Disney Vegas???

DisneyFreak

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When do you think Disney will finally try and capitalize on this money machine? I think it could be huge for them.

Have a huge resort on the strip, all the slots are based off of Disney movies, they could have some of the attractions from DisneyQuest, waterpark, shows, rides, etc. They could blow all these other places away.

Thoughts?
 

Disneynut

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I agree completely. They had the chance to have casinos on their cruise ships and they decided against it. If Walt isn't already turning in his grave, he would be if WDW ever adds casinos!!!!!
 

dopey

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i think some sort of disney casino-hotel in las vegas is possible.

if i'm not mistaken, disney already has investments in gaming companies. it's probably in the 10-k, but i'm too lazy to verify it right now.

it would, of course, have to go by something other than the disney name and avoid any connection with mickey, donald, et al., or, as wdw-imagineer said, it would hurt disney's family image.

i'm sure walt would be spinning in his grave over some of the decisions current management has made. maybe eisner and his cronies figure it's ok because walt was cremated. hence, no grave spinning.

i know walt would despise having a giant bottle of wine serve as the icon for one of his parks. not that he didn't smoke, cuss or drink; he just wanted his parks to be for suitable for families.

so if disney thinks it could make a buck in vegas, it will be there.
 

WDW-Imagineer

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Actually as I rethink this over... I believe Disney could have something in Vegas, but it would have to be a family resort in which children are welcome there (not charged extra for as is standard in LV). Even still, it would still hurt Disney's image and I don't think it would be a wise decision on Disney's part.
 

DisneyFreak

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I know the first thought is "Disney and Vegas?!? They just don't go together." But when you think about it would be the perfect fit. Vegas over the years has become a FAMILY destination and not just one for gamblers. Look at Pleasure Island, that wasn't family oriented and look at the success that has been. They've also had "Gambling Night" at Manniquins a couple times (not real gambling but with chips).

I think, especially now with Eisner tightening the purse strings, this could be a major cash cow for Disney. Everything Disney does is already there (shows, huge resorts, waterparks, amusement rides) and Disney does it so much better.
 

dopey

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disneyfreak, i think you make excellent points.

below is an undated article from gamblingtimes.com. i found it just by typing "disney" and "gambling" into yahoo.

like i said, disney already has ties to the gaming industry. they just have their toes in the water right now. maybe 10 years from now, you'll be playing poker with chips that resemble mouse ears.

here's the article:

Disney and MGM Mirage have announced plans to bring some of the Disney brand names to MGM's New York-New York casino. Specifically, the ESPN Zone sports bar is planned to open next summer at the New York-New York Las Vegas property. The announcement featured : five Laker Girls cheerleaders and three ESPN television network talents: Robin Roberts, Charley Steiner and Al Bernstein. MGM Mirage brought its own leading lights: Chairman Terry Lanni, Co-Chief Executives Dan Wade and John Redmond, and President Jim Murren.

"The success of ESPN Zone dining and entertainment centers is directly related to the power of the ESPN brand," Disney Regional Entertainment Vice-President and General Manager Randall Baumberger said. "The synergy created between the ESPN television and radio networks, ESPN magazine, ESPN Web sites and our ESPN Zones is a win-win-win-win situation, for ESPN, Las Vegas, MGM Mirage, and our customers."

MGM Mirage's Lanni responded: "One of the main reasons for our merger with Mirage was the power of the Mirage brands: Bellagio, Mirage and Shadow Creek, among them. What better brand to have than ESPN Zone here in Las Vegas?"

The Las Vegas ESPN Zone will be Disney's seventh. Locations in Baltimore, Chicago, New York, Atlanta and Washington, D.C., are open, and an Anaheim, Calif., location next to Disneyland is scheduled to open in January. Plans for the Las Vegas ESPN Zone include two bars, with a second-floor bar overlooking the inside of the New York-New York casino.

There are also two separate dining areas. The Studio Grill will serve diners surrounded by replicas of ESPN studio broadcasting sets, and a screening room will let diners view a video wall of live games and updated scores. ESPN and ABC television and radio broadcasts will likely be broadcast from the on-site studio. The ESPN Zone also plans a 10,000-square-foot Sports Arena with a number of interactive and skill based sports games. The two-level sports bar will take the place of the former Motown Cafe.

"We love the location," Baumberger said. "We have access to a major hotel, we're on a great corner (Tropicana Avenue and the Strip), and we have unparalleled Strip exposure." "If everything goes well, we'd love to be open by June next year," Baumberger added. No information was tendered regarding the cost of buy-outs and new improvements.
 

dopey

New Member
this article from u.s. news is even better:


Business & Technology 5/28/01

Disney's risky bet
Is gaming goofy?

By Joshua Kurlantzick

Mickey Mouse is rolling the dice on his latest venture. Walt Disney has invested in Skillgames Inc., which next month launches an online gaming portal where contestants can win as much as $100,000 in trivia contests, puzzles, and sports games. Disney says the games involve mostly skill, not chance–no one-armed bandits here. But lest unsavory connotations arise, the firms are launching pre-emptive strikes. Skillgames chief executive David Zucker says he "simply is not in the gambling business. We're providing responsible and enjoyable legal entertainment." His advisory group, including former attorneys general, is comfortable that the site meets legal requirements in 47 states. Dick Glover, an executive vice president at Disney's Internet group, notes that player spending will be limited to $300 a month on the site, to protect customers.

But Disney zealously guards its family-entertainment image. So others question why the company would touch the venture. "If you bet money to win money, that's gambling, even if there's skill involved and it's legal," says Jeffrey Derevensky, a psychologist who sees legal online gaming as a gateway to gambling.

Tom Grey, head of the National Council Against Legalized Gambling, wonders if Disney is eyeing the $6.3 billion that, by one estimate, will be spent on Internet gambling by 2003. Disney, he says, "fought casino gambling when it was proposed in Florida in 1994 but did little when it was introduced in California in 1999. Now they're in with Skillgames, so they might be testing the public response, in case Internet gambling is legalized." Still, it's hard to imagine Goofy risking his image lounging at the craps table.
 

FutureCEO

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it would be cool. i would gamle their for years. Anyway i want to go to Las Vegas when i'm old enough

Gambling is entertaiment somewhat anyway and Disney is in that field and Disney would make a lot of money on this so i think it woulld be a good idea.
 

WDW-Imagineer

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Originally posted by wdw24557
it would be cool. i would gamle their for years. Anyway i want to go to Las Vegas when i'm old enough

Gambling is entertaiment somewhat anyway and Disney is in that field and Disney would make a lot of money on this so i think it woulld be a good idea.

Gambling is also considered a somewhat "dark" form of entertainment... along the lines of strip clubs, etc. I don't think gambling belongs within a 50 mile radius of anything Disney.

Disney = Family
Gambling = Gangsters, Drunks, people loosing all of their money, guns, baseball bats, & shovels :eek: :eek:

Also, you say Disney is in the entertainment field. Well, thats true, but why should Disney have all forms of entertainment. Should we see strip bars in Disney now?? Chip n' Dale Dancers... :p ;)
 

DisneyFreak

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Original Poster
Originally posted by WDW-Imagineer


:eek: :eek: - Drunks... OK... but the others??? :eek:

people losing their money (cost of drinks which are free in Vegas, those carnival games, etc.) and back in 1991 while we were there an 18 year old kid was arrested for carrying a consealed weapon.

BTW, I just got back from Vegas this past weekend and the feel of some of the resorts is very Disney-like. I saw no gangsters, baseball bats or shovels but I did see alot of families and children.
 

WDW-Imagineer

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Originally posted by DisneyFreak


people losing their money (cost of drinks which are free in Vegas, those carnival games, etc.) and back in 1991 while we were there an 18 year old kid was arrested for carrying a consealed weapon.

BTW, I just got back from Vegas this past weekend and the feel of some of the resorts is very Disney-like. I saw no gangsters, baseball bats or shovels but I did see alot of families and children.

Well, the point I'm trying to make is that gangsters is how Las Vegas was started. I'm curious to why there where so many families... most casinos/resorts charge extra for any person under 21. Also, why would somebody under 21 want to go to Las Vegas. If you even look at the floor, you get escorted away.... you can't drink.... what is there to do??
 

DisneyFreak

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Originally posted by WDW-Imagineer


Well, the point I'm trying to make is that gangsters is how Las Vegas was started. I'm curious to why there where so many families... most casinos/resorts charge extra for any person under 21. Also, why would somebody under 21 want to go to Las Vegas. If you even look at the floor, you get escorted away.... you can't drink.... what is there to do??

Well, I guess if you have to vacation with your parents there's not much you can do. Although they can still do the shows and all the other attractions that are not in the casinos. I might also mention that there were quite a few "21 year olds":rolleyes: that looked very young for their age.

BTW Imagineer, when was the last time you were in Vegas?
 

WDW-Imagineer

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Originally posted by DisneyFreak


Well, I guess if you have to vacation with your parents there's not much you can do. Although they can still do the shows and all the other attractions that are not in the casinos. I might also mention that there were quite a few "21 year olds":rolleyes: that looked very young for their age.

BTW Imagineer, when was the last time you were in Vegas?

Never, because I'm not 21.... I wouldn't waste a trip their if I couldn't gamble.
 

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