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News Disney testing smart speakers in guest rooms at Disney's Yacht and Beach Club

tomast

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This wouldn't be new. I'm sure with the whole MDE thing Disney knows everything they possibly want to know about everyone that enters the resort.
*Average family arriving to the room after a long day at WDW parks.

[Junior] -"Hey dad what are we going to do tomorrow??"
[Dad]-"Mmm... I was thinking maybe we can go to visit Harry on hogwarts..."
[Room AI] -"(tun-tun sound) [Star wars theme song playing] Build your own star wars lightsaber at Tatooin traders and Adventure yourself to The Black Spire Outpost on the misterious planet of Batuu. ¿Are you able to flight the famous Millennium falcon? come and explore this incredible land only at Disney Hollywood Studios "
[Junior] -"Mmm... I think dad´s idea is fun, I want to buy a Magic wand at olivanders"
[Room AI] -"(tun-tun sound) Adopt a fantastic Banshee from the Rookery only at Pandora World of Avatar at Disney´s Animal Kingdom"
[Dad]-.Mayb.."
[Room AI] -"(tun-tun sound) Dont´t miss tomorrow's special Frozen skyliner desert party get access to limited edition magic bands buying you tickets now"
[Junior] -":oops:"

[Dad]-"Ok, how do we turn this off?"
[Room AI] -"You can edit your "Magic your way" passport and add one more day to your existing tickets for the price of a uber to Univer..."
[Mom] -"
Done, I found the unplug it from behind the bed"
 

bigrigross

Active Member
Just because they say they don't keep logs doesn't mean its true. It also doesn't mean that someone can't watch traffic in real time. I am not saying that it is likely, but the point is it comes down to trust. At some point, you have to trust someone.
Trust is easy to figure out. Especially if you go off the best VPN list on torrentfreak. The good ones list every subpoena they have received. And how much information they gave (which for the top list would be who paid and email). Yeah some are worthless, even paid, but the first indictment of a VPN user caused by a VPN giving logs would be a serious loss of trust and income. I get what you are saying though.
 

bpadair32

Active Member
:rolleyes:

Given what we've learned about so-called smart phones, so-called smart TVs, and devices like Alexa, is that an unreasonable topic to discuss?
Nope. Not unreasonable as long as people can talk in facts. Most people can't. Look at earlier parts of this thread "my friend said... my family member told me..." etc. People discuss these issues with techno-panic and anecdotes instead of facts.

The fact is that any technology that you carry with you on a daily basis or have in your home has the possibility of being used by bad actors or to gather your data in a way you don't like. It is also a fact that there are benefits to be had from accepting that risk. Each person has to decide if that trade-off is worth it to them. Its fine to think its not worth it. It is not fine to act like people are dumb or misinformed if they do want to accept it.
 

TinkerBelle8878

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Although, on the other hand if this thing is listening in, and based on everything known about these speakers, they do, why not tell them how overpriced the tickets are and how the parks have fallen so far from what they once were. I'm sure if all the speakers in the rooms resortwide pick up mass dissatisfaction, this pilot program will end. Blast it with old school Epcot attraction music and videos. Talk about how all this IP shoehorning in is awful and next time the family will just go to universal. If they want to know, lets tell them :) But more seriously, there should be the option of turning these things off (really off) or taking them out of the rooms for guests who don't want them.
 

AndyS2992

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A local hotel to me supposedly tried something like and they were all stolen within a month lol Anyway, it always amuses me when people are such against these speakers when your phone, iPad, PC, your TV, are always listening, and watching if they have cameras. Any device with Siri, Alexa, Cortana or Google Assistant is always listening but no one has a problem with that, just with the speakers, which for the most part don’t have cameras.
 

kevlightyear

Active Member
The fact is that any technology that you carry with you on a daily basis or have in your home has the possibility of being used by bad actors or to gather your data in a way you don't like. It is also a fact that there are benefits to be had from accepting that risk. Each person has to decide if that trade-off is worth it to them. Its fine to think its not worth it. It is not fine to act like people are dumb or misinformed if they do want to accept it.
The difference is that putting one of the devices in your pocket or keeping it in your home is a choice YOU make. You get to research which device, what company, how much you share. You are in control.

Checking into a hotel room where the hotel has made all of those decisions for you removes your agency, and limits your personal freedom. These devices should be opt-in, not opt-out.
 

bpadair32

Active Member
The difference is that putting one of the devices in your pocket or keeping it in your home is a choice YOU make. You get to research which device, what company, how much you share. You are in control.

Checking into a hotel room where the hotel has made all of those decisions for you removes your agency, and limits your personal freedom. These devices should be opt-in, not opt-out.
Your personal freedom? Please, that is ridiculous hyperbole. If it bothers you that much just unplug it and move on with your life.
 

DisAl

Well-Known Member
When the thing can get my wife to get ready faster then they will have something worthwhile.
Otherwise, can it tell me what time the 3:00 o'clock parade is? ;)
 

kevlightyear

Active Member
Your personal freedom? Please, that is ridiculous hyperbole. If it bothers you that much just unplug it and move on with your life.
I absolutely would. But a LOT of people wouldn't even know it was there or what it was capable of, and it would be listening to them anyway, without their consent. That's where the problem lies. You really can't understand how people would be against this?
 

bigrigross

Active Member
I absolutely would. But a LOT of people wouldn't even know it was there or what it was capable of, and it would be listening to them anyway, without their consent. That's where the problem lies. You really can't understand how people would be against this?
If people had a problem with this, then they would give up their smart phones, cars, and amazon wouldnt be selling their ever popular Fire TV. People are so jumpy the second "CONNECTED" is used for any device. So long as cameras are not being used and I am not being recorded 24/7 by it, I am all for it. Vizio and Samsung learned their lesson from that massive lawsuit for the always on audio recording. I do not think any other company wants to start that up again if they value their stock prices.
 

Obobru

Active Member
I always find people who go on about VPNs and not having their internet traffic logged are often doing something they shouldn't be and should be watched extra close around kids at Disney. If you are not doing something dodgy why would you care or even think someone was reviewing your mundane internet history or listening in on you, or maybe it's ego where people think they are more important than they are and like to think someone actually cares about their boring life.
 

Kamikaze

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That seems like a better idea than the Apple product. I still think Google is even beating out Alexa, which would also be in front of the Apple product
No chance that Google Home is outselling Echo devices. Literally zero.

Edit: It appears Amazon has a 2:1 (100m to 50m) lead in devices sold as of the beginning of 2019. Much closer than I thought, to be honest.
 

Kamikaze

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I always find people who go on about VPNs and not having their internet traffic logged are often doing something they shouldn't be and should be watched extra close around kids at Disney. If you are not doing something dodgy why would you care or even think someone was reviewing your mundane internet history or listening in on you, or maybe it's ego where people think they are more important than they are and like to think someone actually cares about their boring life.
I work in IT. This isn't always true. I have some people that are paranoid about being watched, some that want to do less than legal things, and some that just do it just to do it. And others that want to appear to come from a different area, say to watch MLB.tv of a local team which you can't do from the teams broadcast area. Which means if you don't have cable/TV, you can't watch your team even if you pay for MLB.tv. If you use a VPN and grab a server in the next state (or any other area) you can watch your team just fine. Theres also a client who is the father of an Oscar nominated director who doesn't want anything between him and his son to be unencrypted. So they both use an encrypted VPN.

While you're correct, people do use VPNs to hide doing illegal things like torrenting, and I might possibly have done so myself, you can't say thats the only use.
 
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