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Disney road paves way to skip I-4, enter park

jcraycraft

Member
Original Poster
I know this his been talked about before, but article still has some good info in it.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...sep13,0,4815539.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

The private road will give Walt Disney World guests access from the west so they can bypass the busy freeway.


Scott Powers | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted September 13, 2005


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Walt Disney World is quietly building a new road onto its property that could siphon thousands of tourists a day off Interstate 4.

The route would take visitors driving down the Interstate 75/Florida's Turnpike corridor into Disney from State Road 429, the Western Beltway toll road being built through western Orange County.

When more of that expressway opens this winter, one of the exits will lead to a new four-lane divided road called Western Way, entering Disney from the west.

"The connection of the new Western Way to the Western Beltway will be a convenient alternative . . . to access Walt Disney World Resort," said Andrea Finger, spokeswoman for Walt Disney Imagineering.

The Western Beltway is being jointly built by Florida's Turnpike Enterprise and the Orlando-Orange County Expressway Authority.

The Expressway Authority is spending $230 million to extend the toll road south 11 miles from County Road 535 to Seidel Road. The turnpike group is spending $310 million on the next 11 miles to I-4.

The sections from C.R. 535 to U.S. Highway 192 should open in December, and the rest about a year later.

The new Disney road could open by March or April, connecting with an interchange on S.R. 429 about three miles north of U.S. 192, in the turnpike enterprise's section. From there, Western Way snakes east and south for 3.5 miles inside Disney property, ending at West Buena Vista Road between Blizzard Beach and Disney-MGM Studios.

Disney, which owns the entire roadway, is spending $50 million to build it, and it will remain private. That means the road did not have to be reviewed by Orange County transportation officials, Growth Management Manager Jim Harrison said.

The private road largely escaped the notice of Orange County officials, including Harrison, Mayor Rich Crotty and those at MetroPlan Orlando, the region's road-planning agency. Even some officials at the turnpike enterprise, which is building the interchange, said they did not know Disney planned the road as a major new entrance.

Still, public planners applauded the idea that the new Disney route could divert thousands of cars a day off I-4. Disney estimates the new road would carry 15,000 vehicles a day in its first year. If traffic grows, Disney plans to widen Western Way to six lanes.

"It's good news, though I'm surprised they haven't made more of it," MetroPlan Executive Director Harry Barley said after learning of the road Friday.

The S.R. 429 route also would lead visitors away from driving past other tourist temptations such as Universal Studios, SeaWorld Orlando and International Drive.

Universal Orlando spokesman Tom Schroeder said his company is not worried about losing the exposure.

"Universal guests are smart, dedicated, and they can also read road maps," he said.

Kevin Hoeflich, the turnpike enterprise's project manager for the Western Beltway design, said he did not know Disney planned a road capable of sending 15,000 cars a day to and from S.R. 429. He said the expressway could handle the traffic, and he gave the company credit for helping make the expressway possible in the first place.

Plenty of private interests pushed for construction of the expressway, but not many ponied up, he said. Disney donated $7.5 million and 200 acres.

"Outside of the transportation agencies, the only entity that came to the table with anything was Disney," he said. "Without the [land] donation and the funds to make up the shortfall, I don't imagine this project would have been built."

Richard Foglesong, author of the book Married to the Mouse, a critical look at Disney's political influence in Central Florida, said Disney likely would get more than its money's worth from the contribution and the new road.

"It would seem on the surface that their contribution to the state was small in relation to the potential benefit to the company," said Foglesong, the Cornell Professor of Political Science at Rollins College in Winter Park.

The road project "has the benefit of potentially siphoning cars off of I-4, which would appear to serve the benefit of all commuters in Central Florida. But it clearly serves Disney's pecuniary interests as well."

Scott Powers can be reached at spowers@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5441.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
jcraycraft said:
Still, public planners applauded the idea that the new Disney route could divert thousands of cars a day off I-4. Disney estimates the new road would carry 15,000 vehicles a day in its first year. If traffic grows, Disney plans to widen Western Way to six lanes.
If it eases congestion and increases road safety on I-4 then why not. Plus it will make life easier for guests staying off property to approach the parks from different directions and again cut down on congestion within WDW
 

bears163

Active Member
wow they kept that such a secret seems like alot of people did not know about the road and from i have read it is almost done. great news for better roads and less traffic
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
bears163 said:
wow they kept that such a secret seems like alot of people did not know about the road and from i have read it is almost done. great news for better roads and less traffic
Only the local officials did not know about the road (which is typical). It has been discussed on here for a long time now.
 

hcswingfield

Active Member
Wow! This is almost as exciting as finding out about a new attraction being built. I drive the I-75/Turnpike/ I-4 route, and will LOVE a way to bypass Orlando and I-4!!!!! :sohappy:
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
warlord said:
someone draw me a map so i can visualize this.

for me I always take turnpike to 27 to 192
In that case you will now want to take toll road 429 from the turnpike then change to Western Way. You will go right into Disney and meet up with Buena Vista drive betweem Blizzard Beach and Coronado Springs.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
warlord said:
someone draw me a map so i can visualize this.

for me I always take turnpike to 27 to 192

Just goto http://maps.google.com and grab a map for Orlando, FL. Click on the map and drag it around until you find what you want. :)

Anything that can alleviate traffic on I-4 is a good thing. I'll still take 417 in when/if we drive, but that's my preference.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
HauntedPirate said:
Just goto http://maps.google.com and grab a map for Orlando, FL. Click on the map and drag it around until you find what you want. :)

Anything that can alleviate traffic on I-4 is a good thing. I'll still take 417 in when/if we drive, but that's my preference.
That won't work as neither the new toll road 429 or Disney's new road are on the maps yet.
 

DizWiz

Active Member
Here's the map from the Orlando Sentinel:

Western_Way.jpg
 

alanindy

New Member
I have to agree it's very odd that local officials didn't know about this. I stayed at the Coronado Springs the first week of May, saw the road under construction, asked questions of the bus drivers about it and they said it was a new access road for the West side of the property and will connect to another road on the far North side of Disney property. Leave it to beaurocrats to not know what's happening in their own back yard.
 

LaughingGravy

Well-Known Member
Is this road only going to be for Disney Ticket holders/ on-site guests and staff with a gate at either end to insure such, or will anyone be able to go on it like an interstate? Would non-disney trucks be allowed to use it for transporting goods to non-disney property sites?
Is it a private road, or is it just on private property?
What if Disney(Reedy Creek Improvement District) decides in the future to shut it down to turn it into an airport?
They could theoretically do that, right?
 

Dr Albert Falls

New Member
I've seen the road. It will run RIGHT behind Expedition Everest. Unfortunately--- unlike Disneyland's Matterhorn that can be seen from all directions as you approach the park--- Everest is only a HALF mountain (the backside is a plain industrial warehouse). People driving on this new road will likely view quite an eyesore as they come and go from the property.

FYI--- The road will be no different than World Drive, Epcot Center Blvd, Hotel Plaza Blvd, or Osceola Parkway--- just another access road that anyone can use (A "private" road, versus "public", means the landowner pays for maintainance, instead of taxpayers)
 

Lokheed

Well-Known Member
When they say "private road" they only mean that the road is owned and maintained entirely by Disney, and not by the county. All of the roads on Disney property are private in that sense, but only the "backstage" roads are restricted. That being said, it wouldn't be useful as a through-road for very many people (any more than World Drive is now).
 

Lokheed

Well-Known Member
Dr Albert Falls said:
I've seen the road. It will run RIGHT behind Expedition Everest. Unfortunately--- unlike Disneyland's Matterhorn that can be seen from all directions as you approach the park--- Everest is only a HALF mountain (the backside is a plain industrial warehouse). People driving on this new road will likely view quite an eyesore as they come and go from the property.

That would be unusual for Disney not to be extremely conscious of sight lines. This is only a wild guess, but I would suspect that between now and next spring they would install some kind of landscaping to screen out that view.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
LaughingGravy said:
Is this road only going to be for Disney Ticket holders/ on-site guests and staff with a gate at either end to insure such, or will anyone be able to go on it like an interstate? Would non-disney trucks be allowed to use it for transporting goods to non-disney property sites?
Is it a private road, or is it just on private property?
What if Disney(Reedy Creek Improvement District) decides in the future to shut it down to turn it into an airport?
They could theoretically do that, right?
Easy there. It will be just like any road that goes in to Disney such as World Drive and Osceola Parkway. I highly doubt any trucks will use it as you suggest. As for the airport comment, I'm not going to touch that as I assume you were joking.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Dr Albert Falls said:
I've seen the road. It will run RIGHT behind Expedition Everest. Unfortunately--- unlike Disneyland's Matterhorn that can be seen from all directions as you approach the park--- Everest is only a HALF mountain (the backside is a plain industrial warehouse). People driving on this new road will likely view quite an eyesore as they come and go from the property.

FYI--- The road will be no different than World Drive, Epcot Center Blvd, Hotel Plaza Blvd, or Osceola Parkway--- just another access road that anyone can use (A "private" road, versus "public", means the landowner pays for maintainance, instead of taxpayers)
You must be slightly mistaken. The new Disney road doesn't go RIGHT behing everest. It travels along the southern border of Coronado Springs and then turns north and head towards the water treatment plant. It really doesnt get any closer to Everest than the Coronado Springs.
 

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