I see that California is now bagless, grocery stores etc. How does this impact Disneyland? Do they have to follow the same law?
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Disneyland and the California Bagless Law
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TP2000
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No. Disneyland doesn't operate supermarkets or grocery stores. The law doesn't apply to department stores, clothing stores, boutiques, gift shops, hardware stores, most big box stores, specialty shops, etc.
It's just applies to grocery stores and supermarkets, or big box stores like Target that have a sizeable grocery or packaged food department.
It's just applies to grocery stores and supermarkets, or big box stores like Target that have a sizeable grocery or packaged food department.
TP2000
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My pleasure. During the cocktail hour on a weeknight, it's likely I can provide a quick reply.
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Are you sure TP? I thought that any retail store in the state was subject to the law.
TP2000
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Nope. I've been doing Christmas shopping this weekend and got all sorts of bags from non-food stores. From cheap plastic bags at Best Buy, to sturdy embossed paper bags at REI and Nordstrom, to a glossy and very swanky heavy bag with thick rope handles at an upscale book store. No clerk asked me if I wanted a bag, they just provided them without cost. Nordstrom and the book store (Assouline at South Coast Plaza) also wrapped the items in tissue paper before putting them in the bags.
At any store that doesn't sell groceries, the bags continue to be free and unregulated.
Interestingly, the Whole Foods near me continues to just automatically bag my groceries in paper bags, with additional insulated bags for steaks and ice cream, and they aren't charging for them. Maybe they just haven't updated their registers or something?
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OK, then I wonder if the bag laws in San Francisco are more stringent. Every store here - from Bloomingdale's to Whole Foods - asks if you want a bag before closing the sale.
disney4life2008
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Grocery stores will give you a bag for additional fee. I went to dollar tree to get things for my stay in los Angeles and was upset i didnt get bags. The lady then explained i could purchase bags for 5 cents or bring my own.
disney4life2008
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But do they charge you? I recall Ralph's asking if i wanted a bag
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TP2000
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It might just be a local cultural thing, as San Francisco is famous for worrying about things like shopping bags. But I can't imagine Bloomies is charging for bags in NorCal but isn't in SoCal, even if individual shopclerks might do things differently at check out.
Here in Orange County the bags are still being just given out automatically. I also bought a few things at Crate&Barrel this weekend and got a bag. Just checked the receipt and there was no charge for it. I'm going to the Container Store in Costa Mesa shortly, I will dutifully report back tonight on how the bag process works.
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According to the Checkout Bag Ordinance at SFEnvirionment.org:
The City and County of San Francisco amended Chapter 17 of the Environment Code, extending the plastic checkout bag ban to include all retail stores on 10/1/2012 and all food establishments starting on 10/1/2013. The Checkout Bag Ordinance also requires a charge on allowed checkout bags (compostable bags, recycled paper bags, or reusable bags). Shoppers can avoid the charge by bringing their own bag.
I had assumed that this was a statewide provision. I guess not.
The City and County of San Francisco amended Chapter 17 of the Environment Code, extending the plastic checkout bag ban to include all retail stores on 10/1/2012 and all food establishments starting on 10/1/2013. The Checkout Bag Ordinance also requires a charge on allowed checkout bags (compostable bags, recycled paper bags, or reusable bags). Shoppers can avoid the charge by bringing their own bag.
- City law prohibits all single-use checkout plastic bags
- Mandatory charge of 10¢ per checkout bag provided
I had assumed that this was a statewide provision. I guess not.
TP2000
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Ah, there we go! Thank you for figuring that out for us, Hans. It's a San Francisco only thing. Like cable cars and Beach Blanket Babylon.
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Deleted member 107043
And sourdough bread. Don't forget that!
In all seriousness I wouldn't be surprised if a stricter version of the legislation is expanded across the state at some point, including DLR. SF was the first city in the US to initiate a charge for plastic bags for large grocery stores and chain pharmacies in 2007, and look where things stand now.
Curious Constance
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My city has a plastic bag ban for all stores (Oregon) but next city over doesn't restrict them at all. I've learned to do without them and bring my own a lot time.
TP2000
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I went down to South Coast Plaza tonight for some follow-up Christmas shopping. Crate&Barrel tissue-wrapped and boxed and taped and bagged everything I bought, no question asked. Nordstrom tissue-wrapped and bagged everything, then asked if I needed any extra gift boxes, bows and tissue, with a smile.
At the Container Store I bought all my wrapping paper, ribbon, and gift accesories. The saleslady at the checkout lane gushed over my choices of wrapping paper and accessories... "It's so rare to see a man with such good taste!" and I smiled politely but had to stifle the urge to say "Honey, wrapping paper isn't the only thing I have taste in."
But she put the half dozen rolls of paper in long plastic bags, then tissue-wrapped some of the silver accessories and put all the rest of the ribbon and boxes and other stuff in two big thick paper shopping bags with twine handles. No questions asked, no charge.
So yeah, in Orange County it's only grocery stores that have to charge for shopping bags. Disneyland is unaffected.
At the Container Store I bought all my wrapping paper, ribbon, and gift accesories. The saleslady at the checkout lane gushed over my choices of wrapping paper and accessories... "It's so rare to see a man with such good taste!" and I smiled politely but had to stifle the urge to say "Honey, wrapping paper isn't the only thing I have taste in."
But she put the half dozen rolls of paper in long plastic bags, then tissue-wrapped some of the silver accessories and put all the rest of the ribbon and boxes and other stuff in two big thick paper shopping bags with twine handles. No questions asked, no charge.
So yeah, in Orange County it's only grocery stores that have to charge for shopping bags. Disneyland is unaffected.
jmuboy
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Having just returned from HKDL, where HK has a plastic bag ban for all businesses, HKDL and all other businesses change about $0.15 (US dollar) for each plastic bag. I would see DL doing this if and when - by law- they had to.
Curious Constance
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You should have shown her your WDWMagic screen pic if she likes fancy. I bet you buy the fanciest Christmas presents ever!I went down to South Coast Plaza tonight for some follow-up Christmas shopping. Crate&Barrel tissue-wrapped and boxed and taped and bagged everything I bought, no question asked. Nordstrom tissue-wrapped and bagged everything, then asked if I needed any extra gift boxes, bows and tissue, with a smile.
At the Container Store I bought all my wrapping paper, ribbon, and gift accesories. The saleslady at the checkout lane gushed over my choices of wrapping paper and accessories... "It's so rare to see a man with such good taste!" and I smiled politely but had to stifle the urge to say "Honey, wrapping paper isn't the only thing I have taste in."
But she put the half dozen rolls of paper in long plastic bags, then tissue-wrapped some of the silver accessories and put all the rest of the ribbon and boxes and other stuff in two big thick paper shopping bags with twine handles. No questions asked, no charge.
So yeah, in Orange County it's only grocery stores that have to charge for shopping bags. Disneyland is unaffected.
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Deleted member 107043
"It's so rare to see a man with such good taste!" and I smiled politely but had to stifle the urge to say "Honey, wrapping paper isn't the only thing I have taste in."
Ha!
TP2000
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They're just little items and baubles; gloves, art books, barware, etc. But they all get wrapped nicely. Presentation is everything.