News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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Polkadotdress

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That is not what the CDC said today.

They said that the viral load of Delta is so high that N95’s are required to provide protection.
I’m not seeing that anywhere in the news. I did find one link to an interview with the former FDA Commissioner, who strongly suggested that the unvaccinated wear a high quality mask. And that those who are vaxx’d could consider using something like an N-95 if they wanted more protection, since there is no longer a supply chain issue with them.
 
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SoFloMagic

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You bring up masks.

Shouldn’t you be questioning ?

The CDC was just saying today that only properly fitted N95 are effective at stopping Delta particles do to the high viral load.

How many people do you see wearing properly fitted N95 masks?

So if the vast majority is just wearing a basic mask and in many cases wearing it wrong, you have a major problem.

You now have a group of people who think they are protected and interacting in public as such when they are not.

Looks like facts can get you in trouble without further investigation.
I mean it's not all or nothing. If the vaccine gives you 90 and cloth mask gives you 35%, you'd feel pretty good.

But yeah, unvaxed should likely be n95-ing, but they're mostly going maskless. 🤷‍♂️
 

danlb_2000

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That is not what the CDC said today.

They said that the viral load of Delta is so high that N95’s are required to provide protection.

I am not sure where you got that from. The only thing I can find on this is Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation. He said and N95 mask will provide better protection then a cloth mask, especially for vulnerable individuals. This has always been the case. If you want to protect yourself from the virus an N95 is going to be far superior to a cloth mask. At no point in the interview did he make the absolute statement that N95 is the only way to be protected.

 

Polkadotdress

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I am not sure where you got that from. The only thing I can find on this is Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation. He said and N95 mask will provide better protection then a cloth mask, especially for vulnerable individuals. This has always been the case. If you want to protect yourself from the virus an N95 is going to be far superior to a cloth mask. At no point in the interview did he make the absolute statement that N95 is the only way to be protected.

Yep, that’s the only thing I found too.
 

Trauma

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I am not sure where you got that from. The only thing I can find on this is Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation. He said and N95 mask will provide better protection then a cloth mask, especially for vulnerable individuals. This has always been the case. If you want to protect yourself from the virus an N95 is going to be far superior to a cloth mask. At no point in the interview did he make the absolute statement that N95 is the only way to be protected.

Ok - FAR SUPERIOR

So any mandate without a requirement for full compliance of properly fitted N95’s will be the equivalent of the security theater of randomly putting people thru a metal detector.
 

pdude81

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Ok - FAR SUPERIOR

So any mandate without a requirement for full compliance of properly fitted N95’s will be the equivalent of the security theater of randomly putting people thru a metal detector.
The mandate was to stop the spread and not protect the individual. So the N95 will help stop the viral load from someone else nearby who is unmasked, but will not stop the sick person from spreading the virus. If everyone were to wear cloth masks indoors, while still not stopping viral particles from escaping, would reduce the amount of them escaping the mask at any given moment and provide some protection to others. We haven't really had a mask mandate along with Delta to find out what impact cloth masks would have. It could be proven ineffective, but has been effective on other variants in the past.
 

Trauma

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The mandate was to stop the spread and not protect the individual. So the N95 will help stop the viral load from someone else nearby who is unmasked, but will not stop the sick person from spreading the virus. If everyone were to wear cloth masks indoors, while still not stopping viral particles from escaping, would reduce the amount of them escaping the mask at any given moment and provide some protection to others. We haven't really had a mask mandate along with Delta to find out what impact cloth masks would have. It could be proven ineffective, but has been effective on other variants in the past.
That’s the point I’m trying to make.

If the goal is to stop the spread we darn well better be sure that the basic cloth mask is able to do so.

The viral load is much different from previous strains.

Of course it will have some effectiveness but will it be enough to slow the spread?

If not we need other mitigation’s.

Our public health policy can’t be, well maybe this will help because we don’t know what else to do.
 

durangojim

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And this precisely explains why Orange County is seeing a rapid increase in cases. So what is going to be done to put the brakes on this? Something needs to happen.
When we were there two weeks ago you would have never known there was a pandemic occurring. No masks and no distancing. Except on the skyliner where they want you to wear a mask regardless if it’s only you and your party, lol.
 

GhostHost1000

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I mean it's not all or nothing. If the vaccine gives you 90 and cloth mask gives you 35%, you'd feel pretty good.

But yeah, unvaxed should likely be n95-ing, but they're mostly going maskless. 🤷‍♂️
I thought a mask is to protect others, not yourself especially considering your eyes are exposed and people go around touching their masks and rubbing their eyes and eating with their hands etc often
 

SoFloMagic

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I thought a mask is to protect others, not yourself especially considering your eyes are exposed and people go around touching their masks and rubbing their eyes and eating with their hands etc often
I mean that's what they said in May 2020, but the science has since shown masks are fairly protective for the wearer as well. Other science has shown the major route of entry is dropplets through nose or mouth, so while eyes are possible they're not the main route of entry.
 

dovetail65

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I mean that's what they said in May 2020, but the science has since shown masks are fairly protective for the wearer as well. Other science has shown the major route of entry is dropplets through nose or mouth, so while eyes are possible they're not the main route of entry.
IN Mya 2020 they said that so we woulnt run out ah buy up al the N95 masks. There as already enough data at that time and even common sense that a mask protects the wearer. It; like they though this was a way to get the public onboard help they negibor, huge mistal theyw oul have had mroe peole for the mask if they said wear hte ,ask to pretect yourself. If we cared abput other vacinted peole woul wear masks or unvacined peole woul wear maks fact s no oe wan to
 

danlb_2000

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IN Mya 2020 they said that so we woulnt run out ah buy up al the N95 masks. There as already enough data at that time and even common sense that a mask protects the wearer. It; like they though this was a way to get the public onboard help they negibor, huge mistal theyw oul have had mroe peole for the mask if they said wear hte ,ask to pretect yourself. If we cared abput other vacinted peole woul wear masks or unvacined peole woul wear maks fact s no oe wan to

Part of it was to protect the supply of N95 masks, but the recommendation also changed because we realized that there was a lot asymptomatic transmission going on, so it made sense to ask everyone to wear at least a cloth masks since these would help reduce the spread of the virus from infected people.

 

correcaminos

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Between the airports and the transportation I knew we would need a bunch of masks and if things continue maybe some more now too.
Yep, it was hard to decide how many to bring. We had to wear indoors and we knew the disposable types are a must in the heat. Gave us room for droids on the way home though lol
 

dovetail65

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Part of it was to protect the supply of N95 masks, but the recommendation also changed because we realized that there was a lot asymptomatic transmission going on, so it made sense to ask everyone to wear at least a cloth masks since these would help reduce the spread of the virus from infected people.

I have no idea how that jumble of words even posted, I meant to write something then got caught up in work then received a notification you responded,. I am not even sure how you understood anything, that mess was posted by my rear end on behalf of my pocket when I was sitting down!

In May Harvard put out a study that showed the wearer's do benefit from N95 masks, it also coincides with a Chinese Hamster study through Oxford that says the same. BUT, it should not have taken a new study to convince anyone an N95 protects the wearer.
 

homerdance

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That’s the problem with covid from the start. Just because we or the media say it’s fact doesn’t mean it is fact. We don’t know and their is plenty of conflicting information everywhere on both sides.

I think now most reputable news sources are on the same page about vaccines and the spread outdoors being almost nothing.

Also since the vaccine is only 95% effective 5% spread will happen.
 

Otterhead

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So any mandate without a requirement for full compliance of properly fitted N95’s will be the equivalent of the security theater of randomly putting people thru a metal detector.
That's not true at all. Please stop posting Covid misinformation here.
If everyone is wearing even cheap/Disney cloth masks, that's multiple layers of protection. What matters most is if they fit around your nose and mouth. Properly fitting cloth masks on everyone is a great level of protection.
Yes, an N95 mask is an excellent mask. So is a military gas mask, but that's also overkill for daily use.
 
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