News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[Witchy Chick]

This is why I'm NOT back in my office. My office wanted all of us to come back. I'm in the small percentage of people that has a legitimate medical reason for not getting the vaccine (I'd have to get it at a hospital, and the hospitals around me just plain don't have it). I told my boss that I was not comfortable coming back in the office for precisely this reason. I'm still working remotely. We shall see how this plays out in my office. I'm certain there are people there who aren't vaxed and who aren't wearing their masks.

My father works at a small law firm where one of his employees wasn't vaccinated, not for medical reasons. He finally told her unless she got vaccinated, she has to stay in her office and wear a mask if she comes out.

I wear mine everywhere, as do my family members to protect me.

I wish I had the option to work from home again. Last year, we were week on/week off so those of us in two-person offices were in solo each week. Since approx June 2020, it’s been “back to normal” albeit with masks and social distancing. Once the vaxes became prevalent, the company “vaccine perks” kicked in.

Speaking to another coworker this evening, I was told a network engineer in our building was deathly ill a few weeks ago and attempted to call in sick. He was told he *had* to come in to handle something on a project he’s working.

These people in my immediate management chain are insane.

 

[Jrb1979]

Well, we are not left with that as the only option. We also have the option of simply doing nothing aside from trying to encourage vaccines, and letting whatever happens with Covid happen. That may not be a good option, but it is an option, and it is the option I think is most likely to occur.

Let the fire continue to burn. To be honest living in a neighboring country and seeing leaders and citizens ok with Covid raging still ridiculous. I do find it rather funny how so many are thinking Covid is over while Covid cases are rising.

What's even worse is a country who had issues get vaccines back in March has now passed the US in vaccinations.

This may come of rude but as an outsider my feelings on this is it looks good on your leadership. They deserve all the consequences for their actions. I would even put that for the majority of people too. I'm appalled by the responses by the vast majority of vaccinated people.

My last comment is look to your neighbors to the north on how to keep cases low and get high vaccination percentage.

 

[seascape]

For most of us Covid19's disastrous effects are over. Yes, those of us who took the shot may need a booster but we will take it. The rest of the population, the younger adults and minorities are the ones at risk. They can make that choice but under no circumstance should they be allowed to harm the rest of us. Anyone who thinks we need to mandate mitigation doesn't follow science or democracy. Science clearly shows that those who take the shot are safe, over 90%. As for democracy and following our Constitution there is no justification for the majority being harmed by a minority of the country denying our rights to health, eduction and welfare. We took the shot and staying socially distant and masked is not health to our mental health. Closing the economy down is hurting our welfare and what was done to our children the last 2 years is denying them their education. Home schooling by our school districts had been a complete and total failure in many cities. The rich on the otherhand have continued to send their kids to private schools that had in person education. Think of that, we are destroying equality because at the very least kids in Kindergarten through third grade need in person education.

 

[Otterhead]

As for democracy and following our Constitution there is no justification for the majority being harmed by a minority of the country denying our rights to health, eduction and welfare. We took the shot and staying socially distant and masked is not health to our mental health. Closing the economy down is hurting our welfare

We're talking about wearing a mask -- a piece of cloth -- to protect yourself and the people around you from the spread of Covid and new variations of it. It's very easy, it's not infringing on anyone's rights or "equality" (?!) and yes, is for the health of all.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

We're talking about wearing a mask -- a piece of cloth -- to protect yourself and the people around you from the spread of Covid and new variations of it. It's very easy, it's not infringing on anyone's rights or "equality" (?!) and yes, is for the health of all. If wearing a mask affects the "mental health" of you and yours, you should really stay home.

"Anyone who thinks we need to mandate mitigation doesn't follow science or democracy." I don't think you know what either of those words mean, which is sad.

Masks of the correct type and worn properly reduce transmission but there is absolutely no proof that mask mandates do anything to reduce community spread. The data is quite abundantly clear on that.

People who don’t want to wear masks but are forced to tend to wear the wrong kind of mask and do so haphazardly to the point they are completely ineffective; particularly because most of these people temporarily remove them in public settings to cough or sneeze.

 

[Otterhead]

there is absolutely no proof that mask mandates do anything to reduce community spread. The data is quite abundantly clear on that.

Can you provide that data, please? I believe there's an abundance of proof that, as you say, virus transmission is hugely reduced if everyone wears masks during a pandemic. You actually contradicted yourself, by the way.

 

[Heelz2315]

In my state, North Carolina. I read an article this AM in the Charlotte Observer that said that 99% of all cases and 98% of all hospitalizations since May were unvaccinated. I knew the vaccines worked but I didn't think it was that black/white. WOW

 

[pdude81]

If vaccines had EUA for even 5-12 I don't think we'd be having a discussion about this. Unfortunately we will keep rehashing until at least October, absent a total drop-off in covid cases.

 

[Andrew C]

Let the fire continue to burn

"The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire."

 

[Heelz2315]

If vaccines had EUA for even 5-12 I don't think we'd be having a discussion about this. Unfortunately we will keep rehashing until at least October, absent a total drop-off in covid cases.

Why October?

 

[pdude81]

Pfizer is expecting data from their 5-12 trials and a submission to the FDA in September. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reasonable review of the data, although they could take a bit longer with different doses than 12+

 

[Andrew C]

Pfizer is expecting data from their 5-12 trials and a submission to the FDA in September. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reasonable review of the data, although they could take a bit longer with different doses than 12+

Is the expectation to not have 3 year old's like my kid ever get the vaccine? I mean, I know they need to do trials for that age group but at this rate, she is going to be over 5 by the time it is available. I am not stressing about it or anything due to the low risk for her. Just wondering...

 

[pdude81]

Is the expectation to not have 3 year old's like my kid ever get the vaccine? I mean, I know they need to so trials for that age group but at this rate, she is gonna be over 5 by the time it is available. I am not stressing about it or anything due to the low risk for her. Just wondering...

2-5 will follow shortly after but that data will take longer. Then 6mo-2 might not have enough data til the end of the year. They are doing dose and age de-escalation, so it takes longer for the younger groups.

 

[Andrew C]

2-5 will follow shortly after but that data will take longer. Then 6mo-2 might not have enough data til the end of the year. They are doing dose and age de-escalation, so it takes longer for the younger groups.

Makes sense...thanks.

 

[Heelz2315]

Pfizer is expecting data from their 5-12 trials and a submission to the FDA in September. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reasonable review of the data, although they could take a bit longer with different doses than 12+

So once the FDA gives vaccine approval from 5-12 things will settle down enough? Trying to follow the logic.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Pfizer is expecting data from their 5-12 trials and a submission to the FDA in September. It would take at least 2 weeks for a reasonable review of the data, although they could take a bit longer with different doses than 12+

I wonder if the FDA will approve the Pfizer vaccine? I am not a Dr. or a scientist but I am guessing yes...

 

[EnjoyingLife]

For those interested in studies that specifically address whether or not mask mandates decrease the growth rate of COVID-19 cases and deaths, here are a couple articles from peer-reviewed medical journals that may help:

JGIM: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-020-06277-0

JAMA: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778233

 

[pdude81]

So once the FDA gives vaccine approval from 5-12 things will settle down enough? Trying to follow the logic.

I think we'll stop fighting about whether or not Disney should reintroduce masks when 94% of the visiting public has the option to get a vaccine. Right now it's not an option for those under 12 at all, and 5-12 is a pretty big group of Disney visitors.

That isn't to discount the concerns of parents that have younger children than that, but under 5 is only 6% of the American public and the argument that you can't protect kids anymore will be largely absent.

 

[pdude81]

I wonder if the FDA will approve the Pfizer vaccine? I am not a Dr. or a scientist but I am guessing yes...

Most of the data I've looked at suggests the mRNA vaccines are safer than the regular flu vaccine among all age groups. They haven't released any 5-12 data yet, but there is no reason to suggest they would fare much different given an appropriate dose of the same substance.

 

[seascape]

We're talking about wearing a mask -- a piece of cloth -- to protect yourself and the people around you from the spread of Covid and new variations of it. It's very easy, it's not infringing on anyone's rights or "equality" (?!) and yes, is for the health of all. If wearing a mask affects the "mental health" of you and yours, you should really stay home.

"Anyone who thinks we need to mandate mitigation doesn't follow science or democracy." I don't think you know what either of those words mean, which is sad.

Science clearly shows I am super vaccinated since I not only took the vaccine but also recovered from Covid19 last November. As for those around me, all my friends and family have taken the vaccine too and a couple of them also recovered from Covid19 in the Spring of 2020. Science, also shows that all those who have recovered from Covid19 have immunity and don't really need to take the vaccine. It is only the stupid government that is demanding we all take the vaccine. My Doctor told me I didn't need to take it and that my desire to delay taking it so others could was the right thing to do. It was only because I wanted to travel and was afraid I would be required to show my card that I got my shots in February and March. Science says get an antibody test to see if you are protected but the government isn't doing that. Take the vaccine, then get an antibody test and if you have them you are in the 95% that are protected if you don't then you are still at risk and should protect yourself because the government won't.