News Early Theme Park Entry and Extended Evening Hours coming for resort guests

Ricky Spanish

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We were night EMH people as well. I'm on vacation to sleep in. This is a huge blow.
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jeanericuser001

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What exactly is the hotel guests bonus? No bands (we loved them!), No DME, no luggage magically appearing in my room, and now limited magic hours.
Depends on the hotel and when you stay at hotel. The average guest at most gets that 30 minutes early access as well as the ability to be at the park early while the average guests have to wait till the parking lot opens. Hotel guests are more likely to get park reservations than non hotel guests. In addition some premium hotel guests get to the parks a lot sooner than non premium hotels so they can be at their favorite park in less than 10 minutes while everyone else will have a longer bus ride depending on where you are going. If you go during a less busy time you may only get that 30 minutes but during the busier times the parks seem to offer extra magic time to guests as they know they need to get as much people in as possible as the off season may see a lot less people.
 

wedenterprises

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If you usually/always stay on-site, then there really is no gain here. I'm not going to say it's a big loss... EMH had become something to avoid rather than enjoy over the past 5 years or so (though WDW could have fixed this if they so desired).

If you're an off-site person or local, then this is a significant loss as it pertains to rope-dropping. The benefit of this new approach is that you have a shot at lower waits for a headliner attraction (FoP, SWGE, MMRR, Slinky, Mine Train, upcoming EPCOT attractions) by rope-dropping. Those headliners will now be an unavoidable long wait for all locals/off-site guests, fastpass notwithstanding.
I imagine the parks will open 30min early for everyone but only resort guests will be able to get on the rides?

I suppose it is nice that we don't have to avoid the EMH parks anymore.
 

Indy_UK

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hmmm. This is an odd one. Not sure if i agree with it or not.

Disneyland Paris does something similar where resort guests can enter the park any day earlier than day guests. I think for WDW, I get it too as it doesn't mean a single park is slammed on a particular day and spreads the crowds out. However, i think it should be an hour, not 30 minutes. Some rides take that time to walk to
 

UNCgolf

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I imagine the parks will open 30min early for everyone but only resort guests will be able to get on the rides?

I suppose it is nice that we don't have to avoid the EMH parks anymore.

Yeah, but with 30 minutes being such a short window, those non-resort guests will still be able to get in line for major rides because by the time they reach the entrance those 30 minutes will likely be up unless they were one of the very first people inside the park.
 

doctornick

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It's worthless for me too for the same reason. And I completely agree that not everyone with small children is up that early.

Hmmm... I'd say that having smaller children causes us to get up earlier. My youngest is normal up at 7-7:30 AM everyday anyway. If I didn't have kids, I'd sleep in all the time.

Now, granted that having younger children makes "getting ready" time longer in the morning. But I've never had a problem with the kids not getting up while on vacation at WDW. Obviously everyone's experience varies though.

I think the bigger issue with kids and early mornings isn't the "being up early" but the "getting ready and fed". That's one of the reasons I loved pre-park opening buffets because they were easy to do with kids and gave a chance to see characters in a much more efficient fashion while still being ready for rope dropping rides.
 

doctornick

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I would understand some people liking it better if it was an hour early at all four parks. Would still be worthless to me, but I could see the benefit for some. 30 minutes is such a small window (as I've said above) I just don't think it's going to be very beneficial to anyone.

I dunno. Every park every day seems like it has value for those who will utilize it to its fullest. Yes, doing an hour would be substantially more beneficial though.

I mean, at the very least, unlike previous 1 hour EMH in the morning, guests utilizing will be spread to all of the parks. so any individual one will not be crowded at all. If you could do 2 high demand rides early without much/any wait and do that every day, it would add up. It depends on if this perk gets you on two rides versus one in that time (makes sense to do a shorter ride like a coaster first).
 

Wendy Pleakley

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Evening magic hours were already a mixed bag. They are decent at MK where there are enough attractions that I could find a few with short wait times.

At Epcot the headliners were still in the 45 minute range, so one could do a couple of extra rides but it's not like there wasn't more than enough time during the day to do everything anyway. I enjoyed doing things like Nemo and Spaceship Earth with minimal wait.

This basically provides a superior rope drop experience. Maybe it will be the case that you can show up at Animal Kingdom one minute after opening and the wait for Flight of Passage won't already be 300 minutes. One could probably fit in one ride on Everest or Dinosaur and still get into a relatively short line before the non-resort guests enter.

Hard to really evaluate this without seeing it in action, but my initial reaction is a decisive "meh?".

I wish it were an hour either way. 30 minutes goes by in the blink of an eye at a theme park, especially if you're not through the gates right at opening, and have to spend half the time just walking to your destination.
 
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Hcalvert

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Pre-COVID when Disney had early EMH, not all the lands/rides were open for them including some of the major headliners. It wouldn't surprise me if they do the same thing with this 30 minute EMH snafu---roping off areas and making them unavailable to not only ride but queue up as well. 😒
 

UNCgolf

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I dunno. Every park every day seems like it has value for those who will utilize it to its fullest. Yes, doing an hour would be substantially more beneficial though.

I mean, at the very least, unlike previous 1 hour EMH in the morning, guests utilizing will be spread to all of the parks. so any individual one will not be crowded at all. If you could do 2 high demand rides early without much/any wait and do that every day, it would add up. It depends on if this perk gets you on two rides versus one in that time (makes sense to do a shorter ride like a coaster first).

My reason for thinking the 30 minutes isn't that beneficial is that it will be relatively difficult to even get there in that 30 minute window. Disney buses aren't the most reliable way to get somewhere at a specific time, and then you will also have to wait in line to actually get inside the park.

I suppose you can just be ready to go an hour+ in advance, but that just forces you to get up even early and also would require the buses to actually be running that early.

It's not like everyone can just magically get there and be inside the park right when the 30 minute window begins.
 

IHeartArt

Active Member
If you usually/always stay on-site, then there really is no gain here. I'm not going to say it's a big loss... EMH had become something to avoid rather than enjoy over the past 5 years or so (though WDW could have fixed this if they so desired).

If you're an off-site person or local, then this is a significant loss as it pertains to rope-dropping. The benefit of this new approach is that you have a shot at lower waits for a headliner attraction (FoP, SWGE, MMRR, Slinky, Mine Train, upcoming EPCOT attractions) by rope-dropping. Those headliners will now be an unavoidable long wait for all locals/off-site guests, fastpass notwithstanding.
So are you saying that if you're an off-site person and you ropedrop, you're going to have a lower wait, or that that advantage is gone?
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
I would understand some people liking it better if it was an hour early at all four parks. Would still be worthless to me, but I could see the benefit for some. 30 minutes is such a small window (as I've said above) I just don't think it's going to be very beneficial to anyone.

If you've been doing this for a while, you knew that the early morning attendance for whichever park had early morning access would have the predominance of the onsite guests and if you wanted a better experience you would avoid it. With all parks having early 30 for onsite guests, we still have park reservations for those more crowded days. It should skew attendance to those parks where Disney Death Marchers are mobbing the buzz attractions (Slinky, Smugglers, FOP, or anything MK).
 

matt9112

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So remove a perk that costs WDW money via staffing to replace with perk that allows you to use staff that will in all reality largely be in place already...

Cash cash rules everything around me.
 

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