Eisner's fan mail seems as though it is a little light these days. When he is finally gone, what changes would you like to be made for the betterment of Disney?
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Eisner's replacement
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I would love to see someone take over that believes in Walt's dream of a place for families. Roy Disney, I think, would be a great person for the job. I am sure that people disagree with me, but it started as a family business. I think Roy has the convictions to make Disney what it used to be.
Epcot82Guy
Well-Known Member
Creativity
I actually don't care so much that the CEO necessarily have Walt's vision and dream as that they have the sense to listen and appoint people who do. To run a company the size of Disney in 2004 creatively would require skills I don't know if even Walt had. However, to play the CEO/leadership role of being a supervisor and finding that creative talent in people like Steve Jobs, Matt Ouimet, and other Disney and non-Disney execs/talent is the key. For example, with the changes Ouimet has made, put him in charge of attractions & resorts. Put talent where it is key and let it ride. The CEO should, if people are placed correctly, be able to golf and talk on ABC News shows all day without having to really do any work. That is one thing that would allow me to support Iger because he seems to understand the need to put people where they belong and let them hold the reigns.
I actually don't care so much that the CEO necessarily have Walt's vision and dream as that they have the sense to listen and appoint people who do. To run a company the size of Disney in 2004 creatively would require skills I don't know if even Walt had. However, to play the CEO/leadership role of being a supervisor and finding that creative talent in people like Steve Jobs, Matt Ouimet, and other Disney and non-Disney execs/talent is the key. For example, with the changes Ouimet has made, put him in charge of attractions & resorts. Put talent where it is key and let it ride. The CEO should, if people are placed correctly, be able to golf and talk on ABC News shows all day without having to really do any work. That is one thing that would allow me to support Iger because he seems to understand the need to put people where they belong and let them hold the reigns.
yodathefrog
Member
Steve Jobs
I would really like to see it be him. Here's the reasons...
a) Money (why is that always first?)
b) Owns Pixar, right? I'm sorry but their movies have to be the most creative and disney-like (even over Disney) out there.
c) Ties to Apple, right? Apple is the most creative and innovative of all computer companies. Imagine Innovations with an Apple Sponsorship.
I feel that Steve Jobs, with his ties and money, could get Disney back to where Walt left it. With overall effect and impact being the main drive in everything they do. Disney needs this in all aspects of it's corporation. Now I don't know everything about him, but on the surface it looks like something that would be great for Disney.
I would really like to see it be him. Here's the reasons...
a) Money (why is that always first?)
b) Owns Pixar, right? I'm sorry but their movies have to be the most creative and disney-like (even over Disney) out there.
c) Ties to Apple, right? Apple is the most creative and innovative of all computer companies. Imagine Innovations with an Apple Sponsorship.
I feel that Steve Jobs, with his ties and money, could get Disney back to where Walt left it. With overall effect and impact being the main drive in everything they do. Disney needs this in all aspects of it's corporation. Now I don't know everything about him, but on the surface it looks like something that would be great for Disney.
PurpleDragon
Well-Known Member
I started a post about this a while ago but I think Steve Jobs would be a great man to take the reigns of the Disney co. He has done wonders for Apple and Pixar!! He is a man that knows talent when he sees it and seems to nurture it and allow people to have more creative freedom. He lets their creativity grow and flourish so they can think up fresh new ideas that would benifit the company as a whole, not just the upper management which is how Eisners team is doing it right now. He also isn't over agressive about advertising and marketing products, Disney on the other hand is currently too agressive. They are flooding the market with so much Disney parafanalia, that no one is interested or impressed anymore.
ClemsonTigger
Naturally Grumpy
Steve Jobs...hmmmm
Jobs is a greater control freak than Eisner on his worst day. Ego is as big and he will hold a grudge to his grave.
Apple - innovative, superior product, refused to share or use compatible technology so now is on the computer B list.
iPOD - also amazing innovative technology. Again refuses to share platform compatibility information in an attempt to control the whole market. Hasn't learned from Apple mistakes, will be the demise of iPOD.
Pixar - Great track record due to great partnership. Allows ego and personal agenda to bite the hand...greedy beyond belief in unrealistic demands...no one running to fill the partner gap, will be the business demise of Pixar.
Yup, that's who I want at Disney :brick:
Jobs is a greater control freak than Eisner on his worst day. Ego is as big and he will hold a grudge to his grave.
Apple - innovative, superior product, refused to share or use compatible technology so now is on the computer B list.
iPOD - also amazing innovative technology. Again refuses to share platform compatibility information in an attempt to control the whole market. Hasn't learned from Apple mistakes, will be the demise of iPOD.
Pixar - Great track record due to great partnership. Allows ego and personal agenda to bite the hand...greedy beyond belief in unrealistic demands...no one running to fill the partner gap, will be the business demise of Pixar.
Yup, that's who I want at Disney :brick:
Lynx04
New Member
Epcot82Guy said:
I agree with Epcot82guy. Disney being a conglomerate requires more then a person who thinks disney should be for family. Disney now is about more then just animation and theme parks. I think who ever it is, I hope they have worked for a large corporate company such as disney. While many disapprove of Eisner, one think he was that is needed is a man who keeps his eye on the bottom line. There is a very fine line between what is a economically sound decision and letting your creative team have elbow room. I think Eisner was a little to far to the bottom line side and it seems because his main focus was ABC.
Gail Hayden
New Member
Thank you for that post, you saved me a bunch of time.ClemsonTigger said:
Steve Jobs would make Eisner look like a pussycat by comparison. There is NO place in Disney for the huge amount of greed that Jobs would bring.
Gail Hayden
New Member
I think the Disney's are wonderful, but, very poor business people. Remember, before Eisner, they were within inches of a corporate takeover (raid). Walt, as wonderful as he was, almost ran the company into bankruptcy.disgolfer said:
It is, indeed, unfortunate, that money and being nice don't necessarily run hand in hand.
What I'd like to see is probably impossible in today's economic climate. First, I'd like to see them sell ABC. I don't like Walt's name being invoked after things like the Monday Night Football mini-scandal. I don't think Disney should be a company that provides news. They should be an entertainmant company. Second, I'd like to see them regain their status as the best in animation and family movies (and not just a distributer for Pixar). Third, I'd like to see them NOT expand the parks so there's one on every street corner. That's a few of the things anyway.
DisneyFan 2000
Well-Known Member
Jobs may be a control freak but he understands the bottom line; to get money you must spend some. That's all Disney needs right now imo.
yodathefrog
Member
Thanks, I didn't know all those things about Steve Jobs and his greed...ClemsonTigger said:
But, I must take exception to the things I quoted above. Apple is only a "B" lister in the eyes of uninformed people. Ask any musician, graphic designer, writer, artist or animator on what computers they use and prefer...Apple. Also, the iPod, works perfectly fine w/ my Dell computer, and now they are being sold by businesses such as Musicians Friend and HP. Greatest invention in a long time, and if I were Apple I wouldn't wanna give out my info on something that I could make endless money on. Anyone can buy an iPod and use it with any computer, and it holds MP3(PC) and Apple AAC files. He might be greedy, he might be a jerk, but I don't see how those two points help back that fact up. Kind of a sidetrack on the thread...sorry :wave:
I would like to see a younger person in the position. Someone who is still filled with the fire in his/her belly. I would like to see Disney expand it's animation department and also it's live action department. I agree that they don't need a park in every corner of the universe. That is what makes Disney so special. And that is why it is treated as such. I'd like to see some fresh ideas happen. If we could get someone in there that would allow the imagineers to have creative liscense that would be wonderful. I'd also like to see the parks revamped with newer technology, especially epcot. It would be nice to bring in someone that could make deals with Spielberg or Jobs, someone who doesn't already have a reputation as a big wig. I also think that a time limit should be implemented for CEO. That way, there can be a new twist every decade or so. Disney also needs to quit buying other companies for awhile and focus on what they have. When there are too many irons in the fire...
Walt Disney was not a business man, he was a figurehead. Roy on the other hand was brilliant. Somebody like that would do great things for Disney
Walt Disney was not a business man, he was a figurehead. Roy on the other hand was brilliant. Somebody like that would do great things for Disney
Gail Hayden
New Member
News is considered entertainment. As to Monday Night Football, there is more to ABC than football.tomm4004 said:
Gail Hayden
New Member
Eisner also understands the same and has been doing just that. He spends and spends and spends. And, at the same time raises prices WAY higher than inflation.DisneyFan 2000 said:
IMHO, Jobs is not the right person for the job. The last thing we need is another ego manic on a mission.
Gail Hayden
New Member
I feel I am very well informed about computers, Dee, my S/O owns a computer business. They are definitely B list and could have been A list IF Jobs had not been such a SOB and greedy. What you said about writers etc, used to be quite true, but, MS has solved a lot of those issues with their software.yodathefrog said:
Getting service on any Apple product is nearly impossible and Apple is very stingy about allowing people to be authorized. You cannot get parts for them without a mess of paperwork, etc. etc. etc. We have a lot of clients that used to be Apple users and now prefer a PC, in fact, one is a nationally known writer.
Back to the topic. I think we need someone who is aware of the bottom line, but, allows people he hires to make decisions. If you trust them enough to hire them, then let them do their jobs.
ClemsonTigger
Naturally Grumpy
Good points Yoda...I agree that the Apples are superior in many arenas, we use them in our laboratories and in some design groups. But if they are so superior, why does (everyone) use Windows platform. I am talking market share, not performance.
As for the iPods, there are platform compatibility issues that are going to force us to a VHS/Beta type decision...and as the majority of others are banding together for the non iPod platform, who do you think will win?
Back to topic, there are a number of related threads from when Eisner announced his retirement date that may be worth checking out for a similar discussion. My belief is that there is no ONE person that can run Disney. You need a good team of a bean counter and a creative lead. Walt probably would have banckrupted Disneyland if not for Roy keeping him grounded. ME was most effective when he had Frank Wells...and lost his way after Frank passed. I believe we need that partnering pair model for success in this truly unique business of dreams.
PetePan
New Member
tomm4004 said:
I know this is a bit of a thread drift, but I am so sick of hearing about this. It seems that since "boobygate", everyone is way oversensitive about everything. If someone was offended by the clip shown on Monday Night, all they would need to do is turn the channel, not tell everyone how wrong it was and that it shouldn't be allowed on tv. Sorry, had to vent. :hammer:
imagineer99
New Member
yodathefrog said:
I don't want to start an anti-apple war right now, but...
There was a time when Apple computers were the center point of the graphics industry. They were the industry standard.
However, we've progressed to a point where PC's are equally viable in that particular market. Saying you can't do digital media on a PC as well as you can on a mac, is just ludicrous.
If I'm not mistaken, pixar uses their fair share of PC's when creating their films
As for the Eisner successor, it would be hard to pick a viable sucessor. I DEFINITELY think that Roy is absolutley wrong for the position. He's a horrendous business man and just doesn't have the experience to run a company as large as Disney.
>News is considered entertainment.
Not by me it isn't.
>If someone was offended by the clip shown on Monday Night, all they would need to do is turn the channel, not tell everyone how wrong it was and that it shouldn't be allowed on tv.
That's what everyone always says. It's such a cliche. Even those people who tuned in to watch a football game? So people should never complain about anything they disagree with? They should just turn a blind eye and ignore it? Unfortunately, that attitude has led to many tragedies over the course of history.
So if I go to WDW and there's a Desperate Housewives attraction in Fantasyland, I shouldn't complain - I should just ignore it and go to the next attraction? "Daddy, why can't we go on that?"
Not by me it isn't.
>If someone was offended by the clip shown on Monday Night, all they would need to do is turn the channel, not tell everyone how wrong it was and that it shouldn't be allowed on tv.
That's what everyone always says. It's such a cliche. Even those people who tuned in to watch a football game? So people should never complain about anything they disagree with? They should just turn a blind eye and ignore it? Unfortunately, that attitude has led to many tragedies over the course of history.
So if I go to WDW and there's a Desperate Housewives attraction in Fantasyland, I shouldn't complain - I should just ignore it and go to the next attraction? "Daddy, why can't we go on that?"