Disney was looking at Hard Rock Park

gbrooks135

Active Member
Original Poster
Do I hear $35 million?

That's the minimum price for Hard Rock Park when it goes up for auction on December 15th, per court documents, which were filed this week. It's do or die time for South Carolina's $400 million investment, which will be sold in part or while. Bid's are being accepted until December 12th.

According to the court, qualified bidders must meet the minimum $35 million price tag, put 10% down in cash and show they have the experience to run the business. There have been a several companies touring the park in the past couple of months and there are a few interested buyers. Discover Myrtle Beach previously reported on these buyers, but did not release names.

One buyer appears to be interested in reopening the park, while another may wish to relocate the assests.

Upon a potential sale, creditors will begin lining up to collect, starting with Deutsche Bank, which is owed around $18.6 million. Deutsche Bank pushed for the park's sale in court. Following the bank, lenders who gave the park $2 million to operate during the bankruptcy. Unfortunately, for stockholders and creditors, legal fees and adminstrative costs will come next, while will likely leave nothing left.

It is still unclear if Hard Rock International will allow the use of the "Hard Rock" name, if the park were to reopen. HRP Operations Myrtle Beach, the company which owned the park, had paid a minimum of $2.5 million a year to license the name.

The $400 million park had roughly 2,000 employees. Cut began over the summer and quickly dropped to a few hundred in the weeks leading up to chapter 11 bankrupcy filing. Some 75 employees remained, which dropped to about half in the last week of operations, the first week of November. The same week most employees were let go, leaving a skeleton staff of at least half a dozen, plus security.

Before Hard Rock Park shut down and filed bankruptcy, there had been reports of Disney Exec walking around the park with the CEO of HRP.
and now that the park is up for auction for a mere $35 million to start. I wonder if they might but a bid in on it. I know a while back they were looking to build on the old airforce base, but could not get the land they wanted.:shrug:
 

DisneyDellsDude

New Member
I hope Disney doesn't buy! At the rate Disney builds/adds to it's theme parks, the park wouldn't be up to Disney standards for a century.

Quality over Quantity.
 

Iknewagirlnamed

New Member
It would make way more sense if Universal bought the park. They all ready have Hard Rock Cafe's at their parks. Disney is original. Why would they want to take someone else's idea?
 

majortom1981

Active Member
hmm

One site stated there are two companies interested in the park so far. One to buy the park as a whole and another to buy just the rides.

Maybe disney is looking to buy the rides and not the land?

Would be an easy and cheap way to get new rides for the parks.
 

dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
One site stated there are two companies interested in the park so far. One to buy the park as a whole and another to buy just the rides.

Maybe disney is looking to buy the rides and not the land?

Would be an easy and cheap way to get new rides for the parks.

It would be, but I don't think the rides are really the type of attraction Disney has in its long term plans.
 
Wow, I didn't know they filed for bankruptcy! I go to Myrtle Beach every year. In 2007 I was really excited to see the construction, and when I went to see the finished product in 2008, I was incredibly disappointed. They really do need to restructure, and they should have added a few more rides and shows before they hastened to open for the 2008 season. The theming was actually really nice from what we could see (we peeked through the entrance gates into the main plaza area), but it just didn't have enough to do. I doubt Disney would want to take any of the rides, and I don't think they area has enough space for them to open a park, unless they're able to knock down the adjacent, empty outlet malls.
 

71jason

Well-Known Member
That would be crazy. Maybe this is the opportunity that disney needed to finally start the rumored park in Va. but only in NC

Of course, Busch Gardens is actually in VA and that's apparently going up for sale, as well. Never been to HRP, but from what I hear, BG might be a bit easier to "Disneyfy" as well.
 

BiggerTigger

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, Disney is playing with a double edged sword. With an economic down turn and travel being hurt hard, Disney needs a way to reconnect with its market, yet placing new rides and attractions in its parks is great idea, many will wait a little longer if thye only offer one or two new things a year. Not really worth the trip for some. Yet purchasing smaller parks (Busch Entertainment) would give the company a way to reach those that are willing to travel, but not to the extent of Florida/California. With parks in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Texas, and of course, Florida/California, Disney will set itself up for expansion into successful markets while maintianing the Disney quality on a smaller scale.

Hard Rock Park is only one park and offers little for Disney expansion, if that is the route the want to do, though for the low price that they are offering $35 million, may be one step towards expansion.
 

agent86

New Member
It would make way more sense if Universal bought the park. They all ready have Hard Rock Cafe's at their parks. Disney is original. Why would they want to take someone else's idea?

Yeah, that's right! I mean everyone knows Disney never does anything that's based on anything non-Disney. I mean, next thing you know, someone's going to suggest that Disney build attractions based on such non-Disney properties as Star Wars, or Indiana Jones, or the Muppets,...

...or Twilight Zone!

...or American Idol!

...or Wizard of Oz!

I mean, Disney being involved in something that isn't originally Disney??.. Ha! That's crazy talk!! :hammer:
 

Keith_WaterTank

New Member
It's really a smart idea, actually. There is a vast audience that Disney cannot reach because they either don't like the Disney characters/stories 100% enough to travel to florida/California, or financially they are unable to do so.

With either HRP or Busch Gardens, Disney is reaching out to a new audience in a whole new way. However we have to be careful not to repeat the Eisner-era mistakes of expanding too much, too quickly.

This would be a good idea for Disney, especially given the recent financial dubbacle (sp?) but only if they approach it from all the right angles.
 

DisneyRoxMySox

Well-Known Member
It's really a smart idea, actually. There is a vast audience that Disney cannot reach because they either don't like the Disney characters/stories 100% enough to travel to florida/California, or financially they are unable to do so.

I feel that if one were to drive to travel to South Carolina, they could easily travel to Florida. My guess it would primarily be for local guests and I don't think that is the business Disney wants to be in. It just isn't that profitable. Just look at Six Flags.

Yeah, that's right! I mean everyone knows Disney never does anything that's based on anything non-Disney. I mean, next thing you know, someone's going to suggest that Disney build attractions based on such non-Disney properties as Star Wars, or Indiana Jones, or the Muppets,...

Disney owns the muppets now, no?

...or Twilight Zone!

...or American Idol!

...or Wizard of Oz!

I mean, Disney being involved in something that isn't originally Disney??.. Ha! That's crazy talk!! :hammer:

Well, the Wizard of Oz was an MGM film, and since it was a Disney-MGM studios park it was okay. It wou;dn't supirse me to see the GMR change in the next 20 years..

Disney bought the rights to the ToT, at least the attratction rights and the newer movie rights?

Lucas only wanted to work with Disney.

American Idol, I'm not a fan of. But, it to is a partenrship.. Part of me thinks American Idol, went to Disney and Universal with the idea. And Disney won.
 

Keith_WaterTank

New Member
Quite to the contrary, Myrtle Beach is a vacation destination for locals and out of towners who might never consider the drive to Disney. And also, if I lived in Washington DC i'd be more ept to make a 5-6 hour drive to SC then a 10-12 hr drive to Florida.

It's not necessarily a lucrative idea and I think that if Disney doesn't at least consider it, they are wrong. HRP was a brilliant idea, just not properly thought out.
 

agent86

New Member
Disney owns the muppets now, no?

Well, the Wizard of Oz was an MGM film, and since it was a Disney-MGM studios park it was okay. It wou;dn't supirse me to see the GMR change in the next 20 years..

Disney bought the rights to the ToT, at least the attratction rights and the newer movie rights?

Lucas only wanted to work with Disney.

American Idol, I'm not a fan of. But, it to is a partenrship.. Part of me thinks American Idol, went to Disney and Universal with the idea. And Disney won.

Correct. The above are all examples of properties that were not originally Disney, but Disney still did things with them by virtue of having bought the rights or gone into partnerships. My point in using those examples was to illustrate that Disney buying Hard Rock Park would be no different. Iknewagirlnamed made the remark that it wouldn't make sense for Disney to own Hard Rock Park because it's "not originally Disney" (or something to that effect). My post (and the examples I listed) were to point out that Disney does that all the time so how would this be any different?
 

toolsnspools

Well-Known Member
Get it while it's cheap...

Disney has been kicking around the idea of a themed shopping / entertainment area for a few years now. This may be just the opportunity they need to "test" the idea on the cheap. It cost the original developers $400M to build, Disney could pick it up for $35M. Now that's a bargain. Even if the idea flops, they still get to try it for far less than they could by building it from scratch.
 

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