Do people really dislike T2-3D?

[AswaySuller]

I genuinely believe this is one of the best things in the park.
I love it so much, it's so immersive, it's a fantastic piece of film.
The live action and 3D work so well together and there are some really wonderful and subtle effects.

I love the way the other screens rise up and you are almost surrounded by the film towards the end.

I almost want to stand up applaud when ever it finishes.
Yet all I hear is negative things about it on here, I would be devastated if this attraction were to go next.

Am I on my own?

 

[Timekeeper]

I genuinely believe this is one of the best things in the park. I love it so much, it's so immersive, it's a fantastic piece of film.
...

Am I on my own?

No, you're not alone. I agree with you. After all, it is from the genius of James Cameron, a creative artist that even Disney is now tapping into. The quality of his work seems to be accepted on a universal (no pun intended :lookaroun) basis. The live, interactive action and actors "transporting" in and out of the film is simply genius. It's nothing shy of an illusion that David Copperfield might have dreamed up.

It's (IMO) the best 3D movie-based attraction out there ...when it's fully operational.

Unfortunately, it's my understanding that various accidents and injuries have raised some safety concerns and, in turn, reduced the quality of the current presentation. Various elements, such as the live on-stage gun fire, has apparently been removed (please correct me if I'm wrong). Of course, if guests don't have the original presentation as a reference to compare it to, it's still a pretty impressive attraction. But when edits to a presentation begin to diminish the intended performance, that's usually a red flag for something that's now on the endangered species list.

Also, although not likely a determinative factor alone, it probably doesn't help that the modern climate surrounding the real life actors starring in a theme park attraction is more or less negative. Sure, we know that's the "Terminator," but we also know that it's Arnold, and if we haven't been living under a rock, it's virtually impossible to not be reminded of his public infidelity, or political controversies, etc.

I could go on and on about all of the unique, original, and outright impressive elements that make this show the best of its kind, but suffice it to say that I'm on board - it's a great attraction.

 

[Skunk]

You are definitely not alone. Definitely one of my favorite attractions. Unfortunately, I think it's time will come sooner rather than later

Unfortunately, it's my understanding that various accidents and injuries have raised some safety concerns and, in turn, reduced the quality of the current presentation. Various elements, such as the live on-stage gun fire, has apparently been removed (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Gunfire is still there. I have seen a show once or twice when they didn't have it, but those were really isolated cases. Maybe it was a momentary, since resolved safety concern, or maybe they were just out of blanks or something.

It's true the show really depends on those elements though. I remember once going when the Fat Boy must have been broken, that was really jarring as they still played the loud motorcycle sound effects but it was just the Arnold-guy walking around the stage. And every time I've been lately at least one of the T-80s has been down.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

No, you are not alone at all! If Mickeys Philharmagic gives you a heart warming feeling as a 3-D show then Terminator will blow you away with action. It is exactly the way I certainly wished they did the movie Terminator 3 or even the poorly received 4th one. The attraction alone is better than those movies.

It reminds me of the days when Arnold was the biggest movie star in the world. He wasn't a politician, he wasn't a baby daddy, he was just awesome all the time!

That attraction is immersive and it would be a darn shame if that were ever replaced. You know, I don't get it, they have tons of space at Universal. Or they DID at least. What do they do with all that space? Put a rollercoaster which is clearly out of place in a Studio park. Thanks to that, Jaws is gone and who knows what else

 

[Timekeeper]

...Thanks to that, Jaws is gone and who knows what else

I'll tell you what else; make a list of your favorite attractions that have any nostalgic value or artistic merit, and your list will match Universal's upcoming-demolitions list.

 

[dxwwf3]

Favorite attraction in the park for me and probably second only to Back To The Future in my all time list for USF. It's an amazing show.

 

[flynnibus]

T2 and Shrek both get a bad rap from those who visit USO all the time mainly because they are movie/stage shows that don't have a ton of repeatability.

If you visit the park 3-4 times a year.. you're going to tire of these types of shows and not go in them. Then you start to see them as 'wastes' because you find no enjoyment in them and then you start to hate on them.

Shrek is always listed as a property to go... yet I find the preshow in that to be the best in the park.. and the film is decent and far more enjoyable IMO (and to a wider audience!) then contemporaries like Muppetvision or Eo/HISTA.

The Donkey character greet is fantastic. Yes the realism of the character head isn't great.. but the acting and interaction are phenomenal. It blows away any M&G at Disney.

I think the hate is more about the style of show.. then the actual show itself. They just don't lend themselves well to repeatability.

 

[cheezbat]

love this show. By far my favorite 3-d show at ANY theme park anywhere. I'll take it over Shrek, Philharmagic, It's Tough to Be a Bug, Muppetvision, Captain EO, or any other any day.

 

[Timekeeper]

... I think the hate is more about the style of show.. then the actual show itself. They just don't lend themselves well to repeatability.

Hmmm, maybe the show finale (inside Cyberdyne) could be updated to incorporate multiple endings; a bit like the Star Tours update. That portion of the show is all CGI anyway, so it wouldn't require any additional principal photography, and not knowing which of 4 or 5 endings an audience will see could increase its repeatability... The actors would just need to be trained for each scenario, but the blocking could be almost identical in each scenario. Maybe instead of just the T-1,000,000, there could be other "villains" and obstacles within Cyberdyne... :sohappy:

Sigh, just wishful thinking I suppose.

 

[JT3000]

You know, I don't get it, they have tons of space at Universal. Or they DID at least. What do they do with all that space? Put a rollercoaster which is clearly out of place in a Studio park. Thanks to that, Jaws is gone and who knows what else

Are you referring to Rockit? Have you seen its layout and the space it uses? Nothing else could have been placed there. Certainly not Jaws' replacement. They shoehorned a roller coaster into a space that could only accommodate a roller coaster. It was all backstage too, so they actually expanded the park.

USF does have places to expand without replacing anything. They just aren't using them.

 

[AswaySuller]

But why aren't they using them?
Are they saving it for a rainy day/bigger and better things to come?
Because I'd be concerned that if they don't start using it soon they're going to ________ off their loyal Fanbase like you and I.
I love this park as do MY parents. We have visited since day one but I would be less inclined to go if the park is virtually unrecognisable and I'm almost certain my parents wouldn't visit at all.

I'm glad others love T2 as much as I do. To me this is T2 and a half and I'll take it over the new movies any day!!!!

Its funny hearing people having effects isues. I have seen the bike broken once out of about 30 views and the only other issue I've ever had with it was there was once a guy playng Arnold that even I would have been a more realistic match for.

 

[Timekeeper]

Its funny hearing people having effects isues. I have seen the bike broken once out of about 30 views and the only other issue I've ever had with it was there was once a guy playng Arnold that even I would have been a more realistic match for.

I haven't seen the show recently, but it's my understanding that various live show elements have been changed due to injuries and safety concerns. So, that doesn't mean that there are necessarily effects issues or technical problems. It just means that changes were intentionally made that, unfortunately, diminish the "realism" of the original show.

The bike illusion IS amazing. And when it's not working, the alternate blocking isn't that bad. It sucks for us, because we know how much better it is when it's fully functional, but for someone who has never seen the show before (and doesn't know what they're missing), it's still an impressive show.

 

[figment1988]

No, you are not alone at all! If Mickeys Philharmagic gives you a heart warming feeling as a 3-D show then Terminator will blow you away with action. It is exactly the way I certainly wished they did the movie Terminator 3 or even the poorly received 4th one. The attraction alone is better than those movies.

It reminds me of the days when Arnold was the biggest movie star in the world. He wasn't a politician, he wasn't a baby daddy, he was just awesome all the time!

That attraction is immersive and it would be a darn shame if that were ever replaced. You know, I don't get it, they have tons of space at Universal. Or they DID at least. What do they do with all that space? Put a rollercoaster which is clearly out of place in a Studio park. Thanks to that, Jaws is gone and who knows what else

you're not the only one either. I find T2 quite enjoyable, plus it's one of those attractions which is based on an R-Rated movie, yet has been known to appeal to practically everyone including kids (mainly because of both the Kenner action figures based on T2 and the video games including the Midway rail shooter which is known for having the first half take place in 2029 during the Judgement Day wars). It's even interesting to see because of the smallest details which stand out (i.e. Kim Duncan's attitude change when the Connors interrupt the pre-show, as well as the auditorium which is in "memory" of Miles Dyson).

 

[daikonjam]

I saw it once; that was all I needed. I liked it, but it wasn't something I'd want to do again. That's probably why the people on here don't like it as much: Most people here make annual trips to these places.

 

[Timekeeper]

In my experience, T2 3-D is the only 3-D-based Orlando theme park attraction that consistently receives a resounding round of applause from the audience at the end of each show. :sohappy:

 

[CoasterKing]

One of my favorites as well. I guess I've been lucky as all the effects are always working the times I've been. And yes, we always hear applause at the end of the show as well.

I like when the seats rise up as you ascend the elevator and then drop suddenly at the end of the show. It still startles me even though I know it's coming. All that fog that rushes at you at the end is cool as well. Hope it does not get closed anytime soon.

CoasterKing
:king:

 

[AswaySuller]

One of my favorites as well. I guess I've been lucky as all the effects are always working the times I've been. And yes, we always hear applause at the end of the show as well.

I like when the seats rise up as you ascend the elevator and then drop suddenly at the end of the show. It still startles me even though I know it's coming. All that fog that rushes at you at the end is cool as well. Hope it does not get closed anytime soon.

CoasterKing
:king:

Brilliant subtle effects, someone mentioned before that it doesn't have repeat value....

I've seen it 30 times and love it as much as I did the first time.

 

[CoasterKing]

Brilliant subtle effects, someone mentioned before that it doesn't have repeat value....

I've seen it 30 times and love it as much as I did the first time.

I agree. Plenty of repeat value in my book. We see it every time we go.

SUPER !!

CoasterKing
:king:

 

[RedFoxRunner]

I do enjoy the T2-3D show but it has been there since 1999! I think the Terminator franchise is a great one but I'm surprised only a 3D show came of it - certainly a dark ride or Spidermanesque ride would have been pretty awesome!

I think the T23D queue is pretty horrible. Those overhead monitors play the most cliche late 90s subject matter - it looks like it's far from "high tech." I think a little update to the queue video, something more interesting in line to look at (including the 2nd queue), and a new movie - it could easily be reinvented for another 10 years or so.

I do enjoy the live action portion and wish they had more of it. It is a unique show - I wouldn't be extremely upset to see it go, but think it could really be revamped to use modern technology to the fullest extent.

 

[Bairstow]

If there's anything that will make you appreciate living in the 21st century, it's the T-2 3D preshow.

That said, the show itself is actually still very good, certainly better than Terminator 3 or that one with Batman in it.

As people have pointed out, the only thing it lacks is re-ridability.
The only 3/4-D show that's any better is Muppet-Vision, which I doubt will ever be topped.