News Disney Parks Chief Josh D'Amaro Says Pricing Model Aims to Keep Vacations Affordable for Families

JD80

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Again I think it's just the words we are all choosing to use and how we define them personally. Vacation vs. Trip for example.
 

Dranth

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I disagree with most just making day trips if in the area. If that was true parks like Cedar Point and Dollywood wouldn't have their own resorts. Most people visit those parks to 3-4 days.

As far as thrills go, I think it all depends on the family. For many with young kids or teens they may choose regional parks.
Of course some make those trips but they are in the minority. MOST folks are not going to do expensive trips flying around the country (or to other countries) to go to regional parks when they can just take a day trip to a local one.

Cedar would be one possible exception in that they have a well know reputation that draws in a lot of out of town folks. Dollywood somewhat, but it is much more local focused with the vast majority of its visitors coming from the sounding states.

I know some would, but I just doubt a large number of folks looking to replace a Disney vacation are going to think about going to Carowinds instead. Maybe a vacation that includes Carowinds, but not just for that.
 

Biff215

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We done that to and really enjoy Royal but the pricing for the new ships really has gotten up there, even if you plan on advance, at least what I have found (though know as a family of five not many options on most ships) so that it doesn't work out much cheaper for us than WDW

I have mentioned doing older ships but my kids got spoiled I think and aren't interested lol
This is definitely true of Icon Class, but they’ll come down eventually once the newness wears off and more ships enter service. We stick to Oasis Class for all the features but better deals.

Spinning this back to Disney, it will be interesting to see if DCL can still command higher prices when they double their fleet size. I’m sure Josh hopes to but that’s not usually how supply and demand works.
 

Andrew C

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This is definitely true of Icon Class, but they’ll come down eventually once the newness wears off and more ships enter service. We stick to Oasis Class for all the features but better deals.
Voyager and Freedom class for us. :)
Spinning this back to Disney, it will be interesting to see if DCL can still command higher prices when they double their fleet size
I am sure they will. I don't think it is really about fleet size but more about that they have positioned themselves as a luxury line. I struggle to get on DCL anymore as we are more limited on when we can go during the year. Typically, we are mostly open during peak season where the prices can be insane IMO. It is really why I have RCL and Celebrity booked this year instead.
 

Jrb1979

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Of course some make those trips but they are in the minority. MOST folks are not going to do expensive trips flying around the country (or to other countries) to go to regional parks when they can just take a day trip to a local one.

Cedar would be one possible exception in that they have a well know reputation that draws in a lot of out of town folks. Dollywood somewhat, but it is much more local focused with the vast majority of its visitors coming from the sounding states.

I know some would, but I just doubt a large number of folks looking to replace a Disney vacation are going to think about going to Carowinds instead. Maybe a vacation that includes Carowinds, but not just for that.
That's fair. I guess my fascination is not so much that people don't travel for regional parks. More that how little people really are into coasters and amusement rides.
 

Biff215

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Voyager and Freedom class for us. :)

I am sure they will. I don't think it is really about fleet size but more about that they have positioned themselves as a luxury line. I struggle to get on DCL anymore as we are more limited on when we can go during the year. Typically, we are mostly open during peak season where the prices can be insane IMO. It is really why I have RCL and Celebrity booked this year instead.
Nothing wrong with Voyager and Freedom Class, we’ve sailed them plenty!

I find it laughable that DCL wants to be considered a luxury line, only their pricing supports that in my opinion. We had a great cruise in 2019 on the Dream but followed it with Harmony and never looked back.

I really think Disney is crazy if they think they can continue to command these prices on the older ships once they have multiple new options available. I guess we’ll have to see what happens, but you’ll find me on Royal ships as long as I can take two trips for the price of one on DCL!
 

nickys

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As great as that sounds, I will say it I find it fascinating how so many of you choose a cruise in replacement of a Disney trip.

I'm always amazed that the many don't pick other parks to visit instead.
We don’t go to Disney for the rides. We enjoy the storytelling and immersive experiences.

Which is why we paid for a park to park ticket for Universal and rode two actual rides and the Hogwarts express train in both directions. In 6 hours. We rode ET and Gringotts. Explored Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade and walked through Hogwarts before taking the chicken exit.

If we just wanted rides there are plenty of parks in the UK and European mainland we could choose instead.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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That's fair. I guess my fascination is not so much that people don't travel for regional parks. More that how little people really are into coasters and amusement rides.
I think this is partially true, we LOVE coasters and amusement rides but we can’t repeat them like we used to, as a teen I could ride a coaster a dozen times in a row with no ill affects, now after one ride on a coaster like Velocicoaster or Cosmic Rewind I need an hour of moderate rides before I can even consider it again. The same is true of spinning rides, high G rides, etc. Something more moderate like Hagrids or Big Thunder I can still ride all day though.

I think Parks like Six Flags Magic Mountain and Cedar Point are very appealing to young people but far less appealing to families with young kids and older people. It’s not that we don’t like thrill rides, our bodies just don’t do well with them anymore.

That’s why parks like Disney are so unique, they have something for everyone from small kids to thrill seekers to old people, that’s not true of a lot of parks that are simply focused on thrill rides.
 
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Andrew C

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I find it laughable that DCL wants to be considered a luxury line, only their pricing supports that in my opinion. We had a great cruise in 2019 on the Dream but followed it with Harmony and never looked back.
I find the food (the food in the main dining room is my least favorite thing about RCL; I find it adequate at best, and this includes the Alaska cruise we did on Quantum) and service to be superior on DCL, and they do keep their older ships in better shape. I love the Disney Magic. With that being said, does it justify the cost? I guess that is up to each individual to decide. It seems there is plenty of demand for DCL and I prefer it over RCL. It is all cost for us...
 

Lilofan

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You misspelled, "hordes of people looking to be immersed in Disney magic and food and alcohol".
A number of them proudly wearing their themed drinking shirts while attempting to drink around the world. Who ever thought that the Epcot garbage cans at World Showcase would make sturdy drinking and food table tops for the hordes. One fellow guest even brought his own tablecloth to decorate his garbage can table top.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
A number of them proudly wearing their themed drinking shirts while attempting to drink around the world. Who ever thought that the Epcot garbage cans at World Showcase would make sturdy drinking and food table tops for the hordes. One fellow guest even brought his own tablecloth to decorate his garbage can table top.

Have you seen the new solar trash crunchers ? They about the same height as the tables.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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I find the food (the food in the main dining room is my least favorite thing about RCL; I find it adequate at best, and this includes the Alaska cruise we did on Quantum) and service to be superior on DCL, and they do keep their older ships in better shape. I love the Disney Magic. With that being said, does it justify the cost? I guess that is up to each individual to decide. It seems there is plenty of demand for DCL and I prefer it over RCL. It is all cost for us...
My GF did a RC cruise a few years ago and that was her main complaint, she said the food was just OK, based on that one RC cruise she said DCL is worth the extra cost. She also found RC more nightlife oriented which we’re a bit old for.

Our upcoming Princess cruise is my first non-DCL cruise so I’m a little nervous what to expect. The reviews are good but all I’ve ever experienced is DCL so the bar is pretty high.

We prefer the smaller DCL ships (Wonder, Dream) to the larger Wish so I’ve never really been drawn to the RC mega ships, I’m sure we’ll experience them at some point but I’m far most excited about our small upcoming Viking cruise that’s limited to 930 passengers.
 

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