Dopey Steals Snow White's Arm

Phonedave

Phonedave

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Goofyernmost said:
In the early years the resort was much smaller. There were way fewer things to break and their are only so many hours in a day. They were able to 101 those because there were fewer people going there and the entire maintenance crew was probably just a few feet away. You see, what we have here is not that maintenance is not as dedicated but that there is a curse of size as well as a benefit to it. You can only have so many people on a job at any one time before they are stepping on each other. It might be an idealistic thing to wish it was like Disney was in 1955, but reality is a cruel mistress. This is a fantasy world that lives right in the middle of the real world.
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Maintenance is scaleable. If I have 10 attractions and need 5 full time people to perform maintenance on them, I can go to 15 attractions with 8 people (or in my world, 7.5 resources) and have the same level of maintenance (provided all other things are equal). It is not all 8 people working on the same attraction at the same time, you spread them out.

In fact, with more attractions, even with larger attendees, the impact of taking down an attraction during operating hours in order to repair something that broke, is a LESSER impact to operations. (you are removing a smaller percentage of operational capacity).
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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celluloid said:
Dude. You started with it tells us nothing, and now you elaborate an entire projection of what you think the issue might be.

Give it a rest.

No one is asking for it to be like 1955(they had gas leaks and all kinds of issues then)

What would be nice is if it was lanything like 1995-2009. We don't need to go back that far for good management and show.
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Why do I need to give it a rest? Do I not have the right to express what I feel about the subject? Could I be wrong, yes, unfortunately Disney doesn't call me and share their current business practices. But what I do know is how mechanical things work and this obsession with every break down that anyone reports as pointing to the demise of Disney even trying to keep up with things just gets nerve grinding. If you know mechanical things and how they work and what little things can cause them to fail in spite of proper maintenance, common sense would tell everyone that any equipment that has to work in the elements at least 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year will at some point, on its own, with no ones help wear and break. So as long as people continue to insist that the only reason these things happen is because someone was negligent is not a fact. I went back to 1955 to point out that things broke down then and they still do.

Also I would bet the if you stood in the heat in one of those infamous lines and were sent away because one single robot had a problem that really didn't affect the show all that much you might think that shutting it down immediately would ruin a big portion of your day. More so than a lost arm on a robot would. So my point is now and has always been that if you are on an airplane and they don't hold a flight because a single part was malfunctioning then you would have a real reason to be accusing, this is a stationary robot (actually a statue) on a rotating floorboard that had a temporary problem, However, because no lives are at risk, they continued to allow people to enjoy the rest of the attraction and have a chuckle at the end of it. That's why it's a big deal to me that people not assume the worst just because of some unrealistic, maybe slightly fabricated business practice of something that happened at a different time and culture.

Even if you are correct, Disney has done tons more things that are likely and have turned people off (myself included) and pushed them to no longer go there.
 
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celluloid

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Goofyernmost said:
Why do I need to give it a rest? Do I not have the right to express what I feel about the subject? Could I be wrong, yes, unfortunately Disney doesn't call me and share their current business practices. But what I do know is how mechanical things work and this obsession with every break down that anyone reports as pointing to the demise of Disney even trying to keep up with things just gets nerve grinding. If you know mechanical things and how they work and what little things can cause them to fail in spite proper maintenance, common sense would tell everyone that any equipment that has to work in the elements at least 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year will at some point, on its own, with no ones help wear and break. So as long as people continue to insist that the only reason these things happen is because someone was negligent is not a fact. I went back to 1955 to point out that things broke down then and they still do.

Also I would bet the if you stood in the heat in one of those infamous lines and were sent away because one single robot had a problem that really didn't affect the show all that much you might think that shutting it down immediately would ruin a big portion of your day. More so than a lost arm on a robot would. So my point is now and has always been that if you are on an airplane and they don't hold a flight because a single part was malfunctioning then you would have a real reason to be accusing, this is a stationary robot (actually a statue) on a rotating floorboard that had a temporary problem, However, because no lives are at risk, they continued to allow people to enjoy the rest of the attraction and have a chuckle at the end of it. That's why it's a big deal to me that people not assume the worst just because of some unrealistic, maybe slightly fabricated business practice of something that happened at a different time and culture.

Even if you are correct, Disney has done tons more things that are likely and have turned people off (myself included) and pushed them to no longer go there.
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Because first you said that what I said the frequency of things breaking increasing tells us nothing.

Then when I corrected you with facts you wrote an essay on what it tells us.

You were told that maintenance is scalable. And are still going.

Don't give it a rest. Keep going.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Goofyernmost said:
Ok, here we go again. A piece of machinery breaks down and all of a sudden the sky is falling. When on a ride, we experience a breakdown with an animatronic character we do not know if it has been that way for days or just happened before we got their. Instead of jumping to conclusions that Disney no longer cares, just report what you saw to a CM. I don't think they would run an attraction for very long for such a simple fix, but sometimes there just are no people standing a few feet away that can repair it. If they were waiting for someone that has the skill to fix it they have two choices. The first one is to stop the show when 99.999% of the attraction is working fine and and wait for the fix to occur which means it is completely shut down and you don't see any of it and all the time you spent standing in line is lost and you have to start over. Or number two, do you let it go on until help arrives which means you get to enjoy all but 00.001% of the show until they arrive. What choice would you make if you had to make that choice with a line of people waiting to go on?
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So I guess the canons in Rise of the Resistance just happen to be broken every time someone has filmed the ride in the past year?
 
Ayla

Ayla

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Goofyernmost said:
It tells you almost nothing! All it tells you is that something broke. In order to foresee what might break at any random time would require a clairvoyant or rebuilding every animatronic every night. Any one that thinks that nothing should ever breakdown has unrealistic expectations.

I have been going to WDW for 40 years and so far the only things I have ever seen is a chicken on Tom Sawyer Island that move weird and the daughters hand fell off on CoP, I went back a couple hours later and it was fixed in CoP. I didn't check the chicken because frankly I simply didn't care if it was fixed or not, It's all a damn fantasy anyway,
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Your last trip was when? 2015?
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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danlb_2000 said:
So I guess the canons in Rise of the Resistance just happen to be broken every time someone has filmed the ride in the past year?
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Are you sure that they just have happened to ignore that problem that may be an engineering problem that doesn't yet have a fix or that they should 101 that attraction because some minor part of the huge attraction isn't working. Or maybe they should shut it down to anyone that has been on it before and know that they did work at one time and only let someone that never rode it go on now? I'd be in favor of that it would cut down the line.
 
mf1972

mf1972

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i’m sure they can get a replacement part at a 2nd hand store
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Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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Ayla said:
You haven't been in almost 5 years and think you are the authority on current WDW maintenance? 😂
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This complaint has been circulating for years now. It's not new. It is mostly just random people that experienced something less then desirable and are convinced that it is a common occurrence just because it happened when they were there. Unless you are there everyday and have been able to document each problem and how long it has been that way, then you are also not an authority. You haven't identified yourself as a part of the WDW maintenance group so I have to assume you do not know anymore about it then I do. If you are, then I would be interested in the proof that you are there watching what happens everyday and, beyond that, knows the reason why they haven't repaired things in a satisfactual manner.
 

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