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DisneylandForward

Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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DrStarlander said:
Noticed something I thought was interesting today in the DisneylandForward docs from Anaheim. A map showing Disney owned or leased properties seems to include the Alpine Inn.

I then found this 2021 thread here where @truecoat pointed out this same diagram that seemed to show that Disney owned the Alpine Inn land, indicated by black hash:
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Member Darkbeer1 replied:
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...and that ended that conversation.

I noticed in the DisneylandForward (2024) city documents the same diagram exists very early in the document sandwiched between pages before and after dated 2024. Why re-publish the image recently if not correct, I wonder?
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Perhaps totally unrelated -- and maybe I'm not understanding correctly -- but I think Disney is acquiring Hotel Way from the city. As far as I can tell, Hotel Way lines up with the Alpine Inn. Am I locating the correct Hotel Way? If so, any ideas why they want to buy it?
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Darkbeer was our resident Anaheim government expert, he passed away in 2023. He was on many committees and such over the years that had inside information on the inner workings of how Anaheim and the Disneyland Resort worked. So if said he saw documents at the time showing that Disney doesn't own Alpine I would believe him. Why they haven't been corrected in documentation who knows. But notice it does say that the hashed properties could also be "leased" by Disney, and that property specifically is a long term 3rd party lease, so it might not actually be owned by Disney. Also even if they did own it its not going anywhere for a long time if ever due to the 3rd party lease.

As for why they want Hotel Way, at the time it was mentioned that it was to help with traffic flow into and out of Disney Parking, likely TSL, as I assume that will be one of paths that the buses eventually take to get traffic off of Katella and Harbor as much as possible.
 
AJFireman

AJFireman

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DrStarlander said:
Perhaps totally unrelated -- and maybe I'm not understanding correctly -- but I think Disney is acquiring Hotel Way from the city. As far as I can tell, Hotel Way lines up with the Alpine Inn. Am I locating the correct Hotel Way? If so, any ideas why they want to buy it?
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The Hotel Way that Disney took control of is this little road that entered their parking off of Disney Way.
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Here is the description from the City Website regarding the roads they bought from the city. "Hotel Way" as described here is only 125 feet long and matches that little road.
"The plan also calls for Disney to pay $39.6 million to take on responsibility for Magic Way, a road 1,150 feet in length from Disneyland Drive to Walnut Street, and for entry drives into Disney parking at Clementine Street, at 575 feet in length, and Hotel Way, at 125 feet in length. Payment would also go to remove planned extensions of Clementine and Gene Autry Way"
 
NobodyElse

NobodyElse

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DrStarlander said:
Perhaps totally unrelated -- and maybe I'm not understanding correctly -- but I think Disney is acquiring Hotel Way from the city. As far as I can tell, Hotel Way lines up with the Alpine Inn. Am I locating the correct Hotel Way? If so, any ideas why they want to buy it?
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I don't recall seeing this. Can you point to where this came up?
 
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DrStarlander

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AJFireman said:
The Hotel Way that Disney took control of is this little road that entered their parking off of Disney Way.
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Here is the description from the City Website regarding the roads they bought from the city. "Hotel Way" as described here is only 125 feet long and matches that little road.
"The plan also calls for Disney to pay $39.6 million to take on responsibility for Magic Way, a road 1,150 feet in length from Disneyland Drive to Walnut Street, and for entry drives into Disney parking at Clementine Street, at 575 feet in length, and Hotel Way, at 125 feet in length. Payment would also go to remove planned extensions of Clementine and Gene Autry Way"
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That makes much more sense, thanks
 
Purduevian

Purduevian

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I know they have said nothing about a third park on the toy story lot... but had some fun with google maps and MS paint. I only used the land north of Convention Way/ bus path... giving plenty of space for backstage support (~23acers or ~1/3 of the land available). I made
A main street from HKDL,
A princess land with Frozen from HKL, BATB TDL, and Rapunzel TDS,
Pirates land with a lagoon, Shanghai Pirates, and Peter Pan TDS
Toystory land from HKDL
Pandora from AK
Zootopia from Shanghai

I'm pretty sure everything is to scale
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britain

britain

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From over in the Shanghai thread, found on Twitter and screenshot before it was deleted:

Burgower1994 said:
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Could be fan made, but looks better than your typical fan made concept art. Matches the rumors of an "IP-COT" theme for Shanghai's second gate.

So, I post this here simply to say that I personally thought Disney had no real interest in "franchising" Epcot ever since Westcot died 30 years ago. But if this is actually the concept for Shanghai's second park, then maybe there is still a chance for something smaller but similar for California.
 

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