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NowInc
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I dont really understand what you are asking...tho you seem to be implying that Eisner is going to resign???
As a lot of people here know...I think Eisner is one of the BEST things to happen to Disney..he has a buisness know-how that is second to none.
The "rediculous" Tokyo Disneyland has been open for years, and is NOT funded by Disney. So I dont understand why you even made that comment....
Disney is not about to get bought out...no matter what "rumors" you may of heard..there is no intrest from any company showing they want to take it over...
Tarzan266
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I agree with d dude. Although Eisner has done a lot of great things for the Disney Company and was the driving force behind it's rebirth, there will still NEVER be anyone like Walt Disney. He was a great innovator and creator, and that is where Eisner's talents are few. Eisner may be a great businessman, but Walt Disney is a creative genius.
there will never be anyone like walt disney but i think eisner has been both a great business leader and creative person as well. for most of his tenure at disney he has had lots of input on many creative projects in animation,feature films and theme parks.before coming to disney his main job at paramount was in a creative capacity that helped start shows like happy days and lavern and shirly
spagmoid
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I think Eisner has done nothing creative in his life. Disney has survived with him in charge, but has been gradually getting more and more corporate, and less and less creative. Now it's starting to really suck as Eisner realizes that Disney can lose a lot of quality before people stop coming. The sooner they get rid of him the better. It might not even be so bad if Disney got bought...
The most important thing Disney has lost was respect for their workers.
The most important thing Disney has lost was respect for their workers.
it is true eisner has been in a slump but he is by far the best ceo for disney and the thought of disney bieng bought out makes me shudder.he has done wonderful things for the company.i know i keep on going back to 1984 but he saved the compnay from being scrapped for parts because disney was well a looser since walt died till he came-card walker didnt have the ability to keep up with the youth trends and thus disney was considered LAME but eisner came and made disney a COOL company that related to all-toddlers,kids,teens,young adults and seniors.he has grown the stock from 5 dollars a share in 84 to in its highest point almost 50 dollars a share.it did hit a slump but is again rising.he has grown every aspect of the disney company by leaps and bounds.yes he has made some mistakes-hey hes human even the best leaders do.the problem with those who want disney sold is that while disney execs will be battling with the new owners the other companies will be scooping up market share.
disney in general is trying to rectify their mistakes and u can see many positive changes all over the company and the price of stock is rising daily-my challenge is for anyone to find any perfect leader of any company -one who has never made any mistakes or bad calls-i doubt u will find one
disney in general is trying to rectify their mistakes and u can see many positive changes all over the company and the price of stock is rising daily-my challenge is for anyone to find any perfect leader of any company -one who has never made any mistakes or bad calls-i doubt u will find one
spagmoid
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I used to think he was a good money man at least, until I read a post on MousePlanet about the real reason Disney recovered. Too bad I don't remember it now.
But think of this. How hard could it be to make the company that owns Disneyland and WDW profitable? Turning around another company could take talent, but WDW is a giant ball of cash. It must have taken some really horrible businessmen to make _Disney_ lose money.
Card must have really sucked with finances. But Epcot was built under him, so he must have had something going for him.
But think of this. How hard could it be to make the company that owns Disneyland and WDW profitable? Turning around another company could take talent, but WDW is a giant ball of cash. It must have taken some really horrible businessmen to make _Disney_ lose money.
Card must have really sucked with finances. But Epcot was built under him, so he must have had something going for him.
card walker was ok with me-his problem was his head was back in the 50s and eraly 60s when family and wholesome things were ok with teens and kids but failed to see when the late 60s and up to the early eighties wholesome was not a seller anymore-boys had long hair wore concert t-shirts thougt pot was and cigs were cool and the anti-establishment era was isn and disney for a long time was establishement.this is why disney failed under him-yes he did give us epcot but this plan was in place before walt died-he made it happen but he didnt come up with epcot.
people think at 50 bucks a ticket disney world must be making money hand over foot but kep in mind the amoun tof money it takes to run the resort-electric bill alone is more than a city.keep this in mind disney has had its slump-but is rising again and it will be eisner it brings it back-im saving this post this way when it happens ill post it again.think about this-if theres no eisner who will be there-who do u trust running the company?-i dont think there is anyone i want there-maybe onlyt a couple of disney execs but there not ready
people think at 50 bucks a ticket disney world must be making money hand over foot but kep in mind the amoun tof money it takes to run the resort-electric bill alone is more than a city.keep this in mind disney has had its slump-but is rising again and it will be eisner it brings it back-im saving this post this way when it happens ill post it again.think about this-if theres no eisner who will be there-who do u trust running the company?-i dont think there is anyone i want there-maybe onlyt a couple of disney execs but there not ready
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Just my opinion
I dont know much about the gentlemans buisness accumen but I can see he has the ability to provoke debate. leaving personalitys behind I find it strange that a company that has so many avid followers that generate such emotion can find itself in such a position. The parks are special but what makes them that way ? and why do people from all walks of life care so much. Surely even an average buisness man would achieve some success with such a sound base.
I feel it has been the attention to detail and originality of presentation that stops WDW being just a theme park, this simple premise appears to have been lost to the present bean counters.
Sep 11 has been a convenient excuse for many employers to hide in the shadows and prune operations at a time of global slowdown. It is unfortunate that even Disney is not imune to making such cynical actions to cover some poorly timed and ill advised buisness ventures.
Im all for companys making profit but they rely on the goodwill of there customers and the loyalty of the staff to make it a success. The CEO should try and remember this.
I dont know much about the gentlemans buisness accumen but I can see he has the ability to provoke debate. leaving personalitys behind I find it strange that a company that has so many avid followers that generate such emotion can find itself in such a position. The parks are special but what makes them that way ? and why do people from all walks of life care so much. Surely even an average buisness man would achieve some success with such a sound base.
I feel it has been the attention to detail and originality of presentation that stops WDW being just a theme park, this simple premise appears to have been lost to the present bean counters.
Sep 11 has been a convenient excuse for many employers to hide in the shadows and prune operations at a time of global slowdown. It is unfortunate that even Disney is not imune to making such cynical actions to cover some poorly timed and ill advised buisness ventures.
Im all for companys making profit but they rely on the goodwill of there customers and the loyalty of the staff to make it a success. The CEO should try and remember this.
Eisner is not a good buisness man. Frank Wells was a Buisness Genious. Frank Wells was the one that brought in the Likes of Katzenberg and facilitated Disney's rebirth. Micheal Eisner was nothing but flash. He had enough recognition in the industry to bring in a few stars and root through the halls of the Betty Ford Clinic.
Not to say that Mike is a bad buisnessman, (there are plenty others that will say that)but he isn't everything his own hype says he is.
Not to say that Mike is a bad buisnessman, (there are plenty others that will say that)but he isn't everything his own hype says he is.
Tramp
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Eisner was before a Congressional Committee today trying to get some resolution to the "napster type" problems of video pirating...
..before I would write Eisner off as a slacker, i seem to recall that the Disney Company was headed for the toilets back in the early 80s and under Eisner's leadership, for good or bad, the Company produced some of the best films in Disney history, including The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, and Pocahontas...and wasn't the TV hit, Golden Girls, a Disney production....and there were huge box office hits like 3 men and a baby, Sister Act, and one of my favorites, Pretty Woman...and a few more too...and didn't the growth in theme parks explode under his leadership, not just in Florida but also in Paris and Japan....and wasn't it under Eisner that Disney acquired the NHL team, MightyDucks.....and let's not forget the acquisition of ABC, Capital Cities...
look...i don't care for the guy personally, but let's be balanced with our criticism....maybe others were more instrumental than Eisner in the Disney Company's success....but if the Company fell flat on it's face today, it would be Eisner you'd hang from the nearest tree.
..before I would write Eisner off as a slacker, i seem to recall that the Disney Company was headed for the toilets back in the early 80s and under Eisner's leadership, for good or bad, the Company produced some of the best films in Disney history, including The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, and Pocahontas...and wasn't the TV hit, Golden Girls, a Disney production....and there were huge box office hits like 3 men and a baby, Sister Act, and one of my favorites, Pretty Woman...and a few more too...and didn't the growth in theme parks explode under his leadership, not just in Florida but also in Paris and Japan....and wasn't it under Eisner that Disney acquired the NHL team, MightyDucks.....and let's not forget the acquisition of ABC, Capital Cities...
look...i don't care for the guy personally, but let's be balanced with our criticism....maybe others were more instrumental than Eisner in the Disney Company's success....but if the Company fell flat on it's face today, it would be Eisner you'd hang from the nearest tree.
I'm hard pressed to consider ABC/Cap Cities a good move any more, much as I wanted to think it was at the time. and if the Mighty Ducks is such a good move then why is Iger saying they'd be fine with dumping them?
Little mermaid was in production before Eisner came on board it was Katzenberg that pushed it through while Eisner Diddled around with the likes of the Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company.
Yes lots and lots of great things happened While Eisner was "In Charge" And every single one of those things was either started before he got there or happened when Wells was there with him. Eisner, on his own hasn't done much of anything exciting.
Thus its quite obvious that Wells had some considerable positive influences.
Little mermaid was in production before Eisner came on board it was Katzenberg that pushed it through while Eisner Diddled around with the likes of the Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company.
Yes lots and lots of great things happened While Eisner was "In Charge" And every single one of those things was either started before he got there or happened when Wells was there with him. Eisner, on his own hasn't done much of anything exciting.
Thus its quite obvious that Wells had some considerable positive influences.
Tramp
New Member
I'm not gonna argue with ya Mr. YOOHOO....but what you claim can be said about ANY major company...CEO's don't normally sit in think tanks or have their hands on every project...the guy at the top, whether YOU like it or not, gets the credit or the blame for what happens under his watch...period...that's all I'm trying to say...you can give credit to whoever you want for making it happen UNDER Eisner but it's Eisner who has to account to the Stockholders at the end of the day.
...you can speculate all day about what might have been if Eisner wasn't there...but ya can't change history...we only know what happened, not what could've happened. And history will show that the Disney Company did well under Eisner's watch whether you like him or not. I'm not prepared to pick apart every acquisition that was made like some monday morning quarterback....anyone can criticize business decisions having the benefit of experience, time and outcome.
...so, go ahead...you can have the last word...
...you can speculate all day about what might have been if Eisner wasn't there...but ya can't change history...we only know what happened, not what could've happened. And history will show that the Disney Company did well under Eisner's watch whether you like him or not. I'm not prepared to pick apart every acquisition that was made like some monday morning quarterback....anyone can criticize business decisions having the benefit of experience, time and outcome.
...so, go ahead...you can have the last word...
i dont care what anyone thinks eisner has done a hell of a job for disney.he has made mistakes but everyone does-show me one company where the ceo is perfect and has never ed someone off somewhere.to say eisner has done nothing for disney is not correct-i agree frank wells was a great leader for disney but if frank was alive right now hed be the first to say how much eisner has done for the company.i know this forum is 50/50 on eisner im on eisners side.
let me put it this way for those who think eisner is so bad for disney and has done so little-what jobs do they hold?are they a ceo of an company?it is real easy to say how bad someone is doing form their pc but if they were so smart and could run a company any better we wouldnt be talking about eisner wed be talking about them running disney-just my opinion
let me put it this way for those who think eisner is so bad for disney and has done so little-what jobs do they hold?are they a ceo of an company?it is real easy to say how bad someone is doing form their pc but if they were so smart and could run a company any better we wouldnt be talking about eisner wed be talking about them running disney-just my opinion