Disneyland Paris (and Paris in general) Trip Report

brifraz

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We had really hoped to be able to enjoy an extra bonus during the mass... this guy in action:
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But, sadly, it was not in use during the Friday morning mass. After the mass was completed, we spent a little more time looking around both inside and outside. Such a beautiful basilica.
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We then walked to the artists market and did a few laps of all the booths there, before our daughter picked out a couple of pieces that she wanted to purchase. We continue just walking and exploring the area before beginning our descent back to lower altitudes!

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It was quite the climb up early in the morning and quite the steep walk back down!
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And, by this time, we were getting VERY hungry for some lunch! I'll be back with lunch from right next to a very famous Paris spot (maybe even later today... or possibly not for a few weeks...).
 

brifraz

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Today on The Slowest Trip Report Ever... how does it take us two weeks to finally get to lunch??

Well, coming down the hill from Sacre Coeur, we had to at least visit one of the most famous cabarets in the world, although not actually go in for a show (wow, it's a bit expensive).

The Moulin Rouge!
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And, seeing as we were right there and quite hungry, we grabbed lunch across the street at the Moulin Bis with a perfect table outside for people watching.
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Now refreshed and ready to rock, we headed back toward the center of the city. Instead of taking the main paths, we wandered a bit through some neighborhoods and enjoyed some of the Paris architecture. And thought very hard about possibly coming back with a power washer to get this church back up to full beauty.
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Our next destination was another on the prime list for tourists - although we kinda knew that our entire plan would be to look at it from the road and move on - while going inside might be cool, it just wasn't all that appealing to us!
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And, of course, looking back down the Champs Elysees from the Arc de Triomphe was necessary.
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We then wandered down the main shopping road of France and stopped in a few shops along the way. Bought some standard touristy stuff and even considered buying a car before seeing the important sign on the back.
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Despite my maturity lever, I suspect that I would be considered Adult, so we continued along our way. Once we got further down toward the river, we got to where the road has been totally closed off for the Olympics and then enjoyed walking around some of the Olympic shops and venues. Here's the view back up to the Arc de Triomphe.

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And here's the little Palace within the Olympics area.
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And some of the nicely decorated security walls around some of the venues.
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We continued to walk and eventually ended up back at our hotel with tired legs and sore feet. We grabbed some bread and cheese on the way and just had a light dinner in our room before going back to our little local bistro for a drink to wrap up the night.
 

brifraz

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It looks like 2 weeks is becoming the norm between each of these posts. Maybe not quite true any more - for the most part, the marching band season ended yesterday with a Veterans Day parade, which means I might actually have the time to post with a little more regularity and get this "Disney" Trip Report to Disney content soon!!

Not quite yet, though. We've got to go to one of the most famous palaces in the world. Versailles!

The morning was not our finest. As per our usual, we were up early and I grabbed some pastries, this time from Patisserie Midori. Didn't get any pictures of them, but I did enjoy the fact that the employees thought I actually spoke French when I ordered and tried to strike up a conversation... which I quickly had to stop since my French is not all that good!! At least my accent was believable when I said croissant or tart or whatever it was I got us that morning. So, despite a little light drizzle, things were looking good! Got ourselves ready and headed out. I'll be honest, I don't remember what it was that we forgot, but about a quarter of the way to the RER-C train station near Musee d'Orsay we realized it and I dashed back to the room to grab something. No worries, just pick up the pace to catch our 10am train. But then we had issues with the ticket machine and had to go to the counter to get our tickets... and missed the train. No problem, the 10:28am train will still get us there in time for our 11:30am entry time. It was right about then that we realized my wife had forgotten her phone. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the pictures in this trip report are from her phone. She has the nicest camera and we tend to pass it around to get the best shots with the best equipment. OK, no worries - we both have our phones and can get all the pictures! (gotta keep a positive spin)

We arrive at the station and gear up our 'disney-walking' feet to get us to the gates around 11:25am which will work, right? The drizzle has pretty much stopped except a few drops here and there. Pretty quickly throught the security and the gates into the courtward.
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And then we see the lines. Three HUGE lines with hundreds of people. One to the left, one in the center, and one to the right. No signage at all.
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Sadly, the picture doesn't give the full impact of these lines. But, we pick a line based on what people tend to be saying and dispatch @MeffysMom up to the entry gate (which is pretty much straight ahead on the left side of this picture)to verify we are in the right place. There are two signs at the front, one for the the 11am entry, one for the 11:30am entry, and then the third line which doesn't have a sign (still no idea what that was, but our guess is maybe it was the 'you are late for your entry time' line). We were in the correct line!! However, it's 11:25am and the 11am line is the one at least twice as long as ours??

For people used to Disney crowd management, this is difficult... we watch the 11am line progress at a very uneven rate and randomly the third line moves a bit here and there while we continue to stand still and our line gets long enough to now loop back around on itself a bit. Finally, at about 11:45am our line starts moving and we find ourselves getting inside at about noon. The line situation once in the building is even more chaotic - again, very little signage and not sure what is what, but I eventually get myself in the line for our pre-reserved audio tour device while the girls wander to find a little food. They also managed to get a selfie in the 'interior' courtyard.
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Around this time, a couple other little issues crop up. The drizzle is back (hence the relatively small number of people in the above selfie) and we realize that with my wife's phone as the only one with a European sim card, we don't have any kind of internet available and the WiFi at Versailles is less than the best. So, after a little while in the line, I'm wandering trying to find the girls as they wander to try to find me! We eventually get back together, look over the palace map, and come up with our game plan (there might have been a little mild panic in there as well).

I did manage to get one more picture outside - of the kind of things that amaze me at places like Versailles. The sheer magnitude of the opulence and incredible amount of money spent on it.
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It's seems but a simple thing, the 'gilded' ornate design on the fence. But there are hundreds of them! Okay, not going to digress into a discussion of inequities of wealth in the 17th and 18th centuries (and still today...no, said I wasn't going there). Having been to Versailles back in 1982 with my parents, I didn't remember many specifics of the palace or the gardens, just that it seemed to all be TOO MUCH. My opinion certainly hasn't changed. Back to fun and pictures!

Into the Palace we go. And here come lots of pictures of fancy stuff in the Palace. For the first half of our palace tour, we took our time and listened to the audio and read the placards and examined the paintings and furniture. These are just a couple pictures from that half of our tour.
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Our midway point was perhaps the most famous of the rooms, the Hall of Mirrors.
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As you can see quite a few people were enjoying their touring as well. Maybe not quite the crowd as in the Mona Lisa room, but still at times in the smaller rooms, a bit difficult to move about and certainly tough to read the placards and look at all the paintings.
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And, if you look closely enough, you might see a bit of frustration behind those smiles! But, we were still enjoying ourselves. Took a moment to look outside in each of the rooms and be amazed at the gardens.
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And be even more amazed by the lack of crowds outside. How can this be? The Palace itself is packed and the gardens are one of the main draws? Oh, it's not drizzling any more. It's raining. A good, steady rain with moments of downpours.

But we've still got quite a bit of the palace to go!
 

brifraz

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During the second half of our palace interior time, we perhaps didn't read quite as many of the informative signs... maybe didn't listen to many of the audio tour descriptions... maybe just looked and basked in it all. These pictures are more from the 'lesser' family member's rooms (not the king's) or even the rooms of some of the consorts (really not going to get into that!!!).
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As we wrapped up our time inside, we decided to stop and get a meal (not sure what it would be called, but we will go with late lunch) to give ourselves some energy for the gardens - and also to hopefully wait out the heavier rain. Once again, we find that the lines are chaotic random at best. There are three places to eat in the palace (at I'm pretty sure there were three!) and after seeing what appeared to be very long lines for the seated restaurants, we found ourselves in a mass of people at the cafe counters picking up a couple pre-made sandwiches and a pastry. Scoring ourselves a place to sit was a bit complicated, but eventually we got a little table and just enjoyed sitting for a few minutes of not getting bumped into and getting food in our bellies. Sadly, no food pictures - but, it wasn't anything incredible to look at, just imagine a couple sandwiches on mini-baguettes and some chips.

Time to head out to the gardens. Which we were pretty ill-equipped for. Our daughter had a raincoat, but neither of us old folks did. As we had entered the palace, there had been some guys selling umbrellas (parapluies) and since the drizzle was very light at that time or almost non-existent we hadn't splurged the 5 euros. We had chosen poorly. In was still raining pretty good as we entered the gardens.

In fact, this little guy seemed to be much better suited to the situation!
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One of the many sections of gardens from above.
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And then from within.
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The main thoroughfare.
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And us, early on in our gardens touring and still relatively dry (please note, we are not at all dry!!)
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brifraz

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The gardens really are amazing and beautiful and much respect to the team that keeps them up. We loved that we could get so many pictures without a lot of people in them, but perhaps would have preferred a little bit less of the wetness.

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We wandered down quite a few paths like this one to find small fountains.
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Our map was so soaked as to make it not worth even trying to figure out where we were!! So, we just explored.
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And found lots of little nooks and crannies that we had entirely to ourselves.
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And even some wide open spaces that we had entirely to ourselves!
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As you might have already surmised... it was raining quite a bit more at this point, so we started to make our way back up toward the palace.
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And, wow... we were beyond wet.
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It was time to start heading back to the train station and get back into town and get dry! We made a quick pitstop at a little cafe just across from the train station to wring out our clothes and grab a little snack. It was at this moment that we truly realized how wet we were. I wish we had taken some pictures of this, but we were just exhausted and not terribly comfortable... but the ink in my hat had started to run. As in... the top of my head was now blue!! Grabbed a ton of napkins and tried to make me look a bit less like smurf and decided to part ways with the hat (at least 10 years old, so it had experienced a good life for a hat).

Caught the train back, and got to the room to warm-up, change, wring out clothes in the tub, etc. And, of course, the rain had let up greatly during our ride back into the city... Feeling much refreshed we went out to a little Italian place right near our hotel for dinner. Villa Dondelli. We neglected to get food and drink pictures (honestly, not sure why... perhaps just brain exhaustion from the day), but it was very good. Although the service was not too great - we had planned to have a second drink but our server didn't come back until we were quite past done with our food so we just headed back to the room to get some sleep and get ready for... DISNEY!
 

Swissmiss

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Oh your posts bring back memories. I went to Versailles with my daughter, my brother and his wife. The latter did not have European SIM cards and at one point we lost my sister in law. Most likely because of the DELUGE of rain. (The following day we lost my brother on the Eiffel Tower.)
 

brifraz

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Oh your posts bring back memories. I went to Versailles with my daughter, my brother and his wife. The latter did not have European SIM cards and at one point we lost my sister in law. Most likely because of the DELUGE of rain. (The following day we lost my brother on the Eiffel Tower.)
Yeah, we actually ended up just paying for a day of international data for our daughter's phone when we had our late lunch - just wanted to make sure we were connected to the greater universe. Obviously rain, lack of SIM and lost people is a common theme!!
 

brifraz

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Three posts in one day! I gotta take a break. And, the football has started (or should I say soccer?) so my focus is a bit divided. I feel pretty confident I'll get everyone to Disneyland Paris much quicker than two weeks from now, though!!
 

Kevin_W

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Yeah, we actually ended up just paying for a day of international data for our daughter's phone when we had our late lunch - just wanted to make sure we were connected to the greater universe. Obviously rain, lack of SIM and lost people is a common theme!!

We we travel internationally we use a wifi hotspot from GlocalMe. It's ~$8/day for 1GB of data and 5 devices can connect to it. Well worth it to me in the price of a vacation for us all to have working cell phones and data!

Looks like we had good advice when we visited Versailles since we rope-dropped it and had much less in the way of lines. It's still quite high on my list of "overrated tourist destinations". Seeing the opulence is interesting, but got old quickly for me. And I preferred the gardens at Chenonceau.
 

brifraz

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We we travel internationally we use a wifi hotspot from GlocalMe. It's ~$8/day for 1GB of data and 5 devices can connect to it. Well worth it to me in the price of a vacation for us all to have working cell phones and data!

Looks like we had good advice when we visited Versailles since we rope-dropped it and had much less in the way of lines. It's still quite high on my list of "overrated tourist destinations". Seeing the opulence is interesting, but got old quickly for me. And I preferred the gardens at Chenonceau.

We had initially intended to get reservations for the very first entry time, but weren't confident in our skills with the trains and waking up early after a very long previous day!!

I actually think that a good portion of the line insanity was due to the rain - usually a pretty large percentage of people for each entry time will start with the gardens and NOBODY was going out there on this particular day.
 

Kevin_W

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We had initially intended to get reservations for the very first entry time, but weren't confident in our skills with the trains and waking up early after a very long previous day!!
We had a car and drove - which is its own set of adventures! The GPS took us through the Arc de Triumph roundabout, I think just out of spite. Most of driving in France was pretty easy, but that wasn't fun.
 

brifraz

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Finally, it's time to get to Disneyland Paris! I hope you are ready for ALL the pictures, because we took a ton. (to be honest, we also took a ton in Paris, but I just posted highlights).

We got up pretty early, packed everything, and got on the train out to Chessy. We knew there was no chance of rope dropping, so our plan was to head to the hotel after getting off the train and at least check in (crossing fingers for an early room) and get the lay of the land.

Once off the train, we couldn't resist getting a least one picture looking toward the parks before heading to the Hotel Cheyenne.
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Just happy that there is still an Earful Tower - although, I have a feeling with the rebranding/renovation going on at the park almost formerly known as Walt Disney Studios (really... Disney Adventure World... seriously??) that it might not be long for this world. We then headed toward Cheyenne, or so we thought. We just wanted to walk and didn't feel like going through security and Disney Village, but we somehow managed to take a wrong turn and after 5 minutes going in what evidently was a wrong direction, we headed back to the bus station and grabbed a ride!

One of the things that I found really good about Disneyland Paris as a whole was the dedication to quality theming and story telling (in the areas not under refurb/renovation). And, Hotel Cheyenne is no exception. You definitely feel like you are in a little town in the old west of the USA.
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And the extra touch of things like pony rides...
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And beds full of black-eyed susans...
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were definitely appreciated. On the flip side, getting through the check-in process took a little longer than we are used to in WDW. But, we got ourselves checked in and dropped our luggage off with bell services and then headed to the parks.

The path along the Rio Grande was nice and relaxing; although what do you call said waterway? Certainly not a river, perhaps a canal?? Regardless, the water was very stagnant at this time which meant that there were some algae blooms in areas and the vegetation along the path was definitely a bit overgrown in places. I wouldn't say it looked bad, but it wasn't the most beautiful scenery along the walk. But then things opened up to the recently renovated New York Hotel (pictures of that coming later) and then into Disney Village which had some very familiar sites...
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...as well as a wealth of construction walls and sounds. In fact, I'd even say that it was quite noisy with mechanical equipment as we walked through (again, more pictures of the area coming later).
 

brifraz

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Let's get into that Castle Park!!
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For those who maybe haven't been, the entry is pretty genius layout. As you approach their Disneyland Hotel, it is a beautiful facade and you really have very little idea of what is behind it.
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Obviously, everybody needs to get their pictures in front of the hotel and we felt that we could oblige that.
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But you aren't here just to see pictures of the hotel are you? You want pictures of...

The fountain, too!
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Oh, wait, maybe that's not it. Come on, let's go!
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Once inside the gates, things seemed pretty familiar although in small ways a little bit different. You've got the train station.
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You've got some very familiar buildings around the town square.
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And then that majestic view down Main Street USA of lots of peoples heads... oh, and a castle.
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At least we finally made it to the parks!! And, we took our time exploring on this first day. But, sadly, I need to get going for school today. Be back soon.
 

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