cutbacks*.

* The ones that I DIDN'T start. ;)
 

Becky

Active Member
Originally posted by prberk
I have said before, and I will say here that EPCOT could benefit, like it used to, from TELEVISION. Walt Disney World needs to have live (or live on taper) shows on its networks, including The Disney Channel, that come from the parks. And EPCOT is a prime place to have a show that showcases innovation. The Disney Channel used to do this constantly, thus drumming up excitement and anticipation that went hand-in-hand with new or revised rides and ATTENDANCE.

Many people today do not know what EPCOT is all about, because it has dropped off the media radar. I was asked just this week by a teenager, "What is EPCOT"? This was a kid who in the same conversation had said that he watches the Disney Channel.

EPCOT can stay current in Future World without spending multiple millions, also. It can keep up innoventions and add subtle new things annually to attractions like The Land; and a TV show would help highlight these changes, and along the way advertise the park AND maintain an interest Walt's dream. It has a mystique all its own when given some attention... and once again translates into curiosity and ATTENDANCE!

Expanding on your great ideas I suggest that Michael E use his Sunday night ABC Disney show to showcase Epcot like you suggested. An ocean themed movie could be introduced from the Living Seas, farm/ranch themed movies introduced and commerical breaks from the Land, car chase movies from TT, wilderness themed from the Canadian pavillion, science/science fiction themed from Innoventions etc.

Oh yea Michael, bring back Vault Disney:D
 

TURKEY

New Member
Originally posted by pheneix
He does have a point. There is a term for this kind of business practice, and it's called "circling the drain."

Basically what happens is that business takes a downturn, so you cut costs faster than revenues fall. Then some customers get ed off at the lower level of service, so revenues fall some more. Then, the truly inept management team cuts costs AGAIN to meet the falling revenues, thus further degrading the reputation of the company in the eyes of the consumer.

It's a very vicious trap, and Disney management is caught in it BIG TIME. Just look at the growing number of posts here about cutbacks*.

* The ones that I DIDN'T start. ;)


I think you're right, but to say that attendance is down only because of the low hours is crazy. There are a lot more reasons than that. I think that it may come down to that, but I think that people may choose not to go because of hours, would go when there wasn't a war/terrorism/illness.
 

Sir Hiss527

New Member
That's really stupid 3 hours before the park closes. That really insane. 3 HOURS that's amazing.:lol:

-Sir Hiss527-

"Stop Hissing in my Ear":king:
 

GoofMaul

New Member
Originally posted by turkey leg boy
I think you're right, but to say that attendance is down only because of the low hours is crazy. There are a lot more reasons than that. I think that it may come down to that, but I think that people may choose not to go because of hours, would go when there wasn't a war/terrorism/illness.

I think the war and terrorism has little affect on most people's decision to visit WDW, with exception to international visitors. SARS may play a bigger role, but I still think the biggest factor is the economy. The unemployment rate is up and many people are worried about their jobs. Not really a time to be thinking about an expensive trip, so many people are opting for cheaper trips closer to home.
 

NakedMickey

New Member
This type of reasoning is complete troll logic. There's no good idea in this. If they want to get more people into Epcot they should keep the part that most people came to see open later. I mean doesn't that make sense?
 

TomDisney

Active Member
Originally posted by Becky
Expanding on your great ideas I suggest that Michael E use his Sunday night ABC Disney show to showcase Epcot like you suggested. An ocean themed movie could be introduced from the Living Seas, farm/ranch themed movies introduced and commerical breaks from the Land, car chase movies from TT, wilderness themed from the Canadian pavillion, science/science fiction themed from Innoventions etc.

Only one problem with this...no watches the 4th place ABC Network...might as well advertise on UPN!!!:brick:
 

Blizz

New Member
Original Poster
Originally posted by pheneix
He does have a point. There is a term for this kind of business practice, and it's called "circling the drain."

Basically what happens is that business takes a downturn, so you cut costs faster than revenues fall. Then some customers get ed off at the lower level of service, so revenues fall some more. Then, the truly inept management team cuts costs AGAIN to meet the falling revenues, thus further degrading the reputation of the company in the eyes of the consumer.

It's a very vicious trap, and Disney management is caught in it BIG TIME. Just look at the growing number of posts here about cutbacks*.

* The ones that I DIDN'T start. ;)

Finally someone I can agree with. Disney is going to kill their parks division if they keep doing this.

I also agree DIsney should use their massive media market to plug their parks. I mean Disney Inside Out was a huge hit and aired about the time Disney had a major turn around for the better. And then there is Epcot in the later 80's and how it had a large park attendience because disney pushed it on networks like ABC.
 

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