imo it would be great to have a water park with the scale as Volcano Bay even it it was closed 2-3 months of the year. Thats just imo and will never happen though. Maybe knotts will do something grand with their waterpark in the future....If they went all out and spent 500+ million like Universal did on a top notch waterpark, theyd have that segment on lock
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Consumer
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Why? Water parks are disgusting.
chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
- No
- Disney gets about 70-80 more acres of land in Anaheim to build on. I'd hate for any of it to be wasted on a water park.
- How would Disney theming enhance a water park? There's nothing unique about them.
- As others have said, there are plenty of water parks in So. Cal to go to.
- Also as others have said, it would be closed for minimum 4 months of the year (not 2-3).
- Piggy-backing on that, Volcano Bay works in Florida because it is tropical and hot there year round.
ETA: It actually does look like a fun water park, but that doesn't negate what I listed above.
Nirya
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I think it's fun that you think Disney would consider their CMs in any of this.
Phroobar
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There are 5 water parks.
Knott's Soak City
Magic Mountain's Hurricane Harbor
Raging Waters
Wild Rivers
Great Wolf Lodge
Four out of five of them are within 20 miles or less of Disneyland.
Disney Irish
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Well the current surface lot where this parking structure would go is CM parking.
yeah but I think they are all pretty bad and unthemed.
shambolicdefending
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Disney has such a limited amount of potential space to work with in and around Anaheim, it's hard to imagine they'd see a seasonal water park as the best (i.e. most profitable) use for any of it. It makes a ton more sense in Orlando with warmer year-round weather and no major space constraints.
TheDisneyParksfanC8
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I am going to wager a bet that the "Beyond Big Thunder Mountain" expansion IPs from WDW: Coco, Encanto, and the Villains land will make their way to DLR as part of DL Forward. Coco and Encanto will go in DCA in the parking lot next to Pixar Piet while Villains will go In Disneyland proper.
SSG
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It's going to be fascinating to see what happens to Toy Story. It's a 70-odd acre blank canvass. I get that Disney Forward is about gaining zoning flexibility so the resort can do as it likes with its land, but I think it would border on malpractice to simply make it shopping and dining. Disney is unlikely to get this much contiguous land any time soon. Make the most of it.
BTW, wasn't there a rumor a few years back that Disney owned some of the apartments butting up to Toy Story (lower right side)? @TP2000 , was it you that mentioned that at one point?
BTW, wasn't there a rumor a few years back that Disney owned some of the apartments butting up to Toy Story (lower right side)? @TP2000 , was it you that mentioned that at one point?
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I could see that becoming a shopping/hotel coplex more than another park, as much as Id rather it be another park. It woulda been so cool if Disney bought GardenWalk a few years ago when it was for sale and then extended the monorail east over harbor connecting to new parking structure, then south through the garden walk and onto the toystory lot for something with direct access via monorail
Nirya
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There were rumors that Disney had bought some of the apartments a few years ago. One section of the apartments is also the subject of rumors that the city is planning to eminent domain them as part of their stupid "Extend Autry Way to the Convention Center" plan that they love and everyone else hates.
Even then, I think everyone who talks about doing shopping on that land underestimates just how large it is. As of right now, it's just under the size of DCA (including backstage area), so if they could expand the land even a little bit, they'd be exactly where they need to be for a good-sized third park. It's also why the choice not to buy GardenWalk on the cheap when they had the chance always stood out as short-sighted to me, if only to give Disney a clear corridor between the parks to build something, but considering how they struggle to maintain tenants in DTD, I can see why they wouldn't want to deal with a second version of that.
Even then, I think everyone who talks about doing shopping on that land underestimates just how large it is. As of right now, it's just under the size of DCA (including backstage area), so if they could expand the land even a little bit, they'd be exactly where they need to be for a good-sized third park. It's also why the choice not to buy GardenWalk on the cheap when they had the chance always stood out as short-sighted to me, if only to give Disney a clear corridor between the parks to build something, but considering how they struggle to maintain tenants in DTD, I can see why they wouldn't want to deal with a second version of that.
Consumer
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In a hypothetical world, if Disney were to build a theme park on the Toy Story Lot, it is not impractical for them to build a tunnel running under the park to connect Autry Way to the Convention Center, if the city were to incentivize it.
SSG
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This isn't my area but the city taking Toy Story via eminent domain seems like it'd be pretty expensive. The city can take the lot, but would have to pay just compensation. Part of that is figuring out the highest or best use of the property, which may not be the way the property is currently used.
That's very simplified, but you can see how that would add up. The city would be taking a potential theme park from Disney. No doubt Disney would tie that up in court for eons.
SSG
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Gotcha, and I see where my post was unclear. My point was if Disney owns those apartments and wanted to fold the land into a Toy Story development, then it would be pricy for the City to take them.
Nirya
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Yeah, pretty weird that the noise about the city wanting to eminent domain those apartments happened to die down a couple years ago as well!
That said, I'd guess that Disney doesn't own those apartments at the moment, but has made their intentions to buy them known to the people that matter and has also made it clear to the city that they are not planning to give up its own real estate for that road, which would be enough to get the city to back down on that particular dream. And if I also had to guess, I would bet that any actual development of the Toy Story lot into anything other than its current use is at least a decade away.
TP2000
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I probably did.
Back in the 2010's, TDA's favorite third-party realtor up on Lincoln Avenue was piecing together a deal on at least two of those apartment complexes for Disney.
The problem back then was how to prevent Anaheim's idiotic plan to extend 8 lanes of Gene Autry Way through that land, while simultaneously removing over a hundred units of "affordable" housing, which in Anaheim at the time was the third rail of politics..
It was a tough needle to thread politically, and it didn't help that this was also when Michael Colglazier was doing his best to ruin the 60 years of goodwill Disney had with Anaheim's City Hall by simply being Michael Colglazier.