Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

mkt

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Disney may Eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Walt Disney World Resort on Friday said it's talking with the United Food & Commercial Workers about eliminating the jobs of 140 full- and part-time banquet servers and bartenders. Disney said in a statement that it's considering the layoffs "in order to create a more variable work force to accommodate the peaks and valleys of the banquet business, which is seasonal." Disney said about 1,400 of its employees are represented by the union. Union representatives did not return calls seeking comment. Disney says it has not reduced employment in that area for at least three years.


yet another reason I'm glad i'm no longer a CM. What's really sad is, these positions are usually sought and the waiting list for a position can be up to a year.



edited to correct the link, and to also quote the text from the article
 

barnum42

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Originally posted by mkt
"in order to create a more variable work force to accommodate the peaks and valleys of the banquet business, which is seasonal."


Bovine Stools. The suits just want more profit share for themselves and don’t care who they hurt.

Bitter? Me? Against corporate callousness?
 

Shaman

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Walt Disney World Resort on Friday said it's talking with the United Food & Commercial Workers about eliminating the jobs of 140 full- and part-time banquet servers and bartenders. Disney said in a statement that it's considering the layoffs "in order to create a more variable work force to accommodate the peaks and valleys of the banquet business, which is seasonal." Disney said about 1,400 of its employees are represented by the union. Union representatives did not return calls seeking comment. Disney says it has not reduced employment in that area for at least three years.

A reminder that even Disney has its dark side....after all before anything else (even the magic) The Walt Disney Company is a business....a big bad corporation....

:lookaroun :rolleyes: :animwink:

I hope most of these people can keep their jobs...if not I hope some other company is willing to take them in.....
 

Sir Hiss527

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yet another reason I'm glad i'm no longer a CM. What's really sad is, these positions are usually sought and the waiting list for a position can be up to a year.

Wait MKT, you don't work for Disney anymore? Man I guess it has been a while since i've been on the site.
 

mkt

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Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by Sir Hiss527
Wait MKT, you don't work for Disney anymore? Man I guess it has been a while since i've been on the site.

nope... I was liberated on July 30, 2003.... a day that shall live in infamy :lookaroun

front what I've been told, I got out at a good time... well, more forced out.
 

niteobsrvr

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Originally posted by mkt
Disney may Eliminate jobs of 140 servers




yet another reason I'm glad i'm no longer a CM. What's really sad is, these positions are usually sought and the waiting list for a position can be up to a year.



edited to correct the link, and to also quote the text from the article

A little house cleaning from time to time is not a bad thing. As a business, if you are doing things less efficiently than the rest of the world you have two choices. You can either get with the program or lose a revenue source altogether.

Change can be a good thing. Especially, if we still want to be visiting the Walt Disney World Resort 20 years from now.
 

barnum42

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Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
A little house cleaning from time to time is not a bad thing.

Picture this possibility in your future – after a decade of hard loyal work you find yourself “house cleaned”. You will may at that time start reappraising such callously cold statements.

Morality means nothing to greedy corporate fat cats. Please think about those people who learned it the hard way.
 

mkt

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Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by Corrus
And what are you doing right now???

working for another major Orlando area theme park as an entertainer, and in a local electronics store...

hopefully after auditions next week, I can land a full time position
 

Tim G

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Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by mkt
working for another major Orlando area theme park as an entertainer, and in a local electronics store...

hopefully after auditions next week, I can land a full time position

Let's say ... the one on Universal boulevard or the one on Central Florida Pkwy

Or is that too risky to tell...

If you want to back to mouse ... I mean, if you really want to...

I would like to give it a try...
 

mkt

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by Corrus
Let's say ... the one on Universal boulevard or the one on Central Florida Pkwy

Or is that too risky to tell...

If you want to back to mouse ... I mean, if you really want to...

I would like to give it a try...

the one on Universal Blvd... lol.

and while I would like my rehire back with Disney, I wouldn't return to work there for a few months at least. I want to remember what the outside is like. If I were to get my rehire back today, I'd probably return in May 2004....

but I will be back. After all, I will one day run that company... lol
 

mkt

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i retract my previous statement...

I would come back. Just not into entertainment (well... as Equity or as a Tech, yeah). I really wanted to be one of the stunt drivers in the new MGM show...
 

Tim G

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Originally posted by mkt
i retract my previous statement...

I would come back. Just not into entertainment (well... as Equity or as a Tech, yeah). I really wanted to be one of the stunt drivers in the new MGM show...
mis karimas Rob-san
Can't promise anything but certainly will give it a try...
How long you've been employed by the mouse... (approx)
 

mkt

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Originally posted by Corrus
mis karimas Rob-san
Can't promise anything but certainly will give it a try...
How long you've been employed by the mouse... (approx)

last run... 02/22/2000-07/30/2003

it's just depressing too for me... I had actually paid for stunt driving lessons and have 53 logged track hours with an instructor... I really wanted to be in that show...
 

mkt

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and before I forget, thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide
 
Well I'm not sure what is going on at the company. But I just found out a friend at the Contemporary was let go. It seemed to be that there were politics going on in her department, so that may have played a part. Still it is not cool.
 

markc

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Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

That's not a cold statement nor is disney showing a lack of morality. This is business. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to work for a company. By taking a job at ANY company, you are NOT guranteed a stable job position. This is something that's understood. Almost EVERY company in the world goes through a "house cleaning"; it's how they keep their livelihood and how they continue to thrive. If they have too many people in an area that doesn't justify that amount of work, then they have to let some go. There's no point in paying for workers who aren't benefiting them. It's not a charity, it's a business.

It's unfortunate, but it's an obvious reality and the way things are. It's very easy to make statements like that when you aren't in the position of actually running a company. With all due respect, I'd like to see you run a company and not run into the same problem of having to trim your work force after being in business for years. It's impossible. If you can find a way to do this, then please let us know. Almost every company out there would love to know the secret.


Originally posted by barnum42
Picture this possibility in your future – after a decade of hard loyal work you find yourself “house cleaned”. You will may at that time start reappraising such callously cold statements.

Morality means nothing to greedy corporate fat cats.
 

barnum42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

“That's not a cold statement nor is disney showing a lack of morality. This is business. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to work for a company.”

I would love to spend every day enjoying myself, but I have to pay the bills and so am forced to work for a company.

“By taking a job at ANY company, you are NOT guranteed a stable job position. This is something that's understood. Almost EVERY company in the world goes through a "house cleaning"; it's how they keep their livelihood and how they continue to thrive”.

Using business euphemisms like “house cleaning”, “downsizing”, “market forces” or any of the other naff buzz words that greedy suits use to try and hide their lack of care does not make the mistreatment of other humans an acceptable action.

“If they have too many people in an area that doesn't justify that amount of work, then they have to let some go.”

So the suits make the mistake, but they get to keep their jobs to the expense of others.

“There's no point in paying for workers who aren't benefiting them. It's not a charity, it's a business”

We are back to selfish greed – “workers who aren't benefiting them”.

“It's unfortunate, but it's an obvious reality and the way things are. It's very easy to make statements like that when you aren't in the position of actually running a company. With all due respect, I'd like to see you run a company and not run into the same problem of having to trim your work force after being in business for years. It's impossible. If you can find a way to do this, then please let us know. Almost every company out there would love to know the secret.”

It never seems to be a case of keeping the business afloat, but keeping greedy fat cats in their new Ferraris. I know of a couple of UK companies that produce big selling products, thanks to the efforts of local workforces. The owners of these companies have decided they can line their own pockets even more by switching production to Far East sweatshops. Both products are still on sale and have become no cheaper. All the extra cash goes to the greedy owners, however the people who worked hard to put them there are callously discarded. This is not “business”. This is just callous greed.

Treating people with care and respect should not be excluded from the workplace.
 

BRER STITCH

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Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by barnum42
Picture this possibility in your future – after a decade of hard loyal work you find yourself “house cleaned”. You will may at that time start reappraising such callously cold statements.

Morality means nothing to greedy corporate fat cats. Please think about those people who learned it the hard way.


Sadly, this thing happens EVERY SINGLE DAY in our country.

"House Cleaning" = larger profits to report.

As always, we wish the victims the best while trying to maintain our own positions......

:(
 

niteobsrvr

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Re: Re: Re: Disney may eliminate jobs of 140 servers

Originally posted by barnum42
Picture this possibility in your future – after a decade of hard loyal work you find yourself “house cleaned”. You will may at that time start reappraising such callously cold statements.

Morality means nothing to greedy corporate fat cats. Please think about those people who learned it the hard way.

Before you call me callous and cold, let me tell you a bit about my employment life.

1st Company I worked for - let go when they found out I was looking for a position with more opportunity and responsibility.

2nd Company - Layed off ( terminated in reality) due to a merger

3rd Company - Department 1 - Almost eliminated due to downsizing but was lucky enough to have transferred before it took place.

3rd Company - Second Department - Voluntarily left because the company was moving to another city which eventually became a merger and downsizing.

4th Company - Business closed less than a year after I started working there.

5th Company - Left because schedule became to whacky and didnt like living on no sleep with the responsibility of multiple lives in my hands

6th Company - Left because work hours were reduced due to 9/11 and couldnt make a living

7th Company - Let go because the jobs but not the people were being moved to India and the Philipines.

8th Company - we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Here is the Kicker. I am 35 years old. My employment life isnt evena fraction of that of my parents or grandparents. Its a whole new world and employment with one company for life doesnt exist anymore. Mostly because it isn't profitable to do that for a company.

Finally, lets talk about greed. It isnt just the administrators of a corporation who are greedy. On the contrary, they are just serving their stockholders who are demanding more money, not in the long term but in the short term. Its nearly every last person in America.

Think about this....

Ever turn at an intersection after the light has turned to red? Thats greed. You just stole 30 seconds of my time by being selfish. Ever Take too many items through the checkout lane marked 10 items or less. Thats greed too. Now I have to wait longer with my one item. There are lots of other examples but I dont want to get too long winded.

I would suggest that you step down off your high moral pedestal and evaluate your own life before pointing fingers. How many stocks are involved in your reitrement plan? Did you complain when the market dropped after 9/11. Could this be greed poking its head up again?

Bottom line is this is business and if their becomes a better or cheaper way to do things, then a company will pursue it becuase this is what the shareholders expect. The sad thing is people think that business should be a charity. If this is what you want, then living in America will never meet your expectations as only communist and socialist countries offer anything close to a charity situation.
 

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