Disney returning to Traditional Animation?

imagineer99

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Disney's acqusition of Pixar may have awesome results! From this short article, it seems that may let Pixar handle 3-D, and do the good ole' fashioned 2-D stuff themselves.

By Sheigh Crabtree

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Don Hahn, a producer at Walt Disney Feature Animation, will assume the role of interim head of WDFA until Disney's acquisition of Pixar Animation Studios is complete.

Walt Disney Studios chairman ________ Cook informed studio employees of Hahn's assignment late Thursday in a company-wide e-mail.

"I am pleased to announce that Don Hahn has graciously agreed to be the interim head of Disney Feature Animation until the Pixar acquisition is complete," Cook wrote. "Effective immediately, Don will be responsible for all aspects of this incredible organisation. I know that you will give Don your full support and cooperation."

Hahn will take over many of the duties of outgoing president David Stainton, who is expected to take another position within the Disney organisation.

Hahn stood beside Ed Catmull and John Lasseter last month when the newly appointed president and chief creative officer of the Pixar and Disney animation studios toured WDFA a day after Disney announced its plan to buy Pixar.

Hahn and Lasseter have a history dating back almost two decades. The two first worked together at Disney on the 1981 production of "The Fox and the Hound," the crew of which is a veritable who's who of power players in today's animation community.

Hahn was an early and ardent champion of Pixar inside Disney when the fledgling computer animation boutique first began producing "Toy Story" in the early '90s. When Disney's first deal with an as-yet-unproven Pixar was challenged by doubters, Hahn was quoted as saying, "Pixar has the ability to be small and naughty, to be fleet of foot."

Hahn is known to be an advocate of the many styles and techniques of animation, from 3-D to hand-drawn 2-D and stop-motion as well as integration of 2-D and live action. He was an associate producer on 1988's "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and a producer on 1991's "Beauty and the Beast," 1994's "The Lion King" and 1996's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame."

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

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Legacy

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Until it's officially announce... I won't believe it.

When it is announced... I'll be hesitant.

When the first one is released... I will watch the box office.

When it proves to be a smash and it seems Disney is back to what it's suppose to be doing... I will absolutely frickin' crap myself because the dream that died for me will come back to life.

I could still be a traditional animator for Disney...
 

barnum42

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As per Legacy's post - I'll believe it when I see it. But provided the film has good characters and story I'll be very happy on that day.
 

dandaman

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Indeed, seeing is believing. I'd really like to see a good 2-D epic from Disney, "like the good 'ol days".

P.S. objr... your avatar is mucho creepy. :lol:
 

DarkMeasures

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The interesting thing about my Major is that I will be trained to be able to animate in both 2D Hand drawn and 3D computer animation.

I am not sure on 2D computer animation but eventually I will learn Flash.
 

dxwwf3

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Well if it's true that Disney wants 2 Pixar movies out per year, it shouldn't take too long until they saturate the market and people will want to see something different, being traditional hand drawn animation.
 

imagineer99

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I have no doubt that "seeing is believing."

Nevertheless, dxwwf3 brings up a good point regarding market saturation. Is Disney really going to want to compete with its own product?

By creating something visually different, they would be able to distance themselves from Pixar. However, it should be noted that Curious George's mediocre 14 million dollar pull doesn't look promising.
 

dxwwf3

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imagineer99 said:
However, it should be noted that Curious George's mediocre 14 million dollar pull doesn't look promising.

BUT it was released in a weak period going up against Pink Panther (With the Beyonce fan base and a family friendly PG rating), Final Destination 3 (Some people like horror movies I guess), and Firewall (New Harrison Ford thriller. 'Nuff Said). And it actually beat Firewall. To me, CG's opening weekend was very promising. It's like Ebert said, CG was NOT a family movie. It was a kids movie and it competed against the Pink Panther film that appealed to a much wider audience base. So I think if you look at it that way, CG did quite well.
 

Connor002

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2D or 3D, it's not that style that matters, to me it's the "Disney Spirit" of a movie that's important... but maybe that's just me...
 
Actually, the article just states Don Hahns past with the company, he won't hold this position long enough to actually do anything. As for Lasseter tho, he is a huge fan and supporter of 2D animation and Pixar was looking into creating their own 2D department so that they could make 2D films. This probably won't happen now with the merger, but Lasseter will have say as to what kind of films get made.

I, myself had the same dream that Legacy had ripped right out from underneath him. I love animation, went to school and have a degree that covers both 2D and 3D animation and I do occasional work on television commercials, but it was a very harsh and saddening thing the day that Disney closed up shop.

I hold a lot of faith in Lasseter tho. The one thing that has to seen tho, is that the Disney "of the good 'ol days" is done. It's time to move on and embrace whatever it's future may be. Even Frank and Ollie knew after seeing the Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, that this was no longer the Disney that they worked for, that a new day and age had begun.

It'll probably take another 4-5 years before we see another traditional feature out of Disney...first off, they have zero of them in the development pipeline, second, they take about 4 years to make...so...it'll be a while, but the talent still remains...mostly....at Disney, now granted, they laid a lot of that talent off, but the major players were kept.

As for Beauty and the Beast being quality....I don't know about that. I love the movie, the story was amazingly strong...........but the animation, overall was good, but the characters looked different from scene to scene and were very inconsistent. For example, look at Belle as she is walking down the hall way of the West Wing, looking in the mirrors...then compare that to her facial features when she's cleaning the wounds on Beasts arms...then compare that to how she looks at the beginning of the films walking through town. Each time, Belles appearance changes, and this is not how these films are to be made. It's not about individual expression of the artist...they are paid to draw that character exactly the same every time...they are trained to draw that character just like their co-workers. There is no room for deviation and this film has a ton of it. Watch Aladdin and see how deviation there is in Aladdin or Jafar or Jasmine or the Genie. This shows the artists at their peaks, no deviation is character model whatsoever. I still love Beauty and the Beast completely and it's still one of my personal favorites, but it lacks artistically the consistency of every other Disney films ever created. I've read interviews with some of the animators and they said they couldn't believe that amount of alteration in the character designs as the film went on.....a couple of them, said that it was unacceptable and that Walt probably wouldn't have released the film until the issues were corrected.
 

Epcot82Guy

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dxwwf3 said:
Well if it's true that Disney wants 2 Pixar movies out per year, it shouldn't take too long until they saturate the market and people will want to see something different, being traditional hand drawn animation.

Here here for market saturation problems! I really think this might be the cause of most of current Disney's problems. I hope they maintain some balance, but I DO hope 2D comes back with classic Disney flair. I agree that "I will believe it when I see it;" I'm just glad to be in a position where I can say that statement founded on some possibility.
 

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