News Disney World Hits All-Time High Revenue in Q3 2025, Strong Bookings Continue into Q4

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Touchdown

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Yeah, I don’t get the purists either, Florida/California parks are for th times of year I can’t go to other parks. So far APs and “room sales” has been enough, but eventually they will hit my ceiling, but they haven’t yet.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Aren't you the one who was just recently over in the other thread telling me that you are a Crescent Lake addict who has found himself around Seven Seas Lagoon a lot recently? Seems to me that for all your protestations, you apparently still spend a lot of time at Walt Disney World. Why not just enjoy it and stop trying to convince the rest of us we're getting a raw deal?
Right…this is the part where you find a post threatening to boycott LBV…or telling anyone else to do so…

I’ll wait…the five that will “like” the fake GOTCHA! Are invited to do so and join this party too.

Strawman. So let me clear like a million comments up in summary form:
The parks are not being RUN well…and I would like better for the sake of preservation. On the flip side: always suggest the consumer should make good choices and force that change when possible. That is hard but isn’t “anti magical” to suggest. Basically cut the “it’s worth it to ME!” Crap as a responsible strategy regardless of the particulars. Not saying don’t buy things…don’t put lipstick on it and promote it. Big kid stuff.

Now I do got this darn timeshare…which was a song at the time. Good then…ridiculously bad now…so I tell everyone to run and laugh at the price. Seasons do change. You won’t find me rushing to buy/renew Annual passes either…or dumping money down the black holes that are CRT, Ohana, le cellier, etc etc etc.
I do like me some brown derby…boathouse…homecoming…tiffins…
So guilty…I’ll take the floggins for that.

Just can’t shut the Brain down totally…only in small quantities. Mine sins are between myself and the almighty…and everyone here 😎
 
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TheMaxRebo

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Obviously just anecdotally but I was there this past We, at MK and it was rated at 5 by Touring Plans and that felt accurate. Decent lines everywhere (Small World was as high as 40 mins and looked very bit of it, People Mover was constant 15 mins, Mine Train was 80, Tiana's was 55 generally, etc) ... So it definitely wasn't empty but wasn't packed to the gills either

Honestly was a good level where felt active, alive but no super long waits for food for anything
 
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Agent H

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Right…this is the part where you find a post threatening to boycott LBV…or telling anyone else to do so…

I’ll wait…the five that will “like” the fake GOTCHA! Are invited to do so and join this party too.

Strawman. So let me clear like a million comments up in summary form:
The parks are not being RUN well…and I would like better for the sake of preservation. On the flip side: always suggest the consumer should make good choices and force that change when possible. That is hard but isn’t “anti magical” to suggest. Basically cut the “it’s worth it to ME!” Crap as a responsible strategy regardless of the particulars. Not saying don’t buy things…don’t put lipstick on it and promote it. Big kid stuff.

Now I do got this darn timeshare…which was a song at the time. Good then…ridiculously bad now…so I tell everyone to run and laugh at the price. Seasons do change. You won’t find me rushing to buy/renew Annual passes either…or dumping money down the black holes that are CRT, Ohana, le cellier, etc etc etc.
I do like me some brown derby…boathouse…homecoming…tiffins…
So guilty…I’ll take the floggins for that.

Just can’t shut the Brain down totally…only in small quantities. Mine sins are between myself and the almighty…and everyone here 😎
So if you still go all the time then what good choices do you think everyone should be making?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Just my take…but the strong suspicion is the reason the pre Covid crowds have not returned (reportedly)…and they have begrudgingly had to report declines and a a lot of “flats” in the last few years is off property.

There is a myth…not really discussed…that the wdw run hotels comprise almost all the daily attendance in the parks.

It’s out of sight/mind and assumed…but makes no sense when you pull back and look.

There are well over 500 hotels in Orlando within about 20 miles of the place. And they were not built to fuel the convention center and the arts.

But there’s no way to quantify what goes on outside…really. The local officials (90% dependent on travel and therefore 50% on wdw alone) are not inclined to report any downswings…only “up, bigger, more!” Orlando is like Dubai…the local economy is dependent entirely on increase. Least recession resistant place like ever.

So when they say “most amount of travelers ever” …you cannot determine how that affects off property traffic to wdw.

A living oxymoron.

Considering how much money has been spent and how busy travel was 2021-2025…they should be up. They’re not
 
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Chi84

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So if you still go all the time then what good choices do you think everyone should be making?
He’s already experienced all the things he’s telling people to avoid. Probably more than once.

It’s okay for him to skip those things and tell others they’re not worth it. It’s not okay to suggest others buying them is irresponsible or to tell them to stop saying it’s worth it to them. That will never get through.
 

BrianLo

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I love me a good “DVC are my golden handcuffs” excuse. They are very easy to sell at likely higher than one bought it for.

Or even easier to swap them into alternative vacations, cruises from non Disney lines with no tax considerations.

Continuing to visit WDW is not the inactive choice some like to pretend it is. I can add addicts in denial to my list.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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-Never stayed at Pop Century
-Wouldn’t dream of paying to see Taylor Swift in concert (she’s a great singer, but I don’t enjoy her that much to put that much cash on the line)

I did do a crazy thing last January, I went to the College National Championship Game in Atlanta. My team had made it and it was a bucket trip. Not only that I was actually in the area because, you guessed it I had booked a week at Universal. Going to that game and adding two nights tripled the cost of that vacation. I had a lot of fun, was really glad I did it, but will never do it again. The cost just isn’t worth the experience after doing it once. Meanwhile, my next trip to Universal is in October.

When I was younger I readily went to nearly all my college home games even once I got old enough that I could do it as a day trip anymore. But, again, the costs got too high to justify the expense, it’s not that I didn’t enjoy doing it, I just didn’t enjoy it enough to part with the cash. If I’m paying someone hundreds of dollars to entertain me, gosh darn it, I want to be entertained the entire day.
I can relate to all that…

Went to a school that will fit 111,000 on a few Saturdays a year…so it’s not foreign

I’m gonna hope the “my team
Was in it” means horns…or we got issues 🐾
But anyway.

The difference here is that there is a high number of repeats to wdw on every given day…the majority…in fact…and that makes it “not really that special”…that’s also like 99% of us here…so that’s a thing too.

Events…even football seasons tickets….involve far less time/limited exposure than Orlando amusement trips. More special…in other words.

Still think cruise ships are the closest actual comp. And they are a better value in most cases. All in cost and variety presented.

All the things kicked around are expensive…no question…but they aren’t all comparable on a level playing field.

Maybe that’s why I’m getting the flack? I don’t know…I’ll take the foul on this one.
 
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Touchdown

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I can relate to all that…

Went to a school that will fit 111,000 on a few Saturdays a year…so it’s not foreign

I’m gonna hope the “my team
Was in it” means horns…or we got issues 🐾
But anyway.

The difference here is that there is a high number of repeats to wdw on every given day…the majority…in fact…and that makes it “not really that special”…that’s also like 99% of us here…so that’s a thing too.

Events…even football seasons tickets….invoice far less time/limited exposure than Orlando amusement trips. More special…in other words.

Still think cruise ships are the closest actual comp. And they are a better value in most cases. All in cost and variety presented.

All the things kicked around are expensive…no question…but they aren’t all comparable on a level playing field.

Maybe that’s why I’m getting the flack? I don’t know…I’ll take the foul on this one.
Sorry my friend, neither red nor orange suit me, and navy blue looks a heck of a lot better when paired with gold as opposed to fluorescent yellow.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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I love me a good “DVC are my golden handcuffs” excuse. They are very easy to sell at likely higher than one bought it for.

Or even easier to swap them into alternative vacations, cruises from non Disney lines with no tax considerations.

Continuing to visit WDW is not the inactive choice some like to pretend it is. I can add addicts in denial to my list.
Nor was it meant to be any of that…as you well know. My “value” proposition has a fixed point that many if not most here can’t duplicate…

But you know that. Out of pocket spending ain’t absolute. It doesn’t excuse the realities. But I’ll give you credit for throwing meat to a few usual lions in the cage. I expect more of you…but I’ll take it.

Think of that one particular thing. So I read people say with self soothing confidence (for years) how it is “smart” to have not gotten dvc because of a vairrry of excuse…

Like “don’t want to be locked in”…”I’m never in the room”…whatever.
But the omitted fact is they’re paying 3-4x for port Orleans, pop, wherever over the time frame. If They couldn’t do it then. Fine…no foul. Doesn’t make them “more smart”…that’s not an equivalency. If they didn’t see it or do it back then…then egg on the face. The excuses are just that now with history in place.

Or let’s go to another good one:

The infrequent traveler/defender complex. Going once every 3 years and overspending doesn’t make one more pure…certainly not more dedicated. And not a better “value”…it’s worth it to ME. I’m still probably spending more…maybe double? 😱
But getting without stretch 3x the time on the ground. So isn’t it really worth it to ME? 🤔
Better value?

That usually gets the more recent pathetic: “you go TOO much”.

Right…a lot harder to fool one’s self, forget half the details, carry water.

Oh well…ice cream? Anyone want ice cream? Time for some 🍦

That being said…everyone happy?
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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Attributed to price increases and cost cuts

READ.

That can go on forever, right? That’s how the whole thing works 🤓

It’s interesting that Disney is doing great when Vegas is apparently down. I’m not sure what that means for the economy at large.

I’m hoping Disney and Orlando tourism stays healthy.

As a Vegas resident I’m curious about this also, I see a ton of similarities between recent Vegas and recent Disney, they’ve both nickel and dimed their guests for the last half decade, they’ve both rapidly increased prices, they’ve both gone after the more affluent clientele over the middle class, they’ve both cut back on perks and freebies…

The primary thing that seems to be different is Vegas posted record breaking profits 3 quarters ago and Disney did it last quarter, makes me wonder if Disney will see their downturn 6 months from now.

I’m also finding a lot of the reporting overly dramatic concerning Vegas, we’re definitely experiencing declines but it’ll be interesting to see if the counter measures influence that, we’re already seeing room rates coming down and several resorts eliminating ridiculously unpopular things like parking fees, offsetting resort fees with credits, etc.

I suspect Disney will resort to similar measures if/when their unpopular nickel and diming catches up to them.

It feels like we’re in a correction phase.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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As a Vegas resident I’m curious about this also, I see a ton of similarities between recent Vegas and recent Disney, they’ve both nickel and dimed their guests for the last half decade, they’ve both rapidly increased prices, they’ve both gone after the more affluent clientele over the middle class, they’ve both cut back on perks and freebies…
as someone who did visit Vegas somewhat regularly in the past - I got to a tipping point where I no longer want to visit. I don’t feel even close to the same way about Disney parks.

For me, customer service has completely fallen off the map in Vegas and food and drink prices are nowhere near realistic. I mostly would eat at the in-n-out by linq.

Do they still have an earl of sandwich out there!? Haha
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
As a Vegas resident I’m curious about this also, I see a ton of similarities between recent Vegas and recent Disney, they’ve both nickel and dimed their guests for the last half decade, they’ve both rapidly increased prices, they’ve both gone after the more affluent clientele over the middle class, they’ve both cut back on perks and freebies…

The primary thing that seems to be different is Vegas posted record breaking profits 3 quarters ago and Disney did it last quarter, makes me wonder if Disney will see their downturn 6 months from now.

I’m also finding a lot of the reporting overly dramatic concerning Vegas, we’re definitely experiencing declines but it’ll be interesting to see if the counter measures influence that, we’re already seeing room rates coming down and several resorts eliminating ridiculously unpopular things like parking fees, offsetting resort fees with credits, etc.

I suspect Disney will resort to similar measures if/when their unpopular nickel and diming catches up to them.

It feels like we’re in a correction phase.
I think the danger to both is that once something gets a “general consensus” style label as a ripoff…like not on chat boards on fan forums…it’s very difficult to shake the stigma, pull out of the dive, and do damage control
 
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