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News Disney's Magical Express to end after 2021

Shouldigo12

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And what alternative would that be other than a free bus?
Not sure I understand your point. I don't care what alternative they offer; their own bus service, the train, a league of well trained alligators. The problem for me is, ME was a big perk for me and a good way to justify the price of the hotels. That perk is gone, and there isn't any alterative offered by Disney as a perk for staying at their hotels that I can use. Yes, I could use Mears once they break from Disney or an Uber. But now I'm paying for that cost, on top of the high hotel prices.

Of course there are other transportation options available to people. That's irrelevant. What I'm concerned about is what Disney is offering to get me to the hotel, and right now that's nothing.
 

unmitigated disaster

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Not sure I understand your point. I don't care what alternative they offer; their own bus service, the train, a league of well trained alligators. The problem for me is, ME was a big perk for me and a good way to justify the price of the hotels. That perk is gone, and there isn't any alterative offered by Disney as a perk for staying at their hotels that I can use. Yes, I could use Mears once they break from Disney or an Uber. But now I'm paying for that cost, on top of the high hotel prices.

Of course there are other transportation options available to people. That's irrelevant. What I'm concerned about is what Disney is offering to get me to the hotel, and right now that's nothing.
I vote for the well-trained alligators.
 

Buck Wheelie

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Not sure I understand your point. I don't care what alternative they offer; their own bus service, the train, a league of well trained alligators. The problem for me is, ME was a big perk for me and a good way to justify the price of the hotels. That perk is gone, and there isn't any alterative offered by Disney as a perk for staying at their hotels that I can use. Yes, I could use Mears once they break from Disney or an Uber. But now I'm paying for that cost, on top of the high hotel prices.

Of course there are other transportation options available to people. That's irrelevant. What I'm concerned about is what Disney is offering to get me to the hotel, and right now that's nothing.
Disney is banking their customer base is loyal and dedicated enough to suck up the price increases with less perks and keep showing up. I think their cuts will bite them in the rear especially the loss of ME which was a huge perk in my opinion.
 

UNCgolf

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The cut of a perk that didn't even exist for the first 35 years of operation?

The prices were a lot lower during those first 35 years too.

I don't know why so many people keep framing this as a black and white situation on both sides of the issue. Yes, it's true that WDW existed without DME and it can (and will) exist without it going forward. It's also true that the price of Disney resort rooms used to be far cheaper than they are now, and that those room prices aren't going to decrease just because they've removed DME.

Embrace the nuance.
 

trojanjustin

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The prices were a lot lower during those first 35 years too.

I don't know why so many people keep framing this as an either/or situation on both sides of the issue. Yes, it's true that WDW existed without DME and it can exist without it going forward. It's also true that the price of Disney resort rooms used to be far cheaper than they are now, and that those room prices aren't going to decrease just because they've removed DME.

It is true they did price themselves out of the market and overbuilt, so they turned a lot of cash rooms into DVC to compensate. I would be surprised if there wasn't some kind of add-on-at-booking partnership with Mears that replaces DME.
 

Buck Wheelie

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The cut of a perk that didn't even exist for the first 35 years of operation?
Most people don't care ME wasn't there the first 35 years. They care it was there the last 15 or so and it's going away. They want new perks, benefits and updates have proven they will pay more for it. Disney is going the other direction with everything except prices. How much are people willing to pay for less?
 

MissingDisney

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For our family, I think we have seen our last on property trip but didn’t know it at the time. EMH, DME, were 2 perks very important to us and sort of what we used to “justify“ Disney resort prices, albeit always on some type of promotion, when we did stay on property. “Well the hotel costs this much BUT....we get free transfers from the airport, extra fun time at MK.....oh ok....we’re SAVING money!” 😂. We do timeshares in the area often when we don’t do Disney and know we get A LOT more for our money staying elsewhere, so now with a much lesser accommodation with no perks, it‘s just not worth it anymore for us. We‘ve been those devoted fans, traveling across the country a couple times a year for Disney but I definitely see our visits changing.

I have no problem paying for a better experience or more, new things but paying more for literally less.....nope.
 
An analogy to this situation for those who don't get why this seems like a bigger deal than a change in dining plans, Extra Magic Hours, magic bands, Fast Passes, etc... Imagine your local school system cut band uniforms, funding for the soccer team, school supply budgets, teacher appreciation funds, etc. - and then imagine they cancelled school buses. Just cancelled them, done, no more school buses. Students with zero transportation would get a voucher for a cab, everyone else could walk or be driven. I think to 90% of people, that would stand out as a much bigger deal. Why? I don't know, it just would.

I get that all of these things are subjective and one person's big deal is another person's 'meh', but hopefully that helps explain why transportation feels like such a bedrock thing, not a little extra that comes and goes. And I say that as someone who is sympathetic so long as Disney is doing this because they really have to for financial reasons due to Covid. I think it's problematic on two fronts - one, it's just horribly inconvenient. Buses were much easier for families, those with disabilities, women traveling alone, seniors uncomfortable with Uber, and I'm sure many other groups. Second... and, warning, I know this is a somewhat scandalous opinion, and it makes me sad to say it... but it feels cheap. There, I said it. It feels cheap and, if it's not an absolute necessity due to Covid, then it feels like dealing with used car salesmen who are trying to shadily make every last buck. (Yes, yes, that's capitalism, but it's supposed to be well hidden, at least.) Let's be honest, to some extent you a paying for a brand name, and a pricey one, with Disney. It would be like buying a designer purse for top dollar that a store clerk shoved at you in a wadded up plastic bag, with threads sticking out at the mismatched seams and plastic zippers. Part of why people pay top dollar for those kind of things is so that they can oooh and aaaah at all the froufrou little extras.
 

Shouldigo12

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An analogy to this situation for those who don't get why this seems like a bigger deal than a change in dining plans, Extra Magic Hours, magic bands, Fast Passes, etc... Imagine your local school system cut band uniforms, funding for the soccer team, school supply budgets, teacher appreciation funds, etc. - and then imagine they cancelled school buses. Just cancelled them, done, no more school buses. Students with zero transportation would get a voucher for a cab, everyone else could walk or be driven. I think to 90% of people, that would stand out as a much bigger deal. Why? I don't know, it just would.

I get that all of these things are subjective and one person's big deal is another person's 'meh', but hopefully that helps explain why transportation feels like such a bedrock thing, not a little extra that comes and goes. And I say that as someone who is sympathetic so long as Disney is doing this because they really have to for financial reasons due to Covid. I think it's problematic on two fronts - one, it's just horribly inconvenient. Buses were much easier for families, those with disabilities, women traveling alone, seniors uncomfortable with Uber, and I'm sure many other groups. Second... and, warning, I know this is a somewhat scandalous opinion, and it makes me sad to say it... but it feels cheap. There, I said it. It feels cheap and, if it's not an absolute necessity due to Covid, then it feels like dealing with used car salesmen who are trying to shadily make every last buck. (Yes, yes, that's capitalism, but it's supposed to be well hidden, at least.) Let's be honest, to some extent you a paying for a brand name, and a pricey one, with Disney. It would be like buying a designer purse for top dollar that a store clerk shoved at you in a wadded up plastic bag, with threads sticking out at the mismatched seams and plastic zippers. Part of why people pay top dollar for those kind of things is so that they can oooh and aaaah at all the froufrou little extras.
Ha! This is a hilarious analogy for me, because that actually did happen to my high school. They spent a bunch of money building a school they couldn't afford then funneled the rest into the football team. Que nearly every extracurricular being cancelled, many of the "extra" classes (such as languages, art, the interesting history stuff, etc) and, of course, busses.

It majorly sucked, if anyone is wondering, and was a big reason I switched school districts.
 

brianstl

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Of all the things Disney has cut, I don't think a $30 cab ride is the hill people will die on.
This is different because for guest that take DME it is their first and last memory of their trip. When your first and last memory of your trip in Orlando becomes paying an extra fee for your trip, it changes your perspective on all the other extra money you have spent to stay on property. In many people's mind that perk right after landing and right as they are leaving helps justify the other expenses.
 

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