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Enchanted Plot Holes with Belle

Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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One of the many fun things to do as a nit-picky critic is to point out all the plots holes in a given story. Since Belle has a newish story telling attraction at MK, let's see how well it fits within the overall plot logic of Disney's Beauty and the Beast ;):

- Where did Beast get a second magic mirror? The Enchantress gave him the portable surveillance device seen in the movie, but where did the wall mounted one come from? No one in the movie besides her had magic powers, so how did this one get made? And why give it time travel properties? I assume this is either for Belle to go to 1885 to save Doc Brown or further in the future to kill some Morlocks.

- How come when Maurice first goes into the castle Beast catches him and throws a giant fit, but never notices a classroom sized group of kids marching about, stomping and singing off key? Must have been busy with that bath he was having with Lumiere and the hat rack to get ready for his date...but isn't Lumiere with us?

- How could there be human servents in the castle if the curse is still going on? I guess Belle hired some college interns. This would explain why she isn't ouright stunned to see other humans in the castle.

- Does the attraction follow the original movie or Special Edition storyline? If it's the former, that hallway with the Wardrobe shouldn't be so tidy. Also, Belle should shoot first.

- Wouldn't having people go back in time, even to just visit Belle, have future consequences? Butterfly effect anyone? I'm pretty sure we don't need to see Gaston win the next time we see the story.

And yes, this post may be a little silly, but so is the attraction. Olivanders works because the events shown there are based on the book/movie with little alteration and still make sense given the context presented, unlike Belle which bends over backwards to justify its silly set-up (though I still liked it in previews).
 
Magenta Panther

Magenta Panther

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The title of this thread alone had me roaring with laughter. Well done, sirrah. Well done!

I still think the interactive "show-and-tell" aspects of "Belle" are just plain dumb. It would have been much much better to just have the Wardrobe greet you and guide you into the library, and then have Lumiere, Cogsworth, Mrs. Potts, Chip and the Beast himself give a short version of the BatB story (with the help of some killer special effects). The way it is now, the attraction should have been named "Enchanted Daycare with Belle" or something.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Cmdr_Crimson said:
Another question comes to mind....How the heck did Gaston survive that drop from the castle and still be fine to do meet & greets?
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Well if everything in BatBland took place during the action of the movie that would make sense, but then we have details like the stained glass from the end of the movie in the restaurant and references to post BatB life in the cottage, so there's inconsistencies with that as you say.

I like Fantsayland better when it takes liberties with the stories to make them better for a park enviroment (as it was originally built), but if everything today is built and sold as 100% "cannon" then it opens the doors for more criticism in that area.
 
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All Disney All The Time

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The new Belle attraction (what I call an Enhanced Meet and Greet) is designed for small children. The age demographic that it is targeted at is not going to analyze and parse the experience as it compares/contrasts to the animated movie. Might as well ponder (criticize?) why the Disney animated movie "Sleeping Beauty" doesn't stay true to the original tale which included pregnancy occuring after rape. I refer you to "Sole, Luna, e Talia" written in 1634 by G. Basile.
 
Prototype82

Prototype82

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I don't see it as time travel. "Take me to the day Belle and Beast fell in love" officially sets the stage for the time frame of the entire BatB land. It all takes place while the castle is cursed but Belle and the Beast have become close friends. The Mirror is just awesome, impressive, and full of feels. So I won't question it.
 
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All Disney All The Time

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gsam4ever said:
Didn't you know when you created this post you would have some crazy, I mean devoted Disney fans who would take you seriously. I mean I know I am outraged and will analyze and parse every ride from this day forward. Hurumph to you good sir!!
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A discussion shouldn't take place? Each thread should only have the original post and be done with it? The OP obviously spent some time thinking about the new attraction and the animated movie. Good on him/her. I have spent some time over the years researching the origins of "fairy tales". I find that more interesting than what Honey Boo Boo, the Kardashians, Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and The Real Housewives of Wherever are up to. I'll leave you to it.
 
Prince-1

Prince-1

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All Disney All The Time said:
A discussion shouldn't take place? Each thread should only have the original post and be done with it? The OP obviously spent some time thinking about the new attraction and the animated movie. Good on him/her. I have spent some time over the years researching the origins of "fairy tales". I find that more interesting than what Honey Boo Boo, the Kardashians, Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and The Real Housewives of Wherever are up to. I'll leave you to it.
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We have a winner!!
 
Cosmic Commando

Cosmic Commando

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The magic mirror doesn't take you back to the real time when Belle and Beast fell in love; it's a magical simulation inside the mirror, like a holodeck program. If you've seen any of the new Trek series, the characters in the holodeck programs are programmed to just accept you as part of the story, even if you don't look the part. As a bonus, the lack of actual time travel means you don't have to worry about stepping on a bug in the castle and causing the extinction of the human race in the future.

Do we see the original magic mirror anywhere in the land? I mean, hello! It's a magic mirror! It can reshape itself into a wall-mounted version if it's tired of being freestanding. Maurice is a disorganized inventor; he probably would've lost the mirror under a pile of junk in his workshop if he couldn't hang it on the wall.

When the castle was switching from the gargoyle look to the angel look, the magic decided that Gaston's pancake-like corpse didn't fit in with the new "bright and cheery" look for the castle, so it brought him back to life and dropped him in the village. He's a little softer around the edges now that he had his near-death experience.
 
EmmabaRose

EmmabaRose

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All Disney All The Time said:
A discussion shouldn't take place? Each thread should only have the original post and be done with it? The OP obviously spent some time thinking about the new attraction and the animated movie. Good on him/her. I have spent some time over the years researching the origins of "fairy tales". I find that more interesting than what Honey Boo Boo, the Kardashians, Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and The Real Housewives of Wherever are up to. I'll leave you to it.
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The words sense of humor bypass springs to mind...
 
Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

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Cosmic Commando said:
Do we see the original magic mirror anywhere in the land? I mean, hello! It's a magic mirror! It can reshape itself into a wall-mounted version if it's tired of being freestanding. Maurice is a disorganized inventor; he probably would've lost the mirror under a pile of junk in his workshop if he couldn't hang it on the wall.
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The Magic Mirror is sitting next to the Rose in The West Wing at Be Our Guest Restaurant...Just Throwing it out there...
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Prince-1

Prince-1

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All Disney All The Time said:
Thank you!! I consider myself a talented amateur when it comes to being a but it is good to run into a professional such as yourself. Carry on.
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Thank you for the kind words. I am not actually a professional, I did go to school for becoming a but decided to change during my second year and I got a BJ, Bachelors in Jerkness. Pays more.
 

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