Disney security

[mickey04]

As the nation commemorates the one year anniversary of September 11th, my thoughts have turned to the inevitability of the next terrorist attack that we keep hearing about on the news. As much as I'd like to think it won't happen, more likely than not it will. So, my question is this: just how safe is Disney? It seems to keep resurfacing that Walt Disney World and Disneyland are potential terrorist targets-- mainly to destroy the American spirit. Is there anything to stop highjacked planes or other terrorist weapons from hitting the Disney parks? While airline security has been tightened, it is still possible to sneak weapons by security. I've also heard that Disney is a possible location for a nuclear attack. I know that this is all rumor and speculation, but it seems to keep coming up again and again. So, I must ask exactly what is to prevent this. I'm not asking to frighten people, but merely to find answers- hopefully for my own comfort. Needless to say, if anything like this were to happen, I would be devistated- as I'm sure would all of you. So, any information that you could give me about Disney's defense against terror would be greatly appreciated.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

 

[MajinBuu]

A hijacked plane heading for WDW or any other target? The only thing that can stop the plane from reaching its destination is 1 of 2 things: the passengers do the same thing as those on Flight 93, or, as much as the president would hate to do it, order the plane shot down.

 

[mkt]

I'll say it: WDW Security is a joke. When they actually need stuff done, they in Orange County Sheriff's

 

[TURKEY]

Stop the people with glowing skin? Strip search with cavity searches?

There really isn't any way to make any building/place/whatever absolutely safe.

 

[Katherine]

Originally posted by turkey leg boy
Stop the people with glowing skin? Strip search with cavity searches?

There really isn't any way to make any building/place/whatever absolutely safe.

I'd have to agree. There's no way to make sure that WDW or anywhere is perfectly safe. I mean if someone wants to geet something in they'll probably find a way to get it in.As much as I don't want to think about this it's true

 

[jmarc63]

Originally posted by mktiggerman
I'll say it: WDW Security is a joke. When they actually need stuff done, they in Orange County Sheriff's

My understanding is that Disney has brought in OCSD to patrol the public throufares and Disney security would handel the Parks and structures unless there was situation that went beyond just ejecting a rowdy guest. since WDWs expansion in the late 80s OCSD has been patrolling the roadways on Disney property and handeling other security issues on disney property> Since Disney has the Reedy Creek EMS unit I never really understood why they didn't create a police force since they can due to the Reedy Creek charter

 

[mkt]

Originally posted by jmarc63



My understanding is that Disney has brought in OCSD to patrol the public throufares and Disney security would handel the Parks and structures unless there was situation that went beyond just ejecting a rowdy guest. since WDWs expansion in the late 80s OCSD has been patrolling the roadways on Disney property and handeling other security issues on disney property> Since Disney has the Reedy Creek EMS unit I never really understood why they didn't create a police force since they can due to the Reedy Creek charter

nope.. OCSO is in the parks right now. Uniformed and undercover. I don't think they wanted to start a police force, since they don't want the potential ugliness of an actual police force (i'll explain later if anyone is interested)

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Originally posted by mickey04
. So, any information that you could give me about Disney's defense against terror would be greatly appreciated.

THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

Why would you need to know this? are you a closset ?
Whos to say you are not planning some dastardly deed.

As they say " Need to know"

 

[epcot71]

Originally posted by mktiggerman



nope.. OCSO is in the parks right now. Uniformed and undercover. I don't think they wanted to start a police force, since they don't want the potential ugliness of an actual police force (i'll explain later if anyone is interested)

im interested-i wonder why they havent started reedy creek p.d. while they have fire dept

 

[mkt]

Originally posted by epcot71


im interested-i wonder why they havent started reedy creek p.d. while they have fire dept

my guess- disney doesn't want to deal with the potential ugliness of having a police department on its payroll (rather than just a few OC Sheriffs), as well as the higher criticism from the public if something bad happens

 

[CAPTAIN HOOK]

Originally posted by turkey leg boy
There really isn't any way to make any building/place/whatever absolutely safe.

Its a sad fact..............but how much warning was given before the first plane hit the WTC ?
I hate to ask, but what exactly were the air traffic controllers doing on that fateful day ? They would have been aware something was wrong the moment those planes altered from their scheduled routes. Did the ATC try and raise any alarm ? (I am NOT suggesting in any way they are responsible or could have prevented it) With all the intelligence that the military were collecting and the increase in "chatter" shouldn't someone, somewhere have been on a higher security alert ?

 

[Lilo]

As someone who was in NY on that day and couldn't make it home that night - there was no way air traffic could have done something in those few minutes. Newark is right across the river and most plains follow the river as highway going out and coming back to the airport.

Now as far as security for WDW. When I went down in February 2002 the security at the gate was in place to search bags. Is there anything more they can do if someone really wants to destroy the place - NO. My sense of security is shaken but not totally destroyed. I am still going in November.

 

[Mag1575]

If there were a possible nuclear attack, I'm assuming that the tunnels located under the park could be used as fallout shelters. To any CM, please correct me if I'm wrong. The problem would be how would you be able to get people down there in a calm manner. I hope and pray to God that we will never, ever experience this!


Mark

 

[JoeZerboy]

Originally posted by Mag1575
If there were a possible nuclear attack, I'm assuming that the tunnels located under the park could be used as fallout shelters. To any CM, please correct me if I'm wrong. The problem would be how would you be able to get people down there in a calm manner. I hope and pray to God that we will never, ever experience this!


Mark

Possibly good idea...IF there were such an attack going on. But if Disney is marked as "ground zero" for the missile, I doubt that the utilidors in the MK would be able to withstand the force of the blast. And, unless I am mistaken, MK is the only area in the resort with utilidors to offer as a refuge and possible shelter.

I, too, would hate to see anything like this happen to not only DL or WDW, but anywhere. It just isn't called for in this day and age. But, most any sane person would tell you that...but it's the fanatics with access to these weapons that we need to be wary of.

 

[MajinBuu]

Originally posted by CAPTAIN HOOK


Its a sad fact..............but how much warning was given before the first plane hit the WTC ?
I hate to ask, but what exactly were the air traffic controllers doing on that fateful day ? They would have been aware something was wrong the moment those planes altered from their scheduled routes. Did the ATC try and raise any alarm ? (I am NOT suggesting in any way they are responsible or could have prevented it) With all the intelligence that the military were collecting and the increase in "chatter" shouldn't someone, somewhere have been on a higher security alert ?

There was a show on NBC about the air traffic controllers of 9/11/01 last night. Many of the points your asking about were covered in the show. You should have watched it being that it was 30 minutes after your above post. If you did, I didnt know, cause i dont see another post about it.

 

[CAPTAIN HOOK]

Originally posted by MajinBuu
There was a show on NBC about the air traffic controllers of 9/11/01 last night. Many of the points your asking about were covered in the show. You should have watched it being that it was 30 minutes after your above post. If you did, I didnt know, cause i dont see another post about it.

NBC isn't broadcast in the UK - so I didn't see it. Sounds interesting though, can you answer any of the points which I raised ?

 

[westie]

Hey, when your numbers up its up. I'd like to die at WDW if I had a choice. 99.9% of us won't get a second chance so, if it comes down to it, I'd like to be on Rock N Rollercoaster...BOOM!

Oh yeah, Mouse Tales has a whole chapter dedicated to bomb threats and the like.

 

[DisneyCP2000]

Originally posted by CAPTAIN HOOK


Its a sad fact..............but how much warning was given before the first plane hit the WTC ?
I hate to ask, but what exactly were the air traffic controllers doing on that fateful day ? They would have been aware something was wrong the moment those planes altered from their scheduled routes. Did the ATC try and raise any alarm ? (I am NOT suggesting in any way they are responsible or could have prevented it) With all the intelligence that the military were collecting and the increase in "chatter" shouldn't someone, somewhere have been on a higher security alert ?

I recall them mentioning that the hijackers turned off the radio a couple of times. The ATC didn't really know what was going on. they reported it but didn't know how serious it was going to be. As for the time between the first hit to the last, I believe that the ATC were focusing on landing all the planes up in the air. They primary concern was to land all planes immeidately to 'prevent' an more additional attacks. All of the ATC's had to switch to this mode and didn't have time to comprehend what had happend. It wasn't until the last plane landed safely till they could sit and think about what really happended. In all, they managed to land ALL (numbered in the 1,000s) planes in the vicinity of the USA. They did it all in 2.5-3 hours. Not one mid air crash or fatality from it. If you ask me that is incredible by itself. It was a first for the ATC and the handled it beautifully.

There was a lot more but that was what they focused on in the show. Hope it helps.

 

[mkt]

if a bomb were to hit MK, it wouldn't matter if you were in the tunnel- it would collapse. Don't think of it as underground (which it isn't), think of it as being in the first story of a 2 story building. You'd be better off staying upstairs and trying to outrun the debris..

just my $0.02

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Given that in the days of the cold war post attack recovery was expected to last 65 days, can you imagine living in those conditions?

Anyway I think youll find chemical bio and nuke stories are a lot more to do with reelection plans and very little to do with reality. A good scare story sort of puts the economy in its place.