Does it bother anyone else that Avatar isn't a Disney movie?

Walt Disney1955

Walt Disney1955

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I think the concept is brilliant and I have little doubt that it will be immersive. However, is anyone else at least a bit bothered that it isn't a Disney creation? At least with this new Fantasyland expansion you know it is all about Disney movies. You can say that Walt created Snow White and you can say that for that reason alone things like Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast followed. But they are all Disney movies. Avatar isn't.

Would it have been just as good - if not better - to create an entire land devoted to Pirates of the Caribbean? Maybe not in Animal Kingdom, but in Hollywood Studios? I've often wondered why Disney doesn't use the popularity of these films more. This is actually a very popular movie and Disney created it. To me, that matters.

I mean, can you imagine "Pirates Land" and how immersive that will be? And you would at least know it is a Disney movie.
 
Larry Mondello

Larry Mondello

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Mr. CPA

Mr. CPA

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When they first announced "Avatar Land", the fact that Avatar isn't even a Disney movie is the first thing I thought. It does bother me. It seems out of character for a Disney park.
 
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CountryBearFan

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Big Phil said:
I think the concept is brilliant and I have little doubt that it will be immersive. However, is anyone else at least a bit bothered that it isn't a Disney creation? At least with this new Fantasyland expansion you know it is all about Disney movies. You can say that Walt created Snow White and you can say that for that reason alone things like Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast followed. But they are all Disney movies. Avatar isn't.

Would it have been just as good - if not better - to create an entire land devoted to Pirates of the Caribbean? Maybe not in Animal Kingdom, but in Hollywood Studios? I've often wondered why Disney doesn't use the popularity of these films more. This is actually a very popular movie and Disney created it. To me, that matters.

I mean, can you imagine "Pirates Land" and how immersive that will be? And you would at least know it is a Disney movie.
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So, in other words, you're also bothered by the fact that Star Wars and Indiana Jones aren't Disney films either. :hammer:
 
real mad hatter

real mad hatter

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50/50.

Well Harry Potter has made zillions for US. And Avatar will do the same for WDW.I know where your coming from but as other peope have said,neither was Star Wars or Indianna.
 
BringMeTheHoriz

BringMeTheHoriz

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Not a Disney creation but it fits perfectly with the theme of the park (environmental preservation).

Aside from Pirates, the Pixar movies, and maybe Narnia, Disney has not created anything recently that is loved and adored enough to base a whole new expansion on. While I would love to see an actual Pirates land and a full blown Pixar world, they wouldn't fit in at AK. Narnia could have possibly fit, but not as good as Avatar will. It will all work out, I promise
 
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ajb_tic_tac

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BringMeTheHoriz said:
Not a Disney creation but it fits perfectly with the theme of the park (environmental preservation).

Aside from Pirates, the Pixar movies, and maybe Narnia, Disney has not created anything recently that is loved and adored enough to base a whole new expansion on. While I would love to see an actual Pirates land and a full blown Pixar world, they wouldn't fit in at AK. Narnia could have possibly fit, but not as good as Avatar will. It will all work out, I promise
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Does it fit perfectly though? I always figured Animal Kingdom would be Earth based and about animals. I think visiting other planets and aliens stretches what i thought the theme was.

I hope though Disney is really creative and gives us a no holds barred, imaginative, impressive and immersive new experience.
 
BalooChicago

BalooChicago

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Avatar ride? Ok, in keeping with Star Wars/Indy I guess, though I have zero interest in ever seeing Avatar, and don't think it approaches Star Wars or Indy in terms of popularity.

Avatar land? Makes absolutely no sense to me. I don't see it being nearly the draw that something like Potter could be.

IF I go to AK on my trips it's safari, maybe Everest, and out. Avatar won't change that for me.
 
ABigBrassBand

ABigBrassBand

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Disney probably wanted to jump on the bandwagon [before it was too late] of a franchise that they thought would grow bigger. Who knows what will happen now?
 
SeaBase86

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How can we even predict that Avatar is a one hit wonder? Maybe 9 years down the line (I say 9 because that's when Indy was introduced to the Studios, 8 after the release of Raiders) Avatar will be considered a classic. I mean say what you want about the story but the film was a technical achievement in filmmaking. This stuff hadn't bee done before. Films that were considered technical achievements include Star Wars, 2001, and the list goes on and what are they considered now? Classic. Star Wars' screenplay was no different than anything that has not been told since ancient greek times, so I really don't see the problem with Avatar's.

All I'm saying is, trust Disney and Cameron. Give them a chance. James has proven when he works with theme parks he can get the job done (Terminator 3-D). Time will tell.


And Avatar does fit with the theme when you think about it. Animal Kingdom is about creatures that are real, imaginary, and extinct. The Avatar creatures are imaginary. They are all about conservation, which is also a major theme in Animal Kingdom.
 
ABigBrassBand

ABigBrassBand

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SeaBase86 said:
How can we even predict that Avatar is a one hit wonder? Maybe 9 years down the line (I say 9 because that's when Indy was introduced to the Studios, 8 after the release of Raiders) Avatar will be considered a classic. I mean say what you want about the story but the film was a technical achievement in filmmaking. This stuff hadn't bee done before. Films that were considered technical achievements include Star Wars, 2001, and the list goes on and what are they considered now? Classic. Star Wars' screenplay was no different than anything that has not been told since ancient greek times, so I really don't see the problem with Avatar's.

All I'm saying is, trust Disney and Cameron. Give them a chance. James has proven when he works with theme parks he can get the job done (Terminator 3-D). Time will tell.


And Avatar does fit with the theme when you think about it. Animal Kingdom is about creatures that are real, imaginary, and extinct. The Avatar creatures are imaginary. They are all about conservation, which is also a major theme in Animal Kingdom.
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Well, that was what I was saying: we don't know if Avatar will be a one-hit wonder. The film was a technological achievement, but I really didn't enjoy it as anything but a very well-done experience rather than a film. I'm sure that Disney has huge hopes for this if they're constructing this project, so for now I'll trust them, but still maintain my feelings abou the entire franchise.
 
BringMeTheHoriz

BringMeTheHoriz

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WDWGoof07 said:
I'm not bothered that Avatar isn't Disney. What bothers me is that the movie, which, frankly, is terrible, does not lend itself well to a theme park land. It's got a fluorescent forest, but what is there to do when I arrive there? Nothing in Avatar really suggested anything uniquely worthwhile to do in such an environment as far as big-ticket rides go that Disney couldn't have done without the license to use the movie, and the lack of compelling characters gives them even less to build off of.
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Sure, build all the big rides you want. But Disney is looking for continuity here, some common thread to link new attractions to each other.
 
GoofyFan1

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I say let them have Avatarland it will free up all the otherDAK rides. I have no interest in it.
If Disney wanted to continue their pro-conservation message, there are plenty of Disney opportunities (Pocahantas, Wall-e,etc) to work with.
 
C.FERNIE

C.FERNIE

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i bought avatar like 3 months ago and it is still in its wrapper, really does not interest me but wanted to see what all the fuss was about, still not sure how avatar land will go down lol :wave:
 
Mr Wizard

Mr Wizard

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Yep it bothers me that it isn't Disney. And it bothers me more that it is a non-memorable movie that has no characters that stick in your mind and relied mostly on special effects to claim it's alleged greatness. It is my narrow minded opinion that by the time Disney gets anything much designed and built the empty shell known as Avatar will be mostly forgotten.
 
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Big Phil said:
I think the concept is brilliant and I have little doubt that it will be immersive. However, is anyone else at least a bit bothered that it isn't a Disney creation? At least with this new Fantasyland expansion you know it is all about Disney movies. You can say that Walt created Snow White and you can say that for that reason alone things like Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast followed. But they are all Disney movies. Avatar isn't.

Would it have been just as good - if not better - to create an entire land devoted to Pirates of the Caribbean? Maybe not in Animal Kingdom, but in Hollywood Studios? I've often wondered why Disney doesn't use the popularity of these films more. This is actually a very popular movie and Disney created it. To me, that matters.

I mean, can you imagine "Pirates Land" and how immersive that will be? And you would at least know it is a Disney movie.
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Yes and no. I would prefer Disney properties be folded into the parks, but it doesn't seem like anything recently created by Disney would generate the interest that Avatar would (this coming from someone who still hasn't seen the whole movie).

The decision itself seems consistent because on a much smaller scale Disney has dumped traditional attractions in favor of more popular characters/themes- Winnie the Pooh- that move merchandise.

I hadn't visited in the better part of a decade and was surprised that almost every ride dumps you into a gift shop afterwards.
 

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