Disney's Osprey Ridge golf course closing in August as part of the Golden Oak sale

Next Big Thing

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm, golfing,mini golfing, water parks, boating, horseback riding, spas, fishing, etc has always been in addition to the theme parks. I know for a fact a dad who went for the golfing while the wife and kids went to the parks.

All this in addition to the shopping and convention space, the ability to hold large draw events like marathons. This is all what WDW were meant to encompass.

But, I have a question. When did Disney stop running their own coarses?
I believe Arnold Palmer's group took over running them last year.
 

Black Pearl

Well-Known Member
You know what, you are right. I was out of line and what I said was rude and obnoxious. I am sorry, @Black Pearl. I have no excuse. I get passionate about WDW and I am not sure I like where it's going. This whole golf course thing is just a reminder to me that this isn't WDW I experienced as a child.

Again, I am sorry for what I wrote to you, Black Pearl.

I understand. Having worked there in entertainment, been married there, and traveling there an average of every two or three months it holds a special place in my heart too. Everyone has those special memories that are untouchable and when the "new corporate table" decides to change things, it can feel like it affects us on a deeper level.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Hmmmm, golfing,mini golfing, water parks, boating, horseback riding, spas, fishing, etc has always been in addition to the theme parks. I know for a fact a dad who went for the golfing while the wife and kids went to the parks.

All this in addition to the shopping and convention space, the ability to hold large draw events like marathons. This is all what WDW were meant to encompass.

But, I have a question. When did Disney stop running their own coarses?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._walt-disney-world-golf-courses-golf-datatech
Disney outright turned it over to them in 2011 following a string of things Disney started outsourcing. This is just a small step in many where Disney has slowly backed off the idea of running a vacation destination resort
 

Victor Kelly

Well-Known Member
This is a shame. Seems like everyone outsources nowadays. And it is sad to see Disney not being a destination resort and focusing on theme parks. Personally I enjoy mainly the theme parks. But not everyone does, and Disney has always had plenty of other things for people that did not like theme parks on needed a break from them.

I would love to be in the position to change all of this, maybe in another lifetime.
 

COProgressFan

Well-Known Member
I just don't get how a team of executives who fundamentally don't understand their own product or customers are supposed to effectively manage the company. But that's another topic.


Sad, and a bit scary, isn't it? But it generally sums up the way WDW is run these days.

I don't get it either.
 

MattM

Well-Known Member
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._walt-disney-world-golf-courses-golf-datatech
Disney outright turned it over to them in 2011 following a string of things Disney started outsourcing. This is just a small step in many where Disney has slowly backed off the idea of running a vacation destination resort

In this case, I think it actually improved the guest experience. Arnold Palmer is one of the most well known and respected names in golf, and they run their courses to that standard.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
In this case, I think it actually improved the guest experience. Arnold Palmer is one of the most well known and respected names in golf, and they run their courses to that standard.

Yeah, remember when Disney was thought of as creame of the crop in whatever they entered???
 

prberk

Well-Known Member
I agree. I think Disney has always had the equal to Harry Potter and Universal in the fact it offered a more complete resort experience. My family always does archery and the mini golf courses and next year I think we are going to even go horse back riding. You cant do anything like that at universal but yet Disney just lets it go to waste.

I know. It's amazing. That was what I always told people who didn't understand why I kept going back -- that it was more than what they saw on TV. It had beaches (which you can no longer swim in), boats, fishing, horseback riding, campfires, golf, cool shopping (which used to be unique), dinner shows (without characters) and nice interesting restaurants.

Now they chip away at that and make it nearly impossible to take advantage of the "resort" experience beyond the parks. People who usually say that they would rather go to Myrtle Beach or Nags Head, used to get the argument from me that you get most of that at WDW (except the actual ocean), plus a lot more.

I say they need to go back to that. The Poly used to have water ski shows and a true non-character luau. I still love the Hoop-de-Doo Revue. And let's not even bring up the lazy-river setting of River Country or the quiet, nice animal sanctuary that was the original "Discovery Island"... and definitely forget the feel of the original Golf Resort Hotel (now Shades of Green). And on the more "resort" and "style" side of things, remember when Food Network and other venuew used to highlight their unique and high-quality dining?

Some said here that they had to sell out to Four Seasons because they could not figure out how to get that top tier resort experience. Well, they used to know how. All the pieces are there. They just need to pay attention to something other than the park commandos for a little while, and they will see the gems that they have right there. Remember that nice resorts drive repeat business and in some ways don't cost quite as much to attract as park commandos. But the two can definitely complement one another.
 

Walt 1901

Active Member
I know. It's amazing. That was what I always told people who didn't understand why I kept going back -- that it was more than what they saw on TV. It had beaches (which you can no longer swim in), boats, fishing, horseback riding, campfires, golf, cool shopping (which used to be unique), dinner shows (without characters) and nice interesting restaurants.

Now they chip away at that and make it nearly impossible to take advantage of the "resort" experience beyond the parks. People who usually say that they would rather go to Myrtle Beach or Nags Head, used to get the argument from me that you get most of that at WDW (except the actual ocean), plus a lot more.

I say they need to go back to that. The Poly used to have water ski shows and a true non-character luau. I still love the Hoop-de-Doo Revue. And let's not even bring up the lazy-river setting of River Country or the quiet, nice animal sanctuary that was the original "Discovery Island"... and definitely forget the feel of the original Golf Resort Hotel (now Shades of Green). And on the more "resort" and "style" side of things, remember when Food Network and other venuew used to highlight their unique and high-quality dining?

Some said here that they had to sell out to Four Seasons because they could not figure out how to get that top tier resort experience. Well, they used to know how. All the pieces are there. They just need to pay attention to something other than the park commandos for a little while, and they will see the gems that they have right there. Remember that nice resorts drive repeat business and in some ways don't cost quite as much to attract as park commandos. But the two can definitely complement one another.
I agree with you totally. As a kid we would do the sea racers on bay lake and then come back to our cabin and rent the canoe for the day and my brother and I would canoe the canals all day long. We would swim at our resort and play basketball. Belief it or not my family would go for 10 days and only buy a 3 day pass and we would have the time of our lives just enjoying the resort activities. Total shame that they just waste the property.
 

merry68

Active Member
We don't golf, but the courses always look so beautiful.

I think what bugs me is that Disney has spent the last 20yrs building resorts and time shares. I think they forgot they were in the Theme Park business, not the hotel business. With the continued room and food discounts, it's obvious that WDW overdid itself on that part as it seems they're primarily concerned with keeping all those rooms occupied. I would've preferred all that money spent building these resort hotels and DVC units be spent inside the parks. Hindsight is 20/20.
 

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