News Disney offers to pay union members at least $15 by 2021

gorilla1964

New Member
This is going to result in a rapid acceleration in automation investment. Look for every Disney QS dining location to be mobile phone or touch-screen based ordering by 2021.
That will never happen because it costs too much and Disney's service will go down dramatically. They care too much about making guests happy.
 

Cado603

Member
I just wish they would be pickier in hiring... gone down hill there. Dirty bathrooms and for the first time in 18yrs no toilet paper in the ladies bathroom. Dirty looking CS too.
 

spock8113

Well-Known Member
Cost cutting=higher returns and happy shareholders. What's a park guest?
Who do think is going to pay for the Doppelmayr/Garaventa systems?

Higher pay never gives you better employees, just better complainers.
Overtime concessions will more than off-set this meager $15/hr.
Did the employees ever get their "Tax bonus"?
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I wonder, could higher wages lead to better employees? Hmmmm.

Are you referring to those who already work there, and are not performing their duties properly, or getting rid of all of them and hiring a new batch at the higher wage?

If someone doesn’t complete their basic duties at a $10 wage, they aren’t going to do it at $15. Assign some personal responsibility to people who WILLINGLY accept a job, and know the requirements of said job.
If you want to say that employees will be happier, friendlier, and have a little more pep in their step at $15, OK..but I suspect those same people would already be fulfilling their job duties.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Are you referring to those who already work there, and are not performing their duties properly, or getting rid of all of them and hiring a new batch at the higher wage?

If someone doesn’t complete their basic duties at a $10 wage, they aren’t going to do it at $15. Assign some personal responsibility to people who WILLINGLY accept a job, and know the requirements of said job.
If you want to say that employees will be happier, friendlier, and have a little more pep in their step at $15, OK..but I suspect those same people would already be fulfilling their job duties.
Ok.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Please answer this honestly..

Let’s say that one of your employees isn’t refilling the coffee pots in the mornings. Do you then give them a raise because you think it will make them prepare the coffee for your customers?
Uncle. Mercy. No mas. I quit.

There is no point debating with you. You will just keep moving the goal posts, and or, disappear to pollute another thread with your word vomit when you have been proven wrong.

Do everyone a favor and stick to the Political and chit chat threads.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Uncle. Mercy. No mas. I quit.

There is no point debating with you. You will just keep moving the goal posts, and or, disappear to pollute another thread with your word vomit when you have been proven wrong.

Do everyone a favor and stick to the Political and chit chat threads.

I’m asking a simple question.. you should be able to provide a simple answer.
Do you think that an employee who doesn’t complete their required duties now, is an employee who deserves a higher wage? Because that’s what it sounded like you were saying, but you may have been talking about replacing that employee altogether, which is why I asked for clarification.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
I’m asking a simple question.. you should be able to provide a simple answer.
Do you think that an employee who doesn’t complete their required duties now, is an employee who deserves a higher wage? Because that’s what it sounded like you were saying, but you may have been talking about replacing that employee altogether, which is why I asked for clarification.
We are talking in generalities. Not specific employees. Higher wages typically lead to a higher class of employee. Enough, I am out. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
We are talking in generalities. Not specific employees. Higher wages typically lead to a higher class of employee. Enough, I am out. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

If your Point was - Hire a new employee to replace the restroom attendant/s referenced, then I actually agree with you here.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Generalities you obtuse....

AWDFKOHSADFOAIHRFOIAHSFOh

I am also speaking in general. IF you are blaming dirty restrooms (which you did), or any other dereliction of job assignments on pay, then you are asking for those people to be replaced.. not given a raise. You want those people gone and a new batch of “better” people to replace them, a ‘better class’ who is attracted by a higher wage.

Regardless of the pay those people should perform basic duties of a job that they chose to accept.

That’s not an argument, because it’s not even possible to say otherwise.
 

Lensman

Well-Known Member
I’m asking a simple question.. you should be able to provide a simple answer.
Do you think that an employee who doesn’t complete their required duties now, is an employee who deserves a higher wage? Because that’s what it sounded like you were saying, but you may have been talking about replacing that employee altogether, which is why I asked for clarification.
FWIW, I don't think this is what @xdan0920 was saying at all. He's just stating that in general even for entry-level blue collar service industry jobs, offering higher pay than your competitors allows you to hire better employees than your competition.

I have a friend who is a trainer at a supermarket and she says that you can tell that her company gets the entry-level dregs because they offer lower pay than other supermarkets in her area.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
FWIW, I don't think this is what @xdan0920 was saying at all. He's just stating that in general even for entry-level blue collar service industry jobs, offering higher pay than your competitors allows you to hire better employees than your competition.

I have a friend who is a trainer at a supermarket and she says that you can tell that her company gets the entry-level dregs because they offer lower pay than other supermarkets in her area.
Yes, higher starting wage will increase the applicant pool. However, hiring procedure, on boarding, continuing training will dictate the selection and retention of quality employees.
 

Lensman

Well-Known Member
Yes, higher starting wage will increase the applicant pool. However, hiring procedure, on boarding, continuing training will dictate the selection and retention of quality employees.
Absolutely. I was just responding to the idea that offered pay has no relationship with the quality of your employees. My point is that it gives you a bigger pool from which you can hire the applicants with the best potential for being able to on-board and train successfully, and then to develop into great long-term associates.

No matter how good your hiring procedure, on boarding, and training is, if your pay is too low to attract qualified applicants, you're going to have a very hard time finding qualified staff and you're going to be tempted to lower your standards and take risks that you'll be able to develop them into great employees.
 

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