Disney Testing Paid Parking at Walt Disney World Resort Hotels

boufa

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But...but...hysterical overreaction is way more fun!

As for your post, everything is spot on. Done correctly, the only folks upset about this will be the ones skirting the rules.

You would have loved my sarcastic first version of the post. t had a great story about the visitor who just returned from 10 years on the space station, was on his honeymoon, and just had to have a dole whip from Captain Cook's before riding 2 laps on the monorail and then heading over to the Magic Kingdom.... and now his vacation was ruined due to Disney's lack of consideration for his guest experience.

It was epic, but alas I decided it wasn't necessary to say...

(and yes, I know I just said it!)
 

boufa

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Don't worry they can't legally do it. Disney doesn't own the roads.
No, but they have significant control over the agency who does. That agency has expensive parking garages to pay for, so they might need the revenue.

Seriously, a money grab would be charging for parking to park hoppers, rather than letting them re-park free at another park. (I don't think this current situation is a money grab... it is just closing a loophole)
 

s8film40

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No, but they have significant control over the agency who does. That agency has expensive parking garages to pay for, so they might need the revenue.
There are limits to what they can do with public roads they can't just block them off and turn them into toll roads. That would be horrible for WDW's business. Money also isn't an issue for them.
 

asianway

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But see Disney is trying to prevent us (locals etc or passholders) from doing that anymore, they dont want us at trader sams or anywhere else. I think they have such a huge crowd control problem and space issue they cant handle it, from the parks to the resorts. Its gotten so flooded out of control with people 365 days a year that just getting from point a to point b is challenging. They are hoping, I think, by doing this it will dissuade us from dining or anything else on property. Thats just my feeling. We had an adr at beaches and cream a few months ago, cause we enjoy it there now and then, but even with an adr I didnt think the guard was going to let us in. It seemed to be a problem because we were 30min too early, its all just getting too complicated, Disney is no longer welcoming and no longer cares. The property is becoming a security prison, not allowed to go anywhere or do anything.

Same thing will happen to Ft. Wilderness, always been free, will no longer be if these plans go into effect. Ever since news13 had a big segment on tv about how great and free ft. wilderness is for the day, I knew Disney was going to go into hysterics and make sure it wouldnt be that way anymore.
Just like pools, the campfire sing-a-long is there for the campground guests. Not every freeloading lifestyler who resides in Orlando
 

s8film40

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Just like pools, the campfire sing-a-long is there for the campground guests. Not every freeloading lifestyler who resides in Orlando
It sounds to me like they are implying anyone is welcome.

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2014/05/light-up-your-night-with-a-campfire-at-walt-disney-world-resort/ said:
For campfire times and movie schedules, check the recreation calendar of the particular location you plan to visit or the front desk at your resort hotel for more information. You can also call 407-939-2273.
 

s8film40

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Your resort hotel. It's a hotel amenity
It's saying to ask at "your hotel" about "the particular location you plan to visit".


https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/campfires/ said:
All Guests are welcome, and all activities are complimentary and held on select nights as weather permits.
 
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asianway

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who said anything about a campfire singalong,,, have you not enjoyed ft wilderness for an afternoon or meal? I dont think that makes a local a lifestyler.
Of course. But those things aren't free. Believe it or not there is a contingent who will make a day of it hanging around the fort utilizing pools, etc without spending a dime
 

s8film40

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Of course. But those things aren't free. Believe it or not there is a contingent who will make a day of it hanging around the fort utilizing pools, etc without spending a dime
Just because that can be done doesn't mean the place is closed to the public. Just because locals are coming in for the day doesn't mean they're not spending money. I don't think there's anything wrong with a local coming in renting a bike or canoe, perhaps going out on the lake for a boat ride enjoying a meal and ending their evening with the campfire. If Disney wanted to limit the campfires or any other resort activity to just those resort guests they simply have to require a Magic Band or room key.
 

arko

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the AP perk does not include parking at Disney resorts it is clearly limited to the following
Parking at Walt Disney World theme parks

If you want to go walk around a resort, park at a a theme park and take Disney transportation to the resort of your choice.
I have no issue with charging parking for non guests without an ADR.
 

s8film40

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the AP perk does not include parking at Disney resorts it is clearly limited to the following


If you want to go walk around a resort, park at a a theme park and take Disney transportation to the resort of your choice.
I have no issue with charging parking for non guests without an ADR.
Getting free parking at a location that already offers free parking to everyone wouldn't be considered a perk. If that changes then perhaps they may add that as a "perk". It is necessary to park at a resort in order to use certain things that actually are listed as perks of having an AP.
 

Goofyernmost

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You would have loved my sarcastic first version of the post. t had a great story about the visitor who just returned from 10 years on the space station, was on his honeymoon, and just had to have a dole whip from Captain Cook's before riding 2 laps on the monorail and then heading over to the Magic Kingdom.... and now his vacation was ruined due to Disney's lack of consideration for his guest experience.

It was epic, but alas I decided it wasn't necessary to say...

(and yes, I know I just said it!)
I don't recall anyone spending 10 years on a space station. Is the rest of it true, and if so, what was it that ruined the vacation? I'm not following!
 

arko

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Getting free parking at a location that already offers free parking to everyone wouldn't be considered a perk. If that changes then perhaps they may add that as a "perk". It is necessary to park at a resort in order to use certain things that actually are listed as perks of having an AP.

You can call it what you will, the AP does not guarantee you access to resort parking in any way. And you don't have to park at a resort to access one, its just more convenient. And what perks do you have to park at a resort to use. I can only think of 2 that don't require a reservation, shopping in a resort store and the childrens activity center which higly recommends a reservation but does not require one.
I hvae no issue with them validating parking if you eat at a counter service restaurant and refunding your money. And by the way yes I am an AP holder and we never park at any resort we visit. We park at a park and use Disney transportation if we want to walk around a resort. We usually do this a lot if we come at Christmas and want to see the decorations etc.
 

s8film40

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You can call it what you will, the AP does not guarantee you access to resort parking in any way. And you don't have to park at a resort to access one, its just more convenient. And what perks do you have to park at a resort to use. I can only think of 2 that don't require a reservation, shopping in a resort store and the childrens activity center which higly recommends a reservation but does not require one.
I hvae no issue with them validating parking if you eat at a counter service restaurant and refunding your money. And by the way yes I am an AP holder and we never park at any resort we visit. We park at a park and use Disney transportation if we want to walk around a resort. We usually do this a lot if we come at Christmas and want to see the decorations etc.
There's a difference between "access" and free. There is nothing that says Disney can't start charging for parking, that goes for resort guests as well. If I have an AP and it states as a part of it I get discounts at resorts I would say that garuntees me access. That being said I think if you look back at my previous post I think you'll find we agree on what should be allowed as far reasons for parking at a resort. The problem with the current situation is it creates a confrontational situation where guests have to be questioned for why they're going to the resort. I have been able to park at the resorts every time I have attempted to do so, I very rarely do (sometimes my plans change) but I could easily use the reasons I have as excuses to park and there really isn't much they could do to stop someone from parking under those conditions. Charging for parking essentially fixes this problem it creates an incentive not to take advantage of the resort parking but if someone ultimately wants to they can they just pay for it.
 

arko

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There's a difference between "access" and free. There is nothing that says Disney can't start charging for parking, that goes for resort guests as well. If I have an AP and it states as a part of it I get discounts at resorts I would say that garuntees me access. That being said I think if you look back at my previous post I think you'll find we agree on what should be allowed as far reasons for parking at a resort. The problem with the current situation is it creates a confrontational situation where guests have to be questioned for why they're going to the resort. I have been able to park at the resorts every time I have attempted to do so, I very rarely do (sometimes my plans change) but I could easily use the reasons I have as excuses to park and there really isn't much they could do to stop someone from parking under those conditions. Charging for parking essentially fixes this problem it creates an incentive not to take advantage of the resort parking but if someone ultimately wants to they can they just pay for it.

Agreed it just boggles my mind some of the things local lifestylers do to take advantage of perks that they really have no business using. Things like resort pools or campfires, I see those as they are benefits for guests. The internet has created a lot of these problems as it did with the GAC and other abused benefits that had to be discontinued or changed.
 

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