Disneyland or DisneySea?

CrisKennedy

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Original Poster
DH, DS, and I are going to Tokyo in September. Because of plans to sightsee in and around Tokyo and to attend the Tokyo Game Show, we can only devote 1 day to Disney. Which park would you recommend, Disneyland or Disney Sea, keeping in mind DS will be 22-months-old at the time of our trip? TIA!

Crystal
 

Tim G

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CrisKennedy said:
DH, DS, and I are going to Tokyo in September. Because of plans to sightsee in and around Tokyo and to attend the Tokyo Game Show, we can only devote 1 day to Disney. Which park would you recommend, Disneyland or Disney Sea, keeping in mind DS will be 22-months-old at the time of our trip? TIA!

Crystal
DH? DS???

Are you able to speak a little japanese??? if not... good luck... :D

Some CMs speak english... but just "some"

And in Tokyo... some citizens speak english... Some...

There are english billboards...
And the train stations have the signs in japanes as well as in english... but that's about it...

Try to speak a little japanese... or else you will get lost... :D
 

CrisKennedy

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Original Poster
DH = dear/darling husband
DS = dear/darling son

Corrus- Your post has nothing to do with my question. Seriously, if you can't recommend a park, you shouldn't have posted!
 

Tim G

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Tsk... Tsk... I tried to be helpfull... and wanted to give you some advise...

But alas it's obviously not appriciated...

To answer your question... DisneySea...

After the japanese lessons... :D :D :D :D :D ( k i d d i n g )



And please don't tell me what to post or where to post... We've got moderators for that...


dômo arigatô gozaimasu.
 

eikni

New Member
Disney Sea.

Tokyo Disneyland is pretty similar to the parks in Florida and California. The foods different but all in all similar layout, and similar rides.

Disney sea also has Sinbad which is similar to the small world for the little one, Ariels playground which is a nice indoor air conditioned kiddy area, and they have a double decker merry go round. The park is probably one of the best themed parks anywhere and is worth a see.

Since your child is so young, you might want to weigh which park seems to have more rides available, but if you already go to one of the United States parks, I definetly recommend Disney Sea.
 

TP2000

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My personal experience is vastly different from that of Corrus. I went to Tokyo Disney Resort for the first time last October, and I didn't have a single problem with not speaking Japanese. We were there three days, stayed at the Tokyo Disneyland Hilton, and had a wonderful time!

There were a few occasions where the CM's did a little bustling about to find an English speaking CM for us, but it wasn't really neccesary. It was actually very sweet of them to care that much. We were certainly capable of pointing out the item on the menu we wanted, or using hand signals to tell loaders that there were five of us in our party. I think the most memorable was the dinner we had at the Blue Bayou, where the original waitress who seated us and said "Welcome" and "Good Evening" in a thick Japanese accent was replaced by a different waitress a few moments later who spoke very good English, even better than some Americans I know. And that dinner was wonderful!

And of course there is plenty of Japanese dialogue in attractions and shows. But that's part of the fun! Hearing the Tiki Room in Japanese, or hearing pirates auctioning off the girls in Japanese is the fun part of being at Tokyo Disneyland. And honestly, Disney theme park rides don't involve complicated plotlines in any language. Even if you've never been on Pirates of the Caribbean or Haunted Mansion or Splash Mountain before in your life, you can easily figure out what's going on. Interestingly, all of the theme songs were still in English. The one exception to this attraction rule was StormRider at DisneySea. That attraction has lots of spoken dialogue in both the pre-show and the main show, and it's not entirely clear what's going on. It was still a fun ride, and the hotshot American pilot is represented by a slobby white guy who is constantly shoving food into his mouth, and that made us laugh. (Unfortunately, the Japanese have us stereotyped pretty well)

Purchasing souvenirs was also never a problem. You just need to present the correct amount of money for the total that shows up on the cash register, and you'll be fine. A big smile and a simple "Domo Arigato Gozaimas" (Thank You Very Much) will impress the CM's who don't expect foreigners to know any Japanese, and you'll always receive fabulous service. Most CM's seem thrilled to be able to try out their English skills, after an endless stream of fellow Japanese guests.

And again, meals were never, ever a problem. From little carts like the Gyozo Bun stand in DisneySea, to standard buffeteria places, to the fancy table service places we ate like Blue Bayou or Magellan's, we never had a single problem ordering from menus or pointing out which items we'd like. I did mention the CM service level everywhere on property is AMAZINGLY SUPERIOR TO AMERICAN PARKS, right? :rolleyes:

You don't need to worry one second about not knowing much Japanese for a trip to Tokyo Disneyland. I was quite surprised that all major signage is in English, and all CM's knew at least a few basic words in English. Some CM's were quite fluent in English, and they were always rushed in to help serve us whenever we'd show up in any facility. (The group I was with all looked typically American.)

In fact, I received such fabulously gracious and amazingly wonderful service during my trip to Tokyo Disney Resort last fall that I cancelled plans to visit Walt Disney World for a week this November. Instead, I'm returning to Japan for 10 days with 3 days at Tokyo Disney Resort. :sohappy: I may not go back to Walt Disney World again, or at least for quite some time. Tokyo Disney Resort won my vacation business.

The Japanese are so good at service that you will be amazed at how superior they are at operating a Disney theme park. They outshine the American CM's in every category, and I now find it difficult to put up with the lowered expectations at American Disney parks. That's the only danger to visiting Tokyo Disney Resort; they'll spoil you and leave you feeling underwhelmed the next time you visit an American park. You've been warned!

As for downtown Tokyo, the same basics applied. There were fewer English speaking service staff in some of the smaller Japanese restaurants or stores, but again it was never a problem. In a McDonalds in Shinjuku, which happened to be the most gleamingly clean McDonalds we'd ever seen, the manager rushed over as we walked in and presented a laminated menu in English with a big smile and a bow. Fun! Starbucks outside our hotel was a great way to start each morning, and I've never seen a more beautifully run Starbucks in my life, and I'm from Seattle originally! And again, lacking Japanese language skills was never a problem, especially at the tourist spots or big department stores. I even lost my subway ticket needed to exit the station going to the Imperial Palace and faced the daunting task of going up to an older gentleman staffing the very busy information kiosk to try and figure out what I should do. And what do you know but he spoke English and promptly issued me a replacement ticket for free and with no questions asked! (I used to live in Boston, and I can't even imagine a subway worker there making eye contact with me, let alone immediately issuing a free replacement ticket to me with a smile and a bow.) At our three star business hotel in Shinjuku catering to Japanese businessmen all staff from bellhops to deskclerks to bartenders spoke English quite well.

Ooh! And one morning in the elevator at the Disneyland Hilton this perfect little Japanese family got in the elevator with me and this adorable little girl about five years old looked up at me as this big doofy American guy who hadn't had his coffee yet. She looked up at her Mom and said a few words in Japanese, her Mom smiled at her daughter and nodded, and the little girl looked back up at me and said in beautifully accented English "Good Morning Sir!". I just about fell over! When I wished her back a "Happy Halloween!", that entire elevator was all smiles and giggles. (The Japanese love Halloween for some reason.)

And as we were checking out of the Disneyland Hilton this bellhop that was helping us get our bags ready for the airport bus brought out his English/Japanese translation dictionary from his jacket and came over to us and pointed out to the Japanese Garden outside the hotel. He said, very carefully, "In the autumn, the dragonflies swarm in the garden!". And sure enough, as we looked out there, we saw dozens of dragonflies flying all over the perfectly manicured trees and shrubs. This young man was so happy to point out a seasonal Japanese treat that he thought we should see before we flew home, and he needed to check his dictionary to get the unusual nouns and verbs right, but darnit he went out of his way to mention this to us! And we were thrilled not only at the sight of the dragonflies, but of the care and courtesy this young bellhop had for his guests regardless of the language spoken. I'm sure Conrad Hilton was looking down from heaven and beaming with pride.

Can you tell I was won over by the Japanese hospitality? And on top of it all they operate the most well run Disney Resort you'll ever experience. I can't wait to go back to Japan!
 

drduck

New Member
tp2000 a quick question

So, which park did you like the best? I have been to Tokyo Disneyland before, and loved the park. I have never been to DisneySea, but will be there in early August. I have a four-year-old, and a two-year-old. Both of them are really excited. What did you think of Sea? How were the attractions? Do they have babyswap?

I am ready to go.

Domo.

PS. The japanese are simply amazing! It is the single most gracious country I have ever visited.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Well, keep in mind that I don't have kids and the group I went to Japan with are all childless adults as well. But....

It's a real toss up. If your kids are into the cutesy-Disney-Princesses-Mickey scene, than Disneyland will probably be the best bet. But if your kids can deal with some darker stuff like Pirates or Haunted Mansion or Splash Mountain, then DisneySea is likely the best bet.

DisneySea has some cutesy in it, especially the Mermaid Lagoon area. I found Mermaid Lagoon wonderful simply from a design/architecture perspective. But it's full of the "kiddy rides" and all wonderfully themed to Little Mermaid. If you've got boys who are into cars/trains/boats then DisneySea would also likely be a hit because of the trolleys, cars and big boats you can journey on. There's also a nifty submarine ride that boys would like if they were okay with darkened environments. They also have a very, very cool play area called "Fortress Explorations" which is like a medeival castle version of Tom Sawyer's Island with all sorts of science museum type activities and castle stuff to play with and explore.

Where DisneySea doesn't measure up to Disneyland for the kids is in their shows/parades. DisneySea has several great lagoon shows, but they all seem aimed for teens and older. The night lagoon show in particular is almost adult themed as it has the scary fire god and the elegant water goddess doing a mating dance type thing, and you can easily read into some slightly sexual symbolism. Obviously that would all go over the head of a 4 year old, but it's not exactly Minnie Mouse doing the twist on a big pink parade float, you know? :lol:

The stage shows we saw in DisneySea were also very mature, with lots of modern dance and impressive fire and water effects and acrobatics. We skipped the more traditional Character Revues they have, but there's quite a few entertainment offerings in DisneySea that would likely bore the under 6 crowd.

Several of the E Tickets at DisneySea have height requirements. Indy, which is just as good as the Disneyland original is 46 inches. Journey To The Center Of The Earth had a height requirement too, I'm thinking it was 40 inches. And there's a new roller coaster and the StormRider motion simulator that also had height requirements. They all do rider switch passes.

About the only E Tickets at DisneySea made for the whole family were the 20,000 Leagues submarine ride and the excellent Sinbads Seven Voyages boat ride which is sort of a cross between It's A Small World and Pirates of the Caribbean, all themed to the stories of Sinbad, if you can imagine that. Aquatopia, a silly C Ticket boat ride, would be a big hit with kids. We all went on in three seperate times, just because it made us laugh so much! It's just such a pointless little ride, but it's got this amazing technology that guides the "boats" around the course. But it's very dorky, and we just laughed the whole time we were on it. Kids would love it even more.

There's plenty of fun to be had at DisneySea. And it's clearly the best "second gate" Disney has done since Epcot opened in 1982. There's much more to be found at DisneySea than at MGM or Animal Kingdom or California Adventure. So unless your kids are diehard Princess fans, or don't do well on rides that are darkened or a little loud, I'm sure you would all find things to enjoy at DisneySea.

The CM's at DisneySea are just as excellent as the Disneyland CM's. In fact, in the three days we were there we didn't encounter one single CM who wasn't at least in the "very good" category. It seemed the entire property was staffed by CM's who graduated in the top 10% of their class. And then about once an hour we'd encounter a CM who just went over the top and did some clever little thing that totally made our day. We were simply astounded at the service level the Tokyo CM's provide.

It was so impressive, it made the group I was with cancel the tentative plans some of us had to visit WDW in November '06. Instead, we're going back to Tokyo Disney in early '07. Buh-bye Florida, you've just been outclassed by Tokyo. :wave:
 

WDWFantasmic

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TP2000 said:
Several of the E Tickets at DisneySea have height requirements. Indy, which is just as good as the Disneyland original is 46 inches.
:wave:

Which parts of their Indy did you prefer over Disneyland's? How did you like their queue?
 

CSUFSteve

Active Member
I'd agree that overall, if you only have one day, you should see DisneySea. The theming is just so amazingly incredible and, assuming you like details as a Disney fan, it's interesting to see their sub technology (20k Leagues) and Journey to the Center of the Earth.

That said, I *do* think you should dash over to TDL and ride their Pooh. It is SOOOO different than the U.S. versions and vastly superior. Their Pooh cost $100 million and features a new ride controls system that's also used in Aquatopia at TDS. The ride vehicles move in seemingly random fashion, with new track. When you go into Tigger's bounce room, the whole FLOOR actually bounces. It's so much more effective than MK's and even more effective than DL's. It actually made me giggle out loud, it really was terrific fun. And the Heffalumps and Woozles room... WOW. There's a certain amount of randomness sorta like Indy where you don't always go to the same place each time. It's SO much fun and definitely worth the trip to TDL by itself. When I went in 2001, the line JUST TO GET A FASTPASS for Pooh stretched all the way to Cinderella's Castle. It was frickin' huge. The standby line was regularly 2 hours so definitely get a fastpass if you can, just be prepared.

You should probably also check at Mickey Mouse Revue (transplanted from FL for TDL's opening). It's so funny to hear it in Japanese. Same with Bear Band. If you want to see the worst version of Tiki Room ever, see Japan's. It's worse than MK's and certainly worse than DL's original. The Western River Railroad is also interesting since it's not around the whole park. And if you've never been to DL, their Pirates is definitely worth seeing if you want to see a carbon copy of Disneyland's pre-Sparrow version and eat at Blue Bayou.

At TDS, it's mostly about the wonder of taking it all in visually. There are also some great restaurants there and, as I said, the visuals just blow you away. At least for me, everytime I thought TDS couldn't possible sustain the detail, it did. I also enjoyed Sinbad (and they are actually AA figures, not just animated dolls like Small World), Mermaid, Indy (the ride is the same, but the queue is different. I think I like ours at DL better but only b/c there is a story told in our queue whereas TDS's is mostly just some cool visuals. And it's basically just one major room with the queue intertwining everywhere. A cool room, but just one, vs Disney's many different archeaological "chambers".

And, as another person said, I had no issues with English. It's true *some* didn't understand, but there was always someone in the location that did. I never had a problem getting around anywhere in Tokyo and the signs to Tokyo Disney Resort, from Tokyo, are also in English. Once you get to the resort, all the signage has an English translation. Service is definitely exceptional. We stayed at Disney's Ambassador and had some great shots of backstage TDL.
 

WDWFantasmic

New Member
CSUFSteve said:
Indy (the ride is the same, but the queue is different. I think I like ours at DL better but only b/c there is a story told in our queue whereas TDS's is mostly just some cool visuals. And it's basically just one major room with the queue intertwining everywhere. A cool room, but just one, vs Disney's many different archeaological "chambers".

Actually, the queue for TDS's Indy does have many chambers as well.
Aside from the main cathedral like chamber, there are narrow catacombs, as well as this cavern with a reflecting mirror type object.

I think the order of the queue was something like this.

Hall of Faces
Antichamber
Pyramid Chamber
Narrow pathways
Reflecting Mirror Cavern
Catacombs
Indy's Office
Film Room
Crossover
Station
 

stackridge

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I glanced through the postings quickly but could not see mention of...Braviseamo! This has to be one of the best night shows and it takes place on the harbour of Disney Seas. There are video snippets on on YouTube. We have met several American cast members and have to agree with those who have visited Tokyo and say Disney Seas is the best Disney park in the world! The Tower Of Terror may even be open in September.
 

Stitch_PR

New Member
Disney Sea All The Way

Hi, I went to Tokyo last year and I visited both parks. Being a Disney Fan I loved them both, but, if you have only 1 Day, you MUST go to Tokyo Disney Sea. The park is a unique experience. It includes rides that are not available in any other park ( Journey to the Center of The earth, 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, Raging River, Etc...) and is very delightful to see all the little details. There are some rides that are on japanese, but they are visually entertaining so you will not notice any difference on enyoing them. I have pictures posted, maybe yu would like to get a peek and see what to expect. Let me know if you need any more info...:wave:
 

WDWFantasmic

New Member
Several of the E Tickets at DisneySea have height requirements. Indy, which is just as good as the Disneyland original is 46 inches. Journey To The Center Of The Earth had a height requirement too, I'm thinking it was 40 inches. And there's a new roller coaster and the StormRider motion simulator that also had height requirements. They all do rider switch passes.


Journey to the Center of the Earth has a 46 inch height requirement. Definitely do not miss this attraction, as it is the best ride at Tokyo DisneySea!
 

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