Disney redesigns the Seven Dwarfs

[Mr_Incredible]

Yup and tv's should still look like this:

cars too:

They are ruining the cars legacy by updating them for a new generation!!!!!!!! *shakes fist in air*


Now, my post is MOSTLY tongue in cheek....but seriously....who cares? It's a kids tv show. Doesn't bother me. Never understood why something like this would bother someone so much.....much bigger fish to fry.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Yup and tv's should still look like this:

cars too:

They are ruining the cars legacy by updating them for a new generation!!!!!!!! *shakes fist in air*


Now, my post is MOSTLY tongue in cheek....but seriously....who cares? It's a kids tv show. Doesn't bother me. Never understood why something like this would bother someone so much.....much bigger fish to fry.

Those aren't updates. Those are improvements. There is a difference, you know. Unless you think the new designs ARE an improvement. (But of course, if you do, that's your opinion. I don't agree with it, but I respect it).

At any rate, if those designs don't bother you, yay! But I wonder why it does seem to bother you that some of us don't like them, and why you feel the need to post snarky and condescending comments about our honest opinions? I'll never understand that kind of attitude...much bigger fish to fry.

 

[ellie-badge]

At any rate, if those designs don't bother you, yay! But I wonder why it does seem to bother you that some of us don't like them, and why you feel the need to post snarky and condescending comments about our honest opinions? I'll never understand that kind of attitude...much bigger fish to fry.

It doesn't bother us in the slightest that you don't like the designs. I don't particularly like the designs, either. What bothers me is that you seemed to lash out towards those who disagreed with you and automatically claimed that they didn't respect the classics. :/

 

[Magenta Panther]

Talk about puzzling logic. What does a show being animated or live action have to do with anything? Once Upon a Time gets a free pass, but The 7D doesn't?

Disney owns ABC just as much as it owns Disney Jr., in case you didn't realize. With your logic from earlier, the dwarfs featured in Once Upon a Time would be just as much of an "extension" as the dwarfs in this new show would be.

You have some serious problems if you think I don't appreciate the classics just because I disagree with your original post, let alone mocking what I originally said in mine. If anything, you're the one making excuses for your irrational behavior.

Take a chill pill or something.

Of course "Once Upon A Time" gets a free pass for new realizations of the dwarfs. Just like "The Lion King" stage show gets a free pass for its differences from the film. Because both are live-action retellings, and the demands of the mediums require that there are differences. Why do you find that so hard to understand? But no such excuse exists for the radical change of the Dwarfs' appearances for the new animated show - unless the suits in Disney feel the new show has to look like "Adventure Time" or the kids won't watch. That kind of logic is simply baffling, given the consistent appeal of the original SW film. If the original designs of the Dwarfs needed to be streamlined or simplified somewhat for Flash animation, that would be understandable. But to radically redesign them? To what purpose, aside from the appalling one I've already mentioned?

"Irrational"? Is it rational for you to visit threads and post sneering comments towards those who express negative opinions? You've been doing that, and not just on this thread. And what good does that do, exactly? Does it give you an ego boost or something? That's just sad.

 

[Magenta Panther]

It doesn't bother us in the slightest that you don't like the designs. I don't particularly like the designs, either. What bothers me is that you seemed to lash out towards those who disagreed with you and automatically claimed that they didn't respect the classics. :/

If you do respect the classics, as it were, I'm glad. But you really oughtn't to use the word "sheesh" when commenting on someone's opinion. Not if you don't want a taste of snarkiness in return. Just saying.

 

[ellie-badge]

Of course "Once Upon A Time" gets a free pass for new realizations of the dwarfs. Just like "The Lion King" stage show gets a free pass for its differences from the film. Because both are live-action retellings, and the demands of the mediums require that there are differences. Why do you find that so hard to understand? But no such excuse exists for the radical change of the Dwarfs' appearances for the new animated show - unless the suits in Disney feel the new show has to look like "Adventure Time" or the kids won't watch. That kind of logic is simply baffling, given the consistent appeal of the original SW film. If the original designs of the Dwarfs needed to be streamlined or simplified somewhat for Flash animation, that would be understandable. But to radically redesign them? To what purpose, aside from the appalling one I've already mentioned?

"Irrational"? Is it rational for you to visit threads and post sneering comments towards those who express negative opinions? You've been doing that, and not just on this thread. And what good does that do, exactly? Does it give you an ego boost or something? That's just sad.

So, a live-action adaptation of Snow White's story with radically different designs and back story aired on a network owned entirely by Disney is okay... but a children's show doing the same thing on a television block owned by Disney is not? It's the same thing, just with different mediums. They could have made the characters from Once Upon a Time look much more similar to their cartoon counterparts, but they didn't... because it's not supposed to be based on any of Disney's films, and neither is this new cartoon.

I didn't come here to post sneering comments, nor do I lurk the forums solely to post sneering comments elsewhere, as you seem to believe. My original post was hardly condescending, or at least it wasn't meant to be. I simply said that it's likely supposed to be a different take on the seven dwarfs from the original fairy tale. I added "sheesh" at the end, because... well, you were getting really worked up over nothing, and you were making quick accusations to previous posters that they didn't seem to respect the classics, either. Hence my reasoning to use "sheesh" at the end of my post.

Having said that, did it warrant you to demean my intelligence ("Your logic, if it can be called that, is puzzling."), mock me with the overuse of a single word, frequently use all caps (which basically looked like yelling) to emphasize your points, and assume that I didn't have the capability to appreciate Walt Disney's classics? Much less bitterly mention my disagreement with you on another thread?

I didn't mean to come off as rude as I may have appeared with the addition of "sheesh," but I mean, with the reply you gave me afterwards, I don't think I was that wrong for being a little huffy with my next response...

 

[Mr_Incredible]

If they were re-making the movie to reach a wide array of people, I'd be upset. But considering its a kids (infant/toddler) show, it's not a big deal. This has been done before for little kids. Things have been tweaked or changed to make it more young kid friendly. Like some of the super hero cartoons I've seen where iron man has a ridiculous looking mask or batman looks geeky and childish. It's to appeal to little kids. It's happened before. I don't think it's "Disney being Disney" or someone running the show now just ruining the old Walt way like its being perceived they are. Just my .02

 

[Magenta Panther]

So, a live-action adaptation of Snow White's story with radically different designs and back story aired on a network owned entirely by Disney is okay... but a children's show doing the same thing on a television block owned by Disney is not? It's the same thing, just with different mediums. They could have made the characters from Once Upon a Time look much more similar to their cartoon counterparts, but they didn't... because it's not supposed to be based on any of Disney's films, and neither is this new cartoon.

I didn't come here to post sneering comments, nor do I lurk the forums solely to post sneering comments elsewhere, as you seem to believe. My original post was hardly condescending, or at least it wasn't meant to be. I simply said that it's likely supposed to be a different take on the seven dwarfs from the original fairy tale. I added "sheesh" at the end, because... well, you were getting really worked up over nothing, and you were making quick accusations to previous posters that they didn't seem to respect the classics, either. Hence my reasoning to use "sheesh" at the end of my post.

Having said that, did it warrant you to demean my intelligence ("Your logic, if it can be called that, is puzzling."), mock me with the overuse of a single word, frequently use all caps (which basically looked like yelling) to emphasize your points, and assume that I didn't have the capability to appreciate Walt Disney's classics? Much less bitterly mention my disagreement with you on another thread?

I didn't mean to come off as rude as I may have appeared with the addition of "sheesh," but I mean, with the reply you gave me afterwards, I don't think I was that wrong for being a little huffy with my next response...

They could have made the characters from Once Upon a Time look much more similar to their cartoon counterparts, but they didn't... because it's not supposed to be based on any of Disney's films, and neither is this new cartoon.

Again with this. They used the same names as per the original characters...how could they NOT be based on the Disney film? If Disney believes that the audience isn't going to connect the two, it's dead wrong and very foolish. If it wanted to avoid comparison, it should, in both cases, have given the dwarfs different names. At any rate, as I mentioned before, the differences in the dwarfs in the live-action has some excuse because THEY'RE live-action, not animated, and an exact match in appearance isn't possible (unless the actors dressed up in the Disney park walk-around Dwarf suits ) so Disney can be cut some slack in that instance. But coming up with another animated cartoon starring the dwarfs, using the same dwarf names and (one assumes) the same dwarf personalities but with a radically different and (in my opinion) terrible design is an instant invitation to comparison and criticism. Again, if you like them, fine. But others do not, and their (and my) opinions are as valid as yours. Like it or not.

As for my demeaning your intelligence, well, you demeaned my concern. So I don't think I was that wrong for me to give some of your snark back at you. I'm glad, however, that you didn't mean to be rude, so I apologize for my reaction.

 

[ellie-badge]

Again with this. They used the same names as per the original characters...how could they NOT be based on the Disney film? If Disney believes that the audience isn't going to connect the two, it's dead wrong and very foolish. If it wanted to avoid comparison, it should, in both cases, have given the dwarfs different names. At any rate, as I mentioned before, the differences in the dwarfs in the live-action has some excuse because THEY'RE live-action, not animated, and an exact match in appearance isn't possible (unless the actors dressed up in the Disney park walk-around Dwarf suits ) so Disney can be cut some slack in that instance. But coming up with another animated cartoon starring the dwarfs, using the same dwarf names and (one assumes) the same dwarf personalities but with a radically different and (in my opinion) terrible design is an instant invitation to comparison and criticism. Again, if you like them, fine. But others do not, and their (and my) opinions are as valid as yours. Like it or not.

As for my demeaning your intelligence, well, you demeaned my concern. So I don't think I was that wrong for me to give some of your snark back at you. I'm glad, however, that you didn't mean to be rude, so I apologize for my reaction.

Well, I don't think either show is supposed to be based exclusively on Disney's films, but there's no arguing that Once Upon a Time drew a lot of inspiration from them. One can make many comparisons, I'm not saying you can't, but to say that the show is Disney's re-imagining of all of their classics, modern or not, is a bit of a stretch, and I think many other people would be more upset if that were the case. I just think they're sneaking in so many Disney references for familiarity's sake, but are otherwise just retelling the original fairytales, not necessarily their animated counterparts (I don't think The Beast from Disney's Beauty and the Beast is supposed to be Rumpelstiltskin in disguise ). I would hope the same could be said about The 7D, but after having skimmed through the article you provided in your original post, it'd be safe to assume that it's not supposed to be related to Walt Disney's film at all.

If it's supposed to be, though (it's too early to tell), people will most certainly complain and the show won't last long, I assure you. As a previous poster mentioned, they tried doing the same thing with My Friends Tigger and Pooh, and because so many parents and even children didn't like the changes they made, they were quick to cancel and take it off the air, as well as pull Darby completely out of the theme parks for meet-and-greets.

I am far from liking the designs, as I previously mentioned (I actually can't tell which dwarf is supposed to be Dopey, honestly), and I'll likely never watch this show. I don't mind that you don't like or plan on watching it, I'm just trying to explain the reasoning for my opinion, that's all.

I apologize as well. Forgive and forget, I say.

 

[Contrast]

This makes me really upset.

 

[bethymouse]

Did they learn nothing from My Friends Tigger and Pooh?

My boys loved that show! But, they always asked,"Where's Darby?"...

 

[bethymouse]

If you do respect the classics, as it were, I'm glad. But you really oughtn't to use the word "sheesh" when commenting on someone's opinion. Not if you don't want a taste of snarkiness in return. Just saying.

From Cars Sarge says," respect the classics, man".