News Disneyland modifies mask policy - UPDATE 7/28/21

[TP2000]

So relatively better, compared to places whose vaccination rates are arguably appalling.

Still not what I would refer to as "highly vaccinated".

Sorry, quoting you again, because it reminds me it would be helpful for a late August update on how the 50 nifty states are doing. Just a nice point of reference to draw from on this data and hard facts.

Here's a sampling, from top 3 to bottom 3, with the two states with Disneylands and the state everyone loves to hate (Texas) thrown in for fun because I heard Disney was buying up property outside of Dallas. Look at New England! Go Patriots!

#1 Vermont = 67.5% Fully Vaccinated
#2 Massachussetts = 65.5% Fully Vaccinated
#3 Connecticut = 65.3% Fully Vaccinated
#16 California = 55.2% Fully Vaccinated
#21 Florida = 51.9% Fully Vaccinated
#34 Texas = 46.6% Fully Vaccinated
#48 Wyoming = 38.2% Fully Vaccinated
#49 Mississippi = 37.3% Fully Vaccinated
#50 Alabama = 36.8% Fully Vaccinated

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[Californian Elitist]

You are more than welcome to do that. I will honor your right to do that. Mask up for the rest of your life and never show your face in public or emote to another human ever again, that's fine with me.

But I'm vaccinated. Everyone I know is vaccinated. So I don't wear a mask any longer. I believe in vaccines and in science.

I said boys and girls, referring to students.

I’m well aware you don’t wear masks.

 

[TP2000]

I said boys and girls, referring to students.

I’m well aware you don’t wear masks.

Oh! My mistake. You're talking about the UCSD kids I saw this afternoon? Well, they weren't masked.

I do have to wonder what the UC system policy is. Obviously UCLA has to wear masks because it's an LA County mandate. But UC Santa Barbara? UC Irvine? UC San Diego?

I'm going to check on that. There is no statewide mask mandate in California. Sacramento has gone silent on mandates this summer. But what about the massive UC system? Hmm... I'm going to Google.... Well, a quick Google search turned up a patchwork quilt of mandates and rules on various campuses. But I can't find evidence of an over-riding policy from the UC board of regents.

Whatever is happening on campus at UCSD, the kids are taking them off when they go on Target runs. I can easily imagine the keg parties and sociables this September will be just as legendary as always. You can't drink beer with a mask on.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Oh! My mistake. You're talking about the UCSD kids I saw this afternoon? Well, they weren't masked.

I do have to wonder what the UC system policy is. Obviously UCLA has to wear masks because it's an LA County mandate. But UC Santa Barbara? UC Irvine? UC San Diego?

I'm going to check on that. There is no statewide mask mandate in California. Sacramento has gone silent on mandates this summer. But what about the massive UC system? Hmm... I'm going to Google.... Well, a quick Google search turned up a patchwork quilt of mandates and rules on various campuses. But I can't find evidence of an over-riding policy from the UC board of regents.

Whatever is happening on campus at UCSD, the kids are taking them off when they go on Target runs. I can easily imagine the keg parties and sociables this September will be just as legendary as always. You can't drink beer with a mask on.

Nope, wasn’t referring to them either.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

True. A 58% score is an F in school. But on the bell curve we grade vaccines on, 58% and rising is pretty darn good. It's above average in California, and well above average on a global scale, to be honest.

United Kingdom = 63.0% Fully Vaccinated
Orange County = 57.7% Fully Vaccinated
European Union = 57.7% Fully Vaccinated
Sweden = 52.2% Fully Vaccinated
Switzerland = 51.4% Fully Vaccinated
Japan = 42.9% Fully Vaccinated
South Korea = 24.9% Fully Vaccinated
Australia = 24.8% Fully Vaccinated
New Zealand = 21.3% Fully Vaccinated

The OC and the EU are tied as of yesterday! Go OC, beat EU!

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

In what universe is the bell curve an appropriate way to assess vaccination rates?

 

[TP2000]

In what universe is the bell curve an appropriate way to assess vaccination rates?

Heh, good question! But it is what it is. It's unlikely any nation will ever get to full 100% vaccination, so a bell curve it is.

Vermont is currently the winner of the 50 states, but "winning" means 67%. California is barely in the top third, but only scores 55%.

Japan just hosted a Summer Olympics, but still is only at 43% three weeks after the games ended.

Of the countries with a population of at least 1 Million, less than a third the size of Orange County, Singapore is currently in the lead. But Singapore, with the highest vaccination rate of such countries, only sits at 76% this week. That's a solid C grade. Not even a C+.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[lazyboy97o]

In what universe is the bell curve an appropriate way to assess vaccination rates?

A clueless one.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

One side providing factual numbers and lighthearted commentary... The other posting low blows at the population of OC and childish misspelled snowwhite memes... Huh.

Interesting how TP's words and comment style are being attacked, not the data he provides.

 

[Californian Elitist]

That wasn’t a low blow, it was a high one.

 

[SoCalMort]

One side providing factual numbers and lighthearted commentary... The other posting low blows at the population of OC

If you have problems about posting "low blows at the population of OC" take it up with the author of the actual content or dispute the facts stated.

I've never accused people of racism. In fact, I take it rather seriously.

Link to above

.... and childish misspelled snowwhite memes... Huh.

As you can see from the last line in the above clip, I'm horrable at proofing my own work but do admit my mistakes. Meme corrected. Thanks for reading carefully.

Interesting how TP's words and comment style are being attacked,

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Link to above

not the data he provides.

Because they are straw men stats that have nothing to do with the issue at hand. But if one were to truly believe in science....

Can Vaccinated People Transmit COVID-19 to Others?

Are vaccinated people still at risk for becoming infected or spreading COVID-19? Find out from an infectious disease specialist.

health.clevelandclinic.org

Edited last line to clarify.

 

[SoCalMort]

Pediatric Hospitals Are At Their Breaking Points as COVID-19 Surges

It's a tragic new chapter of the pandemic

time.com

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Such people don't care about Covid or those at risk, they only care about making their political enemies look bad.

Yup. People on here doing nothing but scanning the posts to jump on a chance to toss in a meme or cute wittle 'tee hee' comment.

 

[TP2000]

Covid is such a boring topic now. Who cares what Florida's doing? Unless you live there, it's not your concern. Focus on your neighborhood and getting vaccines to those who don't have access to them, like black communities. Anyone who rattles off "gEt VaCcInAtEd" on the internet, attacking those thousands of millions away, but isn't helping members of black and Latino communities in their own area get vaccinated is a fraud and should be disregarded. Such people don't care about Covid or those at risk, they only care about making their political enemies look bad.

This is a very good point. Covid is a local story now. In California we know exactly who has, and has not, been vaccinated. The California Department of Public Health and the giant county governments break it down by race and zip code. We know exactly who the people are who are under-vaccinated and exactly where they live. Los Angeles County (population 10.1 Million!) does this demographic tracking of vaccines very well.

It's time to get out into those exact neighborhoods and get the under-vaccinated communities vaccinated.

The two comfortable zip codes that I live in have very high vaccination rates. I know no one in my family or social circles that is not vaccinated, and hasn't been fully vaccinated for months now. I already know three people who got their booster shots last week, after being vaccinated last January/February. Some zip codes and communities are very different right now.

Here's the latest data from massive Los Angeles County, which aligns with both the broader State and Federal statistics on the vaccinated and the non-vaccinated.

Asians = 78.8% Fully Vaccinated
Whites = 68.6% Fully Vaccinated
Latinos = 58.8% Fully Vaccinated
Blacks = 49.4% Fully Vaccinated

And the LA County zip code map hasn't changed much at all over this summer, and also mirrors broader California statewide trends. Wealthy zip codes along the coast are some of the most fully vaccinated places on the planet, with some of those zip codes at 85% or higher vaccination rates. The working class zip codes of color that are inland just a few miles collapse into vaccination rates barely half that. The racially diverse middle and upper-middle class zip codes in the inland hills and valleys of LA County are not quite as highly vaccinated as the wealthy beachside zips, but they generally have vaccination rates at 75% or higher.

LA County COVID-19 Vaccine Dashboard - LA County Department of Public Health

publichealth.lacounty.gov

 

[lazyboy97o]

Covid is such a boring topic now. Who cares what Florida's doing? Unless you live there, it's not your concern. Focus on your neighborhood and getting vaccines to those who don't have access to them, like black communities. Anyone who rattles off "gEt VaCcInAtEd" on the internet, attacking those thousands of miles away, but isn't helping members of black and Latino communities in their own area get vaccinated is a fraud and should be disregarded. Such people don't care about Covid or those at risk, they only care about making their political enemies look bad.

What is happening in Florida, where people are being denied care and Orlando might not be able to treat the water, could happen in your own neighborhood. “It can’t happen here” is just more denial.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

What is happening in Florida, where people are being denied care and Orlando might not be able to treat the water, could happen in your own neighborhood. “It can’t happen here” is just more denial.

Exactly. This is something that goes back to the early days of COVID. We saw what was happening in other parts of the world. This was a warning. This was advance notice.

Vaccination rates are not high enough to handle the Delta variant. People should pay attention to the dumpster fire that is Florida and be tripping over themselves to get into a vaccine clinic.

This isn't about trashing Florida, it's about seeing a worst case scenario and taking steps to stop it from happening elsewhere.

 

[lazyboy97o]

No one said that? I'm literally advocating for you to go out and help blacks and Latinos get vaccinated instead of yelling into a computer screen as if you're doing something helpful. Posting on a Disneyland forum about how "muh evil red states" and "anti vax drumpf voters are killing grandma children" doesn't do any good. If you actually care, go help vaccinate the unvaccinated communities in your region, which are primarily black and Latino neighborhoods. If you're not actively contributing but still feel the need to criticize others, I can only make the conclusion you're a fraud and a liar who lives only to hate and does not actually care about others.

So because people aren’t telling you the details of their personal life it is wrong for them to call out misinformation and lies?

 

[SoCalMort]

Covid is such a boring topic now. Who cares what Florida's doing? Unless you live there, it's not your concern...

This is a very good point. Covid is a local story now.

My bad. Thank God the thing stayed in Wuhan.

 

[SoCalMort]

Or are there people in your community who have not been vaccinated you could be helping instead?

You mean like wearing a mask so as not to transmit the virus to someone else who could transmit it to child who can't be vaccinated?

Excuse the "virtual signaling"

 

[TP2000]

My bad. Thank God the thing stayed in Wuhan.

Careful, you'll be accused of being a racist. Or a Xenophobe. Or maybe even an anti-Communist.

What I meant was that Covid is now everywhere. It's not unique to any one place. The story on Covid now is how it is being handled locally, by local officials in oftentimes radically different ways. What's happening in San Francisco now regarding Covid response is very different than what's happening now in Savannah.

When you walk down Melrose Avenue in west LA, everyone has a mask on and is happy to virtue signal about it even though they are outdoors and just walking their dog for 20 minutes. But when you look at the live stream of beautiful downtown Jackson Hole, Wyoming, absolutely no one has a mask on and it could be August, 2019.

Covid and it's ability to impact us is now a local story in late summer, 2021. There's no national strategy or shared experience going on any longer. Covid and it's response, or complete lack thereof, has turned into a local story.

 

[TP2000]

Just a few hours after I posted this afternoon, Los Angeles County updated its vaccination data for the week. Here is the latest as of 8/26/21, which updates the data from this afternoon that was dated 8/19/21. The trends have not changed in the past week. There are still demographics and certain zip codes that remain under-vaccinated, and demographics and zip codes that remain very highly vaccinated.

Los Angeles County (population 10.1 Million)
64% Fully Vaccinated
Asians = 79.0% Fully Vaccinated
Whites = 68.8% Fully Vaccinated
Latinos = 58.8% Fully Vaccinated
Blacks = 49.7% Fully Vaccinated

LA County Daily COVID-19 Data - LA County Department of Public Health

www.publichealth.lacounty.gov