Disney transportation Plan

DonickCo

DonickCo

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I came across this photo well sorting through some files on my computer.

From what I have seen this image seams to be from around 1997 probably earlier. I also feel that the under lying map came from within Disney, the property seams to be extended in the NW corner of the map, connecting Disney property around a proposed western road. I have never seen this extended property line before. Someone may have used this map to sketch out a transpiration map.

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-DonickCo

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Poncho1973

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That's pretty vague... you FOUND it? Just randomly like under the couch cushion? LOL!

Is this something you've created or was this something that was given to you? It definitely doesn't look like it came from on-property sources (don't ask, I wouldn't know how to explain, but it just doesn't look like local Disney product), so where did it come from?
 
DonickCo

DonickCo

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I’ve been studying this image for the past 24 hours, and mad do I wish I could read all of the text. How I wish I had the full image. Please if anyone has seen this image before please let me know. This photo seams to have a uneak Disney property line that I haven’t seen before.

-DonickCo
 
DMC-12

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It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Originally posted by Poncho1973
It definitely doesn't look like it came from on-property sources (don't ask, I wouldn't know how to explain, but it just doesn't look like local Disney product), so where did it come from?
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I agree...

Not to bash anyone here or anything... but it does look rather crude. I could of drawn that on a napkin while waiting for my pancakes at IHOP :lol: ;)

DonickCo, any dates or anything written on there?... I cannot read/see a lot on there due to the quality :)
 
DonickCo

DonickCo

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Originally posted by DMC-12
I agree...

Not to bash anyone here or anything... but it does look rather crude. I could of drawn that on a napkin while waiting for my pancakes at IHOP :lol: ;)

DonickCo, any dates or anything written on there?... I cannot read/see a lot on there due to the quality :)
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No. it seams to be before 417 was completed. I find this picture uneek because it includes proposed roads on Disney property, as well as another road west of Disney. It also has a key which is some what cut off. It also shows the proposed location of another Park and hotel. This is what I have been able to get from it so far.

From what I have seen this image seams to be from around 1997 probably earlier. I also feel that the under lying map came from within Disney, the property seams to be extended in the NW corner of the map, connecting Disney property around a proposed western road. I have never seen this extended property line before. Someone may have used this map to sketch out a transpiration map.
 

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jmarc63

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Donco, I was going to comment on 417 but you beat me to it, some further Info in the placement of 417, is that from what I understand is Disney is all for it, It.s not listed on the map , but Disney wants an exit for a western entrance to the property as a shortcut for thavelers from NW and SW Floridia.


Also Donco your pretty close on the original border and yes that is newly aquired property since the 1971 opening,

Heres a air shot of the NW section of the WDW property, in photo if you look north and west of MK you will see the flood canals, you can notice them from there straight lines and right angles, if you follow that canal, that is the original property line for that section at the time of opening in '71, from further study the concreat pads are on the WDW property, but not the lake. I cant figure what there purpose is for thoes pads, heres the link http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=14&x=138&y=981&z=17&w=1
 
jmarc63

jmarc63

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Originally posted by Woody13
Did you see the "Hidden Mickey" at WDW Speedway? Also, concrete pads don't have shadows.

Here's Mickey;

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2216&y=15705&z=17&w=1
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yep..

it's been there since they built the speedway, the retention pond was there before the track but is was trapazoidial in shape, the pond was reshaped to look like the mickey outline.


as far as the light colorted shapes to the nw of the property , you got me, well it looked like concreat in a low res image, anyway, I have always wondered what they are for.
 
Poncho1973

Poncho1973

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The Western Beltway will eventually have an on/off ramp that dumps out by Coronado Springs. Along the SW edge of the resort. This is available in the Orange Co. public records.

What exactly are you trying to figure out from this picture... maybe I can clear it up?

I just wanted to know where it came from... I can probably answer your other questions about what it shows.
 
Poncho1973

Poncho1973

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HAHAHA... I just figured out what "concrete pads" you are talking about. Those are the R.I.B.S. you are seeing. I don't know exactly what the intitials stand for, but basically that's an old system of holding "gray water" before it was being used for so much irrigation. Disney (like a billion other places in Florida NOW) uses reclaimed water to irrigate the plants, grass, etc. on property. In the old days they MADE much more "gray water" than they used, so they stored it out in those tanks. Today they are just basically an overflow system b/c Disney is super-efficient at using most/all of the water they reclaim.

Today, trucks and cars get washed down with it. Most of the resorts/parks use it to keep their lawns green. Roadways irrigation uses it. Basically, it's used to anything that isn't "human-related". Potable water (drinking water) isn't being wasted on silly things like getting dirt off of buses or spraying down parking lots/sidewalks.

The water is still clean... just unnaturally (as opposed to the water table process of filtering through the earth's crust) filtered to a pure state. Mostly, it's just the idea that bothers some people. It was toilet water once... before many many many filtrations. Oddly, so was almost all the water you drink... before it was filtered through the earth's crust or even through evaporation.
 
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mortimermouse

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Originally posted by DonickCo
No. it seams to be before 417 was completed. I find this picture uneek because it includes proposed roads on Disney property, as well as another road west of Disney. It also has a key which is some what cut off. It also shows the proposed location of another Park and hotel. This is what I have been able to get from it so far.

From what I have seen this image seams to be from around 1997 probably earlier. I also feel that the under lying map came from within Disney, the property seams to be extended in the NW corner of the map, connecting Disney property around a proposed western road. I have never seen this extended property line before. Someone may have used this map to sketch out a transpiration map.
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I'm sorry but I'm having trouble making things out. Where do you see the locations for the new park and hotel? Just curious.

Also very curious about the "concrete pads". Anybody have any inside sources that can tell us what the heck they are? Thanks.
 
Poncho1973

Poncho1973

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Originally posted by mortimermouse
Thanks Poncho. So those tanks are tied into a resort-wide irrigation system?
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Not really. It's like an overflow now. I guess if you are just speaking generally YES, but not like they are an active part anymore. I believe it's a one-way thing now. Gray water just gets pumped out there when local capacity is full and demand is down (like several rainy days in a row or cold weather). I don't believe it gets pulled back like back "in the day". I THINK that once it's out there it just evaporates b/c there are so many R.I.B.S. now and so little excess.

This isn't fact, but more of what I think.
 
DonickCo

DonickCo

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Originally posted by jmarc63
Donco, I was going to comment on 417 but you beat me to it, some further Info in the placement of 417, is that from what I understand is Disney is all for it, It.s not listed on the map , but Disney wants an exit for a western entrance to the property as a shortcut for thavelers from NW and SW Floridia.


Also Donco your pretty close on the original border and yes that is newly aquired property since the 1971 opening,

Heres a air shot of the NW section of the WDW property, in photo if you look north and west of MK you will see the flood canals, you can notice them from there straight lines and right angles, if you follow that canal, that is the original property line for that section at the time of opening in '71, from further study the concreat pads are on the WDW property, but not the lake. I cant figure what there purpose is for thoes pads, heres the link http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=14&x=138&y=981&z=17&w=1
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Here is the explanation on the ”concrete pads”.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6689

http://water.usgs.gov/pubs/circ/circ1186/html/boxg.html

Large volumes of reclaimed water, which has undergone advanced secondary treatment, are reused through land-based applications in a 40-square-mile area near Orlando, Florida. These applications include citrus crop irrigation and artificial recharge to the surficial aquifer through rapid infiltration basins.
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jmarc63

jmarc63

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Originally posted by DonickCo
Here is the explanation on the ”concrete pads”.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6689

http://water.usgs.gov/pubs/circ/circ1186/html/boxg.html

Large volumes of reclaimed water, which has undergone advanced secondary treatment, are reused through land-based applications in a 40-square-mile area near Orlando, Florida. These applications include citrus crop irrigation and artificial recharge to the surficial aquifer through rapid infiltration basins.
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So... I guess the light areas are beds of sand??

I am courous as to when they were built, they happen to be outside the original boundry for WDW, also if you noticed , they left a strip for the ROW for the beltway, that area might be part of the land swap that Disney and the state made when they sold off property in the Oceola side for Celebration and a few more acres near world drive,

As far as where the " landfil" is, if that were to be time share that really would be out of the way to put it
 

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