Disney World installs anti-terrorist barricades

s25843

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Disney World installs anti-terrorist barricades

BY SEAN MUSSENDEN

Orlando Sentinel


ORLANDO - (KRT) - Walt Disney World has installed high-security, anti-terrorist barricades similar to those protecting the White House, U.S. embassies and nuclear-waste depots.

The hydraulically powered steel barricades block the service entrances of the giant resort's four theme parks and were apparently designed to stop a 20,000-pound truck bomb traveling 70 miles per hour.

The dozen or more yellow-and-black barricades are so state-of-the-art that the manufacturer recently shipped the same model to Baghdad to guard the new U.S. embassy there.

Disney did not install the barricades in response to a specific terrorist threat against the parks, spokeswoman Jacquee Polak said Friday. Rather, they are part of Disney's continually evolving "security plan."

"We're living in a time of heightened security, and we're continuing to undertake strict security measures," she said.

Since the 2001 attacks in New York and Washington, D.C., homeland security officials have warned that Disney's iconic theme parks could provide an inviting target for terrorists. While Disney has routinely declined to discuss the steps it has taken to increase security at its parks, some measures have become public. For example, last year the company persuaded Congress to close the airspace over Disney World to low-flying aircraft. And just last month, Disney began after-hours testing of metal detectors at the main entrances to its parks.

The Orlando Sentinel learned of the barricades' installation as construction work on some of the systems was wrapping up. Friday was the first day the Sentinel observed any of the barriers in use as a matter of routine.

Pollack said construction work on the barricades began several months ago. They have recently become operational at all the parks, she said.

On Friday afternoon, only the barricades at Animal Kingdom appeared to be in use - three standing full-time at roughly a 30-degree angle. A long line of Disney work vehicles and outside delivery trucks waited as a security guard checked identification and, in some cases, searched vehicles.

Once appeased, the guard activated a hydraulic pump that lowered the lane-wide barrier flush to the road. As soon as the vehicle passed through, the barricade shot to attention in a matter of seconds.

For years, Disney has performed security checks at its service entrances, Pollack said. The new barricades, she said, lend a greater degree of efficiency and order to the screening process.

But the barricade that Disney apparently chose - the Delta Scientific Corp. DSC501 "Advanced counter-terrorism barrier system" - was designed to do far more than create orderly vehicle lines.

It is perhaps the most secure and most popular barricade on the market today, said Delta Senior Vice President David Dickinson, exceeding U.S. State Department and Defense Department safety requirements.

Delta mainly supplies the federal government and the U.S. military. It has installed barricades at U.S. embassies in Jordan and Yemen - and soon, Iraq. One of its barricades protects the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C. - home of Vice President ________ Cheney. Another protects a nuclear fuel-reprocessing plant in Idaho.

Similar barricades, though not designed by Delta, protect the White House.

Since Sept. 11, 2001, an increasing number of private enterprises - Fortune 500 corporations, banks and, in a few cases, museums - are turning to the DSC501 to protect their properties, he said. The barricades cost about $30,000 apiece.

"For private companies, it's primarily asset protection. If you have a landmark asset to protect, any attack could hurt your business," Dickinson said.

According to the Valencia, Calif.-based company, it has supplied counter-terrorist barricades to more than 160 U.S. embassies and consulates in 130-plus countries. In the United States alone, Delta has secured more than 110 federal buildings.

Dickinson would not confirm that he had supplied Disney with its barricades, and Disney would not identify its supplier. However, Dickinson estimated that his company builds 80 percent to 90 percent of all the high-security barricades on the market today; a picture of the DSC501 on Delta's web site appears to be identical to Disney's barricades; and the facade of Disney's barricades are equipped with five large chains, a design Dickinson said no other barricade company employs.

"Disney is ahead of the curve on this. Most companies will do this eventually," said David Cid, a former FBI terrorism specialist and now president of a security consulting firm in Edmond, Okla.

"The concern here obviously is truck bombs and car bombs, the weapon of choice we've seen in the past" for creating maximum damage, he said.

Theme parks are more appealing as potential terrorist targets than many large companies that don't have the same large crowds or high public profile, Cid said.

"Terrorists look to kill lots of people at large public venues. Plus it's a national symbol," Cid said of Disney. "An incident there would have an effect on the national economy."

Jerry W. Jackson of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report.
 

mickey04

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Hmm... very interesting. Its a good idea I suppose, but I would really like to see what these things look like. I hope they aren't too visually destractive. Anyone have any pictures?
 
Originally posted by mickey04
Hmm... very interesting. Its a good idea I suppose, but I would really like to see what these things look like. I hope they aren't too visually destractive. Anyone have any pictures?

They are mainly being used in backstage areas that won't be seen by the guests. You can catch a glimpse of them if you ride the bus to AK or if you find yourself behind MK. I was told they will stop a semi truck moving at a speed of 50 mph and they pop up with enough force to flip very heavy military vehicles.
 

PhotoDave219

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These are the same pop-up barriers that are in front of the White House, Pentagon, FBI Bldg, Capitol and on Constitution & Independence Aves in DC.

Its really not a huge deal. A guest will never see them.
 

Dayma

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Nice to see that they are worried about security but not actually putting anything in the guests view..
 

oochr1soo

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im just so amazed at the lack of security for the guests.. their bag check is a joke.. i watched them just unzip and peak and then ok close it up.. you could have something buryied and they would even know.. it to me is just way to easy of a place to do somehting if someone wanted to.. they should be worrying about the guests i think.. other stuff is great but the parks are lacking..

chris
 

pan11435

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im just so amazed at the lack of security for the guests.. their bag check is a joke.. i watched them just unzip and peak and then ok close it up.. you could have something buryied and they would even know.. it to me is just way to easy of a place to do somehting if someone wanted to.. they should be worrying about the guests i think.. other stuff is great but the parks are lacking..

I can assure you that these pop-up barriers are for the guests. On top of that there are many security measures in place that the average guest does not know about. It would be pointless to thoroughly search everyone, if they really want to get something in they will find a way. The bag checks are purely for show, and very minute compared to the entire security operation.
 

Shaman

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Originally posted by s25843
"Theme parks are more appealing as potential terrorist targets than many large companies that don't have the same large crowds or high public profile, Cid said.

'Terrorists look to kill lots of people at large public venues. Plus it's a national symbol,' Cid said of Disney. 'An incident there would have an effect on the national economy.'"

That was a nice way of painting a target on Disney and saying "HIT HERE"...its sad the world we live in nowadays...

I guess its nice to see Disney taking some more precautions...

:(
 

oochr1soo

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Originally posted by pan11435
I can assure you that these pop-up barriers are for the guests. On top of that there are many security measures in place that the average guest does not know about. It would be pointless to thoroughly search everyone, if they really want to get something in they will find a way. The bag checks are purely for show, and very minute compared to the entire security operation.

well thats sad if its just for show.. cause waht if someone comes through with a bomb strapped to themselves and kills hundreds of people.. they just might wake up then.. its like they say.. its a prime target if someone wanted to do somehting big.. and the fact that there is practically zero security at the park entrances is not very reassuring.. airports check thousands of people per day and disney should be able to do it as well.. .. yea things might still get in if htey want but at least theyre doing something..

chris
 

pan11435

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well thats sad if its just for show.. cause waht if someone comes through with a bomb strapped to themselves and kills hundreds of people.. they just might wake up then.. its like they say.. its a prime target if someone wanted to do somehting big.. and the fact that there is practically zero security at the park entrances is not very reassuring.. airports check thousands of people per day and disney should be able to do it as well.. .. yea things might still get in if htey want but at least theyre doing something..

Like I said, believe me there is a lot more security throughout the parks and at the entrances then you know. And yes airports do screen thousands a day, but think about how early you need to arrive at an airport. Would you like to arrive two hours early to get in the park. The other problem is that airports screen thousands of people over the coarse of an entire day. Most Disney visitor come in during a span of just a few hours in the early morning. Airport security could not handle the amount of people coming in to Magic Kingdom at 9:00am.
 

Tom

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Originally posted by oochr1soo
well thats sad if its just for show.. cause waht if someone comes through with a bomb strapped to themselves and kills hundreds of people.. they just might wake up then.. its like they say.. its a prime target if someone wanted to do somehting big.. and the fact that there is practically zero security at the park entrances is not very reassuring.. airports check thousands of people per day and disney should be able to do it as well.. .. yea things might still get in if htey want but at least theyre doing something..

chris

Most security is for "show". Airports don't check nearly the number of people that WDW does every day. Somewhere between 50,000 and 70,000 people enter each park, every day. If they did a thorough check of every guest, you'd NEVER get in.

I just spent a week in Wash DC and saw the barricades. I also went to all the museums and government buildings (which still don't experience the number of guests that WDW does) and I had to empty my pockets and pass thru a metal detector every time. It would beep on almost every person and lines just backed up FOREVER! They also did "bag checks" where they simply just glance in them quickly.

The way all this helps protect us is just like if you stuck a sticker on your house window that says, 'Protected by ADT Alarm System". If a burgler comes to your window and sees that sticker, then looks at the house next door and sees that it doesn't have any stickers, he's going to break into THAT house over yours - guaranteed. Even if you don't have an acutal alarm system, and just have the stickers, it will serve as a deterrant!

The bag check may not do a thorough check of every bag, but between the metal detectors and the bag checks, it will deter the people with bad ideas in their mind from trying anything - because it's just too much effort and too much risk of getting caught.

The barricades and security booth guards will help deter people who think they can just drive into back entrances and blow the place up - it's just too much effort now.

No, none of these measures will protect us 100% - that's impossible without taking away all of our freedoms. They all just deter people from doing things because it is too risky. If someone wants to run thru the security tables, and jump the turstiles and blow up the parks, they CAN, but it will take an absolute psycho (like all the terrorists) to accomplish this, and most likely he will be noticed or caught before that happens.
 

CTXRover

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Originally posted by oochr1soo
well thats sad if its just for show.. cause waht if someone comes through with a bomb strapped to themselves and kills hundreds of people.. they just might wake up then.. its like they say.. its a prime target if someone wanted to do somehting big.. and the fact that there is practically zero security at the park entrances is not very reassuring.. airports check thousands of people per day and disney should be able to do it as well.. .. yea things might still get in if htey want but at least theyre doing something..

chris

At this point, the bag checks are probably more for show than "real" security...if you REALLY wanted to, under the current format of bag checks, the unfortunate truth is you could get by with something. Although security at Disney is not that of the White House or even airports, they have made progressive measures since 9/11 to improve security around the entire resort in addition to the more notiecable bag checks. Such things like replacing the yellow ponchos with clear ones (Disney claimed they were for helping find lost children and their parents....but just as or more likely to prevent easy hiding of stuff underneath), cement pillars that prevent any car from ever approaching the front gates of the parks, these new backstage barriers that are apparently the best in the biz, increased security at the entrance to all resorts, and even now the testing of metal detectors to be installed for random inspection of guests as they enter the theme parks.

Its sad that any such measure need to be taken, but that is the times we find ourselves. However they must find a medium that provides proper security without taking the "magic" of entering the parks away. Forcing everyone to go through metal detectors, X-ray scanners, open vehicle searches, etc., are probably some of the best ways for "real" secuirty....but it would also cause a disaster of a backup (remember....unlike airports where people come all day long...most people come to the parks in huge loads) and face it, how "magical" would that be?

These barricades are just another way of trying to enhance security as much as possible "behind the scenes" without taking away too much from the excitement that builds up inside folks as they enter the parks. I'm glad to see that where they are adding things like this, they are using the best.
 

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