HolleBolleGijs
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Yes! I’ve never had a problem bringing my own stainless steel straw. Also consider bringing your own utensils (sometimes I’ve had trouble with my metal fork, but bamboo is never an issue).
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News Disney removing plastic straws and more by mid-2019
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Yes! I’ve never had a problem bringing my own stainless steel straw. Also consider bringing your own utensils (sometimes I’ve had trouble with my metal fork, but bamboo is never an issue).
rnese
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Their, they're. Don't allow are use of not good grammer effect you.
peter11435
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None of Disney’s fleet is decades old. The oldest buses in the fleet are from the mid 2000’s but most are significantly newer than that.
Also to your point they are investing hundreds on millions in a new electric based gondola system that will take a large number of buses off the roads. And it’s only the beginning of transportation infrastructure improvements.
peter11435
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Not even sure what you are trying to say here. I am in favor of it and it does affect me.
rnese
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Perhaps we should organize a "boycott" of Disney sponsors, or have a "March on Mainstreet USA"?
I have no hatred of this policy whatsoever. But it is more symbolism over substance.
Actual real impactful environmental reforms would never be undertaken because it would not be profitable. Unless of course everyone wants to pay more for it...
ToTBellHop
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It doesn't directly affect me, but it affects how seriously I take someone else's thoughts on a subject.Their, they're. Don't allow are use of not good grammer effect you.
No. I think you should just leave and go to Dollywood instead. I'm sure they have straws.
May your WDW exit be lined with benches made from recycled plastics.
DisneyDebRob
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Personally I haven’t used a straw for any beverage in probably 40 years. Straws are not my thing. If anyone has seen the video of the sea turtle with a straw stuck in his nostril, it’s horrific. Google it if you wan to see it. I’m not leaving a link because it’s horre to watch if you care about animals and what they go through. These are the things that fire people up. You know what? That’s a good thing. Once in awhile we all have to come out of our lives and see what’s really going on. Put me down as every little bit helps, whether it’s for publicity or actually caring.
geekza
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MK used to use paper straws back in the day. They sucked. With that said, a box of straws is dirt cheap at the grocery store, so if you really need or prefer them, just shove a box into whatever bag you're carrying with you into the park. Yes, I'm sure this wouldn't be happening if someone hadn't shown data on a spreadsheet showing a potential cost saving for Disney, but with the amount of people who come to WDW every year, I guess every little bit helps. Inconvenient? Yes. Outrage-worthy? Nah.
According to Oceancrusaders.org:
The relevancy of this data in regards to plastic straws is up in the air. But if you want to tackle a real problem, why bother with something so small and annoying? Try collaborating with Musk (Tesla) or whomever and invest in clean air / clean energy. The amount of pollution we breathe in is awful.
When you look at "mismanaged plastic" (IOW, not recycled, not sequestered, just dumped somewhere) that winds up in the ocean, there are several Asian countries that are out of control with just dumping all their plastic there. Their wanton disregard dwarfs what other countries do. It can make what other countries do look trivial **by comparison**.
But in absolute terms, hundreds of thousands of metric tons of 'mismanaged' plastic is getting into the oceans via the U.S. per year. That's not good. Pointing out that there are countries doing twenty to fifty times worse doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing better.
So, the comparison is purposely meant to trivialize a still-important issue (thanks, big petrol and knee-jerk wingnuts!).
Further trivializing the issue is pointing out how much of the U.S.'s plastic is straws. Such a tiny, tiny fraction! But the problem with straws is the outsized effect they have on aquatic animals. Also, a tiny fraction of hundreds of thousands of metric tons is still... a lot.
Getting back to the country comparisons... do you know why the U.S. dumps *relatively* little plastic into the ocean *compared to* those Asian countries? It's precisely because of efforts to *manage* our plastic garbage through reduction in use, re-use in recycling, and disposing in landfills rather than the ocean. It's because of efforts like McDonald's using recycled paper and paper board and all the other stuff like switching to papers straws that we don't have as much plastic garbage to dump in the ocean as the Philippines. Or do you think that somehow the Philippines are producing ten times the amount of garbage overall than the U.S.? Nobody beats our consumption!!
It's not our low consumption that makes us relatively light polluters of the ocean, it's our efforts to manage plastic waste effectively. If we weren't doing all this environmental 'stuff' like switching to paper, we'd be right up there with China.
And that's why the comparison chart doesn't prove that switching to paper straws is an idiotic fool's quest, but it proves that all our efforts of conservation are working.
Tom P.
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Disney is banning plastic straws because they are so committed to being environmentally friendly, but they are accepting sponsorship money to hand out plastic bags by the truckload. That should tell you everything you need to know about where Disney really stands and what the real motivation is.
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rnese
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Don't you mean "lined"? How am I supposed to take your thoughts seriously on this subject?
Just so you are aware. Only 61 of Disney's 390+ busses use the Cummins ISL9 engine which is the only engine type active in their fleet which meet 2010 EPA Clean Diesel Engine Requirments.
Additionally 169 of their busses were built prior to 2008 these busses do not have any clean diesel technology at all.
Ya, know...
<looks left, looks right, whispers...>
You can drink your drink without any straw at all... just like for almost every alcoholic or hot beverage...
<looks left, looks right, whispers...>
You can drink your drink without any straw at all... just like for almost every alcoholic or hot beverage...
PrincessNelly_NJ
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Why does this have to be an all or nothing thing? You have to start somewhere. I'm not saying you are wrong about this being done because of a social media push but I just don't understand the big deal. They decided to reduce their plastic waste. Period. No matter how small, no matter if its enough to make a substantial difference... it has to start somewhere right?
Every big movement started somewhere by someone.
Can you provide video or picture of just handfuls of plastic bags being shoved into guests' hands, please? Thanks a bunch!
ToTBellHop
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One day, the Carousel of Progress will be updated and we will laugh at how Uncle Orville, the old racist, carelessly threw shopping bags in the trash while his millennial great-nephew rolls his eyes with remarkable believability due to advances in Audio-Animatronics figures. They are currently working on making a believable man-bun for him.
PizzaPlanet
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I actually like the texture of the paper straws at DAK. The only thing is that you will occasionally need two if your first gets soggy.