Tim G
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Excuse me???
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Disney-Pixar Studios Theme Park?
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Tim G
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But luckely it isn't up to you... :lookarounAll I want is the Muppet Movie ride that was originally supposed to be built. I can go either way on any ride featuring Pixar characters, but I desperately want a Muppet ride... and now that Disney owns them... I just wish they would do something grand and over-the-top with them. Especially Gonzo
Epcot82Guy
Well-Known Member
Better be careful what you wish...
Not every change is for the good of the public...
Unless you would like to visit Pixar World, Florida...
Not on my watch...
As a faithful Disney shareholder, Ill always be against this...
Corrus, I certainly see your point. Although, there is a part of me that likes this change. I really wish they would abandon this homogonized, same park approach. I have to give Pixar the respect it deserves. It is, in my head anyway, the savior of Disney animation as of recent years (much more so due to Disney's failures that Pixar's success). The part of me that likes this is because I would like to see the Pixar approach get relegated to thispark. Of course there are elements that slip through and what not, but keep it more together.
Unfortunately, the saleability of characters seems to be the driving force for much of WDI's creative ventures as of late. (yes, some have come down the pipeline that are not, but let's remember development takes several years for a mutli-million dollar e-ticket. EE is a product of the early 90's, not the early 00's, really). I agree that Pixar-ization is no better than character-ization. COrporate Conglomerate World just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Tim G
Well-Known Member
Believe me I know how they work...
To me it's not the name change... but they already took over Tomorrowland... and now the Studios... (talking about homogonising)
Pixar will never keep up as many year as Disney did...
This all has to do with making a quick buck... (Corporate wise)
Ok. my shares are worth a bit more... I even got the humble request to put them on the market again... No Way...
But what would you expect from a CEO who eats from Steve Jobs' hand...
I all has to do with a sneaky corporate take-over... and I hate it...
Everyone thinks somehow these changes are for the good of the public... no way...
I saw it coming and therefore I left the same time Michael did...
Ok. he took large bonuses... but so will Robert Iger in the end... as agreed in his contract... (he got the same contact as michael Eisner) so there's no difference... but at least Michael kept loyal to he company...
Some of us really became of age and alot wiser... See what happened a while ago... Marty left... alot more left... And every ime Pixar moved more and more in...
I was absolutely not happy with the new management in Burbank... neither was Marty...
And that's what they were up to... a golden handshake and away we went.
They really don't care... (I know... I take it way to personal)
No Sir...
Every time I read such posts I always get upset...
Although my doctor objects to that because of my BP...
So I'll keep it to this post... sorry!
I've always worked like a horse for the Company, never even had a cold, 've seen most of the world... and now... :lookaroun :lookaroun I'm diabetic and got a high PB...
Anyway... don't take my words not too personal... but I had to get is of my chest...
Lee
Adventurer
Quote:Originally Posted by Champion
Because Lee is unreliable, am I right?
Excuse me???
No...excuse ME?!?!?!
Believe me I know how they work...
To me it's not the name change... but they already took over Tomorrowland... and now the Studios... (talking about homogonising)
Pixar will never keep up as many year as Disney did...
This all has to do with making a quick buck... (Corporate wise)
Ok. my shares are worth a bit more... I even got the humble request to put them on the market again... No Way...
But what would you expect from a CEO who eats from Steve Jobs' hand...
I all has to do with a sneaky corporate take-over... and I hate it...
Everyone thinks somehow these changes are for the good of the public... no way...
I saw it coming and therefore I left the same time Michael did...
Ok. he took large bonuses... but so will Robert Iger in the end... as agreed in his contract... (he got the same contact as michael Eisner) so there's no difference... but at least Michael kept loyal to he company...
Some of us really became of age and alot wiser... See what happened a while ago... Marty left... alot more left... And every ime Pixar moved more and more in...
I was absolutely not happy with the new management in Burbank... neither was Marty...
And that's what they were up to... a golden handshake and away we went.
They really don't care... (I know... I take it way to personal)
No Sir...
Every time I read such posts I always get upset...
Although my doctor objects to that because of my BP...
So I'll keep it to this post... sorry!
I've always worked like a horse for the Company, never even had a cold, 've seen most of the world... and now... :lookaroun :lookaroun I'm diabetic and got a high PB...
Anyway... don't take my words not too personal... but I had to get is of my chest...
Sitting here as an outside you have to wonder what is going on out there but then to hear this from someone like you....just kinda scary....
Tom Morrow
Well-Known Member
and you always believe what some random person posts on the internet?
the-reason14
Well-Known Member
woa, this is getting kinda heated. Please continue.
*gets movie snacks, and gets ready to read into it all*
*gets movie snacks, and gets ready to read into it all*
Iakona
Member
Lee is not "some random person" and has established considerable credibility here. You on the other hand, not so much. :animwink:
These rumor threads get interesting as they gather pages because they turn from a "will they, won't they" conversation into a "should they, shouldn't they" conversation. And as such, it's about time I add my two cents. Or is it sense? Regardless.
I'd rather the Studios be a Disney-Pixar park than a Disney-MGM park. Simply due to the fact that Pixar has made significant and considerable contributions to the company overall in the last decade. Without them, the only real memorable (or at least enjoyable, in my opinion) Disney animation from the last few years is Lilo and Stitch. Speaking with my little cousins, they're more enamored with Cars and Monsters, Inc. then they are with any other animated movies (one of them liked Shrek for a while, but we stifled that )
In all honesty though, I wish there was more un-branding of the parks. Less synergy! I like the idea of entering the movies at the Studios...I know it's Universal who has (or had?) the Ride the Movies slogan, but I think the Studios could (and should) do a better job of this. There's too much diversity in the park now and not enough of a solid concept of what the park is. In one corner we have the Indiana Jones stunt show and Star Tours, which represent a sort of behind-the-scenes aspect and a you're-in-the-movie aspect, respectively. On the other hand, we have The Muppets and RnRC...two concepts that could have fit into the movie theme a little better. But I digress.
Though I don't like the parks being Pixar, Pixar, Pixar all over the place, they've gotta go with what draws people in, and right now their most popular characters in their key demographic are Pixar ones. Maybe if they got back to rereleasing the classics into theaters every 7 years we could justify needing to keep our old favorites around, because they would be the next generation's favorites too.
Jeez, every time I talk about something I get carried away and write four paragraphs. I apologize.
I'd rather the Studios be a Disney-Pixar park than a Disney-MGM park. Simply due to the fact that Pixar has made significant and considerable contributions to the company overall in the last decade. Without them, the only real memorable (or at least enjoyable, in my opinion) Disney animation from the last few years is Lilo and Stitch. Speaking with my little cousins, they're more enamored with Cars and Monsters, Inc. then they are with any other animated movies (one of them liked Shrek for a while, but we stifled that
)In all honesty though, I wish there was more un-branding of the parks. Less synergy! I like the idea of entering the movies at the Studios...I know it's Universal who has (or had?) the Ride the Movies slogan, but I think the Studios could (and should) do a better job of this. There's too much diversity in the park now and not enough of a solid concept of what the park is. In one corner we have the Indiana Jones stunt show and Star Tours, which represent a sort of behind-the-scenes aspect and a you're-in-the-movie aspect, respectively. On the other hand, we have The Muppets and RnRC...two concepts that could have fit into the movie theme a little better. But I digress.
Though I don't like the parks being Pixar, Pixar, Pixar all over the place, they've gotta go with what draws people in, and right now their most popular characters in their key demographic are Pixar ones. Maybe if they got back to rereleasing the classics into theaters every 7 years we could justify needing to keep our old favorites around, because they would be the next generation's favorites too.
Jeez, every time I talk about something I get carried away and write four paragraphs. I apologize.
Lee
Adventurer
Honestly, I don't have any firm info either way. I do know that it has been discussed and has quite a bit of support. The suits see it as major piece of synergy. Why use MGM, an unrelated company, when they can capitalize on the popularity of Pixar? It makes great financial sense...just not so much creatively. Bears watching.....
Lee
Adventurer
:lol: (sorry)
Nice!:lol:
Tom Morrow
Well-Known Member
Ok, so then, tell me why Lee has such credibility. I've been on hiatus from this site for several years now, and now I remember why. Is he high up and "in the know" at WDW? Is he even a Cast Member? Or are you basing this on the high post count?
Haven't you heard the rule for things like this on the internet? Those who know, don't talk. Those who don't, speculate and make up things.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
By stating that you have been on hiatus from the site for several years, you nullify your opinions of anyone here. You don't have to trust me and I surely could be lying, but I both go to Yale (so I'm probably not a gullible moron) and I have a high post count here (so I've probably been here awhile and seen a lot), and I trust anything Lee or Corrus say (though I may sometimes disagree with their opinions, which is certainly my right) as fact. They don't make things up when they don't know and they have proven themselves time and again as accurate in what they say. There is such thing as a track record and they both have a strong one. After several years, those of us with piercing intellect are able to discern that there are only so many times that someone can "guess correctly" on an issue and we must therefore conclude that they are either in a position of knowing the truth or their are clairvoyants.
In the end, it is not recommended to speak of that which you know nothing about. Someone might mistake you for an obnoxious troll. Surely, that isn't what you are. You are or once were a Tower of Terror bellhop, so I immediately respect and perhaps envy you, but that does not make you privy to the inner workings of the Walt Disney Co.
Tom Morrow
Well-Known Member
Wow, only someone from Yale could sound so pretentious and snotty, and brag about the fact that they go to Yale.
Instead of bashing me for not being around to understand why you trust Lee, you could have just told me why you do, and how he is "in the know."
Also, you're right. I don't know anything about the Studios. I only work there and all. I know I'm just a regular Cast Member, but if the Studios' name was changing within the next 8 - 12 months, you would think there would be at least some signs. If it happens in less than a year, I'll be shocked.
Instead of bashing me for not being around to understand why you trust Lee, you could have just told me why you do, and how he is "in the know."
Also, you're right. I don't know anything about the Studios. I only work there and all. I know I'm just a regular Cast Member, but if the Studios' name was changing within the next 8 - 12 months, you would think there would be at least some signs. If it happens in less than a year, I'll be shocked.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
As I said, track record. And yes, only someone from Yale could point out that he goes to Yale. I wasn't bragging anymore than you are bragging that being a Tower of Terror bellhop makes you an expert on the upper management conversations regarding the Disney-MGM Studios. If it were the case that every WDW CM knew what was going on over at Team Disney, we would not need to have discussions like this since tens of thousands of people would know the answer to any question.
Even at Disney's increasingly sluggish pace, they can put up new signs faster than 12 months before a name-change.