graphite1326
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Nothing. The post is saying it cost the same for 2 to go now as it cost 4 to go in 1996.
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Disney Prices, Are They High Enough?
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Po'Rich
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There you go again -- letting your assumptions get ahead of your knowledge. Oh wise one, perhaps you can explain how questioning spending $5-6 grand for WDW in the same year that one needs to spend $7 grand for a new A/C unit is a "bad financial habit" or "running too close to the edge"?
The point that I was making was that while WDW requires more preplanning than ever, recent policy changes make it harder and harder to spread out the costs of WDW over multiple years. DVC is actually a good financial decision if one intends to return because, through DVC, one can prepay for years of resort trips and thus eliminate the need to worry about price increases (as someone else mentioned).
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Chef Mickey
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I've gotta talk to your A/C guy.
MickeyLuv'r
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It is probably a combination, sure. Much of my point was simply that WDW vacation variables aren't a fixed thing. There are many ways to modify the overall cost.
Some folks also swear off one version of say - the dining plan- maybe when they took away appetizers- but later give it another look when the terms change again - like the recent addition of alcohol.
Mind, I'm sure there is also plenty of hypocrisy.
MickeyLuv'r
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I don't cancel a trip - myself- because I can't theoretically afford a small fee.
But I CAN see myself cancelling a trip, or more often avoiding a business because I find that fee insulting or I'm just uncomfortable with it.
I also won't keep going to WDW hotels if they aren't well maintained. AC out for a few hours, no big deal. Out multiples times, or all week and nobody fixes it - that is a different matter.
When I see a roach, mouse, or too many flies in a given restaurant, I don't go back. It has nothing to do with money. (Yes I know, some places I like probably have had mice/insects before and cleaned them up.)
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Chef Mickey
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I hear you on just getting fed up with it. I was just saying the usual price increases and/or fees should not really put it over the top as go or no go from a financial perspective.
I've left businesses over less than that, out of principle. Totally understand. But those places weren't Disney.
MickeyLuv'r
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I hear you on just getting fed up with it. I was just saying the usual price increases and/or fees should not really put it over the top as go or no go from a financial perspective.
I've left businesses over less than that, out of principle. Totally understand. But those places weren't Disney.
Yes, but well sometimes we think in those terms, so to speak, even though it isn't really true.
Once upon a time, I worked at a restaurant that served coffee at a relatively low price. Oh how the regulars complained bitterly when the price went up by 10 cents! Some stopped coming to us, even though pretty much every other restaurant in the area charged more then we did. Others came in just the same amount, but complained bitterly for a very long time.
In truth, most of them just lowered my tip by ten cents. They ACTUALLY kept paying the SAME total amount as before, but punished ME, because I had to listen to them gripe about it for months and months. I didn't raise the price, and my wages sure didn't increase.
People are funny like that.
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EngineerMom
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Do I think Disney has gotten REALLY expensive-yes.
So I wish it was cheaper-yes
Am I going to go-sometimes but each time I will have to look at our budget for the year
I went as a kid and then not until I was a parent. The preplanning was a change but now I’m used to it
In terms of making us pay for extras like parking, well one way of looking at it is if things are unbundled then you only have to pay for what you use.
So I wish it was cheaper-yes
Am I going to go-sometimes but each time I will have to look at our budget for the year
I went as a kid and then not until I was a parent. The preplanning was a change but now I’m used to it
In terms of making us pay for extras like parking, well one way of looking at it is if things are unbundled then you only have to pay for what you use.
EngineerMom
Active Member
Someone said paying for packages?
thecbk
New Member
Did they lower the price of the resorts by the same amount that they started charging for parking?
Bpmorley
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I don't really know about room rates(DVC since 2004). But everything else at disney has gone up way more than my paycheck has over the years. Disney is not out of my budget, but I do believe its value has gone down. I really don't know how many times I've gone there since 2000 but I know over the last few years it's been less and less, and for shorter stays. I think I rent more points out than I actually use anymore. It's not only the price of disney that adds up. We used to fly for $29 each out of philly back in 06 and 07. Those days are long gone. Lucky to get $200 now. That was ideal for long weekends when my schedule had me getting done Friday morning and not due back til Tuesday. After we go tired of waiting for disney transportation we would rent a car. Cars were under $100 for 12 days, now the taxes/fees are more than what they charge for the car. The end of this month I have a full size for a week. $58, but $109 in taxes and fees. Disney isn't the only greedy ones here. Anyway, my point, disney's value per dollar has taken a serious dip. We've started going other places that we feel we get more for our money.
NelsonRD
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Im not sure I understand?
Littleclown
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If you are like me and my family everything was about Disney. I grew up on the Mickey Mouse club on the television. As I had kids we planned and took our 2 children to Disney for them to experience the JOY of Disney. One of them even got married at Disney. When they were both married, wife and I bought the book seeing Disney without the kids. For 17 years we never missed a chance to go back and enjoy, the buts are now coming out. Looking at my history files I see that I stayed in a preferred room at Music in 2011 for 4 nights and had 5 day park hopper for $1110.00. Looking at last year, 7 years later, I stayed at Music in a preferred room at $1565.00 for the same 4 nights and 5 day park hopper. This year will be my first since 2000 that I will not be on a Disney property and do not know when, with now being on retirement, I will ever be able to afford the Magic. It hurts deeply that the price increases out run the cost of living so us older people have to choose what we do with our fixed income. They have just priced it beyond for older people, as well as for us older people to get around the huge crowds that show so little respect for the elderly among them. They all in a hurry to be first in line, instead enjoying where they are, and taking in the Magic.
jloucks
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They should increase prices based on supply and demand. ...just like they do on their cruise line. Our Thanksgiving cruise was about double the price of regular. And that is ok. What is not ok is that they let the parks get so crowded that only the gluttons for punishment go.
I think they should double the prices for everything. Start there. Do that, and I will visit again. ...assuming that drops the crowns by 30%+
Or, just have double price weeks a few times a year. That way, everybody wins.
jloucks
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That's what ours cost too. They both went out in 24 months of each other. They are pretty large tho. That included in indoor air handler.
Yep, I spend $14,000 in 24 months on temperature control.
jloucks
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I have to concur with this observation.
I'll add the value resorts were super clean and were not, in and of themselves, an issue. It was the people that were there in mass. Loud, entitled, rude, and all around just unpleasant. There was a large group of what I assume were prison parolees that hung around at the base of the stairs every evening. To be fair, they were pretty darn quite. Just, a giant lot of tattoos and tanktops to navigate every evening. The only thing I guess they really did wrong is undress my wife, and daughter, with their eyes every time we walked by. Maybe they were just really into their pants, belts, and shoes. maybe.
We upgrade to a moderate resort, and POOF! All fixed.
Chef Mickey
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I spent ~$13k on all new equipment heat, A/C, condensor, all new ductwork, and additional vents/return air. Maybe it was because I did new everything include duct work and added several vents and returns. I just changed to a 5 Ton unit from a 3.5 Ton. But man, was it worth it.That's what ours cost too. They both went out in 24 months of each other. They are pretty large tho. That included in indoor air handler.
Yep, I spend $14,000 in 24 months on temperature control.
Chef Mickey
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I purposely avoid value resorts because of the overall clientele. I'm not bashing people or saying I'm too good to stay there. I would, but it's like a dumpster fire of crazy people. They are loud, annoying, obnoxious, WAY too man poorly behaved kids, and just rude people in general. I have had much better luck at moderate/deluxe resorts and agree it's worth the extra money to avoid some of the nonsense. You get that in the parks anyway.
EngineerMom
Active Member
So I don’t like to make assumptions just looking at folks but I have seen folks post how much they had to save for their trip of a lifetime to Disney and feel they deserve special treatment. That it is fine for those of us who have already been to wait but they shouldn’t have to. Maybe because it’s me, I disagree. I feel we’re all equal on who should have to wait and how long.
And loved the post here of a mom complaining that the child swap was limited to 1 hour. As she stated I might as well have had my own fastpass. Then she said she went back to POP and complained and they gave her a later pass.....over the years we have missed a fastpass because it didn’t work out. We didn’t complain, it was the nature of the beast. One reason we miss the old paper passes is there were times when we had them and the kids had reached their limit. We would give them away and watch someone’s eyes light up!
Meanwhile our last trip it was crowded and we watched folks cutting the line. The worst was a mom on toy story mania. We let her pass us , figuring she was catching up with her party. It was a REALLY long line me and we were in the back. She went all the way to the front. My husband said now that’s a trick. Either she isn’t meeting anyone and just acted like she was or she and her husband could just take turns waiting in line and going to the front of the line!
And loved the post here of a mom complaining that the child swap was limited to 1 hour. As she stated I might as well have had my own fastpass. Then she said she went back to POP and complained and they gave her a later pass.....over the years we have missed a fastpass because it didn’t work out. We didn’t complain, it was the nature of the beast. One reason we miss the old paper passes is there were times when we had them and the kids had reached their limit. We would give them away and watch someone’s eyes light up!
Meanwhile our last trip it was crowded and we watched folks cutting the line. The worst was a mom on toy story mania. We let her pass us , figuring she was catching up with her party. It was a REALLY long line me and we were in the back. She went all the way to the front. My husband said now that’s a trick. Either she isn’t meeting anyone and just acted like she was or she and her husband could just take turns waiting in line and going to the front of the line!