matt9112
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Why do you think i enjoy busch gardens and universal?
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Why do you think i enjoy busch gardens and universal?
I'm sure the 7 families that will book if masking becomes optional indoors are of great concern to the mouse.
CaptainAmerica
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I'm not sure there's much upside. The people who don't want to go with masks don't want to FLY with masks, either. Disney won't get those people back by dropping mask mandates until the TSA does the same.
(I'm including myself in that list. I've been twice during COVID, but I'm done. No more until masks are gone and housekeeping is back.)
PirateFrank
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Actually, I didn't say it either....my original comment was severely misinterpreted (or purposefully mangled for false pretext). My original statement was that our immune systems were not being exercised....and the combatives you refer to, put words in my mouth and claimed that I stated our immune systems were weakened by all of the measures we have been taking since C19 came into town. I never said that.
The fact of the matter is that our immune systems rely on continued exposure to bacteria and viruses. Science. Especially new threats resulting from mutation, so that our bodies can develop and build immunities to these new threats naturally. The cold from hell that I experienced a few weeks ago was most likely a new threat -- that my body's immune system had not seen (or not seen enough of) to develop a strong enough immunity to....as a result, It did a number on me and my family.
NEVER did I say that I or anyone else's immune systems were weakened by masks, antibacterials, distancing, or lockdowns. But you know, there are certain people in this thread that have been gleefully exercising their god given american right to assume someone doesnt think the same way and attack them for it. We're never going to get out of this pandemic...and its not because of the unvaxed or people not wearing masks.
TehPuddingMan
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I disagree. People drive to Disney too. Especially in the south where masks haven’t become commonplace.
SingleRider
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Exactly. I drove to Disney over the 4th of July, avoided buses/monorail/Skyliner, and did not wear a mask once the entire trip.
correcaminos
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Sorry, I didn't intentionally misinterpret your statement. I still do not agree at all. Masks help but are not perfect. I've been out helping as much as I can in schools even last year. I've been out and about a lot since I was confirmed vaccinated and a lot when I assumed. I only holed up from mid-Aug to mid-end of Sept while actively doing the trial. I just do not agree that all of our immune systems have gotten a break on this whether weakened or not. Maybe those who were recluse but not all of us. Things enter our bodies beyond just a mask. I was exposed to my dad's non covid junk and to some kids's too through a friend. For 2.5 months I never wore a mask. I also am not a santizer much, and never have been. I have always consciously avoided touching my face/eyes. I also tend to be not as quick to get certain types of illnesses anyway even if the rest do. So my comments simply were to say that not all of is will deal with this onslaught.
My comments were not meant to be an attack and I apologize they could be construed as such. We can agree to disagree. Again my apologies my comments came across in a way I didn't intend.
Keep in mind I jumped first thing when I heard trials were out there to join. I may have been a calmer force saying to not worry at the beginning based on some medical people, but I took it seriously when the time came. Prefacing this to say that I never want to live my life as above. If I am recovering from a cold, sure I'll mask. I never want them to be the norm like they are now and I never want to fear that we'll do this again soon. My poor 13yo has horrible skin in the mask area only. My skin is hating it too since I wore them soo much lately. I loathe singing with them. My keloid on my ear is not happy. This is not something I want to keep.
I get your point but this? No, don't want this new norm. I want to breathe freely. I am far more calm after doing a fall show with roughly 80 kids for months on end. No covid in any of them. Even a week of them singing unmasked. When numbers allow, my mask will be gone I guarsntee you. Just like this summer we were 100% mask free. I loved it.
Obviously I'll comply as asked, but I do want this over with.
Back to Disney with my luck masks will be dropped on like the 20th. We missed June's drop by 4 days. That's my luck. It's a solo, time for me to chill trip as this has all been too much. So I'd love to not pack the masks.
DisneyDodo
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I initially was planning to hold off on booking until Disney dropped the mask mandate, but decided to bite the bullet for December because it’s my last opportunity to go before my daughter turns 2. I’d rather DW and I wear masks indoors at WDW than DD2 wear one on the flights. After this trip, my family will not be flying anywhere until the TSA drops the mandate, which I don’t anticipate being anytime soon.
However cases in the Southeast continue to decline. Now, I hope WDW keeps the indoor mask requirement until the US drops to 5 cases per 100k. Wearing a mask inside at Disney is easy given the temperature they keep the stores at.
There are 8 states in the US where the rates are climbing. That's what's driving the uptick. Hopefully once the delta passes through them the numbers will plateau or drop back off.
There's also this piece of news this AM. If Phizer's and Merk's pill are authorized by say January, we'll have two pills to treat COVID and all but stop hospitalizations and deaths, vaccines for everyone above 5 years of age, and by early 2022 we'll have well over 201M people fully vaccinated. There should be NO reason to have any covid measures say after March at the earliest. All that SHOULD put life back to as close to normal as we can get it pre pandemic.
www.nbcnews.com
There's also this piece of news this AM. If Phizer's and Merk's pill are authorized by say January, we'll have two pills to treat COVID and all but stop hospitalizations and deaths, vaccines for everyone above 5 years of age, and by early 2022 we'll have well over 201M people fully vaccinated. There should be NO reason to have any covid measures say after March at the earliest. All that SHOULD put life back to as close to normal as we can get it pre pandemic.
Pfizer's Covid antiviral pill may cut severe illness by 89 percent
The drugmaker said its studies of the pill were so successful that it stopped clinical trials early.
www.nbcnews.com
GimpYancIent
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Will Disney be able to sell off their warehouse full of masks? Will there be giveaway's / BOGO's etc.? Oh yea! the manufacturers of masks will not need as many employees? It's not about the transmission of a disease. Then of course there is the coughing into your elbow crap / nonsense, masks work much better. In reality a mask optional policy is the most common sense / reasonable way to go.
That's what the Orlando Premium Outlets are for, selling discontinued and or irregular merchandise.
networkpro
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Unfortunately, the vacation industry in Florida draws from outside of the Southeasten US. While indigenous infections remain lower, there's the risk of transmission from vacationers traveling from elsewhere.
PirateFrank
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Hey! Much appreciated! I can't possibly imagine that you were one of my attackers, with the above decent & respectful post...and I don't think its worth my time to go back and take notes on who it was - Im really kinda over it!. But I appreciate it regardless. Thank you!
Sadly, I think people here (and anywhere else where you can semi-anonymously discuss this on social media) have turned masks/vaccines into a religious cult. I used to post here all of the time. We were all brothers and sisters with a common love of something/someplace magical. Yeah, we complain and argue about whether Norway needs Frozen or if the price of after hours events has gotten out of hand....but never have I seen the vitriolic and evil nastiness from some people here who approach the covid topic with near religious lunacy from behind battle lines drawn by people they don't know and who don't care about them (politicians). It's sad to watch play out. It really is. Every time I come here thinking Im going to enjoy my time reading posts....I regret it, because I always see the band of usual suspects beating up on someone else for having a different point of view. The respectfulness and decency is long gone in every one of these covid posts.
Also, I do agree that everyone's different....so making a blanket statement like "We're all going to get sick because we masked up for so long" wasn't the best statement to make. But that being said, here on Long Island, for 15 long months I literally didn't see anyone outside of my family except for the guy at my beer distributor or the kid babysitting the check-out machine at the grocery store. To say my employer and people in my area reacted strongly to covid would be an understatement. So depending on which part of the country you were standing in, some of us effectively lived in bubbles for 12-15 months. That's not healthy. Immune systems didn't get what they needed during that time. Yes - these measures were likely effective in some part in protecting us from covid,. But some of us are indeed going to get sick from living in that bubble for so long. Some of us already have. Is it the masks? not entirely. Is it the distancing? not entirely. Is it the constant antibacterials? Not entirely. All of those things combined, along with not going out and getting our hands a little dirty, eating too much contactlessly delivered take-out food, drinking a bit more than we all should while sitting on zoom calls with friends.....all of those factors contributed to us being less prepared to deal with the non-covid threats we will all face in the coming months/years. Heck, maybe it was just a damn nasty bug that would have taken a bunch of us out regardless of the lost covid year. But seriously speaking, its almost always the sum of all these moving parts.
Regardless, there's nothing wrong with us all taking a long hard look at what we've been putting our bodies through for 18 months...and do all we can to support a healthy immune system moving forward. So when the next bug hits, maybe we don't have to resort to such drastic measures, and we can all get back to arguing about how long it's taking Bob and Josh to finish Tron.
So Pfizer says their new pill reduces hospitalizations by 90%.
Sorry, as fully vaccinated person your going to have a even harder time convincing me to mask up.
Adults and children have the tools to protect themselves, if they choose not to use them that’s on them.
Sorry, as fully vaccinated person your going to have a even harder time convincing me to mask up.
Adults and children have the tools to protect themselves, if they choose not to use them that’s on them.
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Zummi Gummi
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Oddly, the anti-vaxx crowd will likely have no issues taking this pill if they get sick, even though its development was just as "rushed" as the vaccine's. For whatever reason a pill doesn't carry the same stigma with these people as the shot does.
Just my random thoughts on this past October trip.
Masks really are the least of the issues due to Covid that affected this trip - at least to us. It was hot/humid while we were there, but still didn't really cause any aggravation for us.
What was noticeable was lack of merchandise due to pandemic (for a lot of stuff, we were told supply issues), lack of the wine I like (I fully understand that may only be a concern to me) - again, supply issues, and for me, it really was kind of weird to only be able to take a picture with Mickey while he's standing 6 or more feet behind me. 
Also, a lot of restaurants still have reduced menu options.
And we had horrid bus service. Not sure if it's pandemic related, but waits were 30 or more minutes every time we left a park. It was bad.
And darn it, I miss real menus!
And it was weird to have to take out our own trash. Maybe just give the rooms bigger trash cans at this point if it's going to continue?
Also, mobile ordering. I didn't know I should click "prepare my order" 30 minutes before we were ready to eat...a lot of time waiting for food because we didn't know how long the wait would be. 40 minutes for our corn dog nugget order. I wish they would go back to giving the option - wait in line or mobile order.
So when they drop masks, I hope people who were staying away due to pandemic issues realize those issues will still be there.
With all that said, we still enjoyed ourselves!
Masks really are the least of the issues due to Covid that affected this trip - at least to us. It was hot/humid while we were there, but still didn't really cause any aggravation for us.
What was noticeable was lack of merchandise due to pandemic (for a lot of stuff, we were told supply issues), lack of the wine I like (I fully understand that may only be a concern to me
) - again, supply issues, and for me, it really was kind of weird to only be able to take a picture with Mickey while he's standing 6 or more feet behind me. Also, a lot of restaurants still have reduced menu options.
And we had horrid bus service. Not sure if it's pandemic related, but waits were 30 or more minutes every time we left a park. It was bad.
And darn it, I miss real menus!
And it was weird to have to take out our own trash. Maybe just give the rooms bigger trash cans at this point if it's going to continue?
Also, mobile ordering. I didn't know I should click "prepare my order" 30 minutes before we were ready to eat...a lot of time waiting for food because we didn't know how long the wait would be. 40 minutes for our corn dog nugget order. I wish they would go back to giving the option - wait in line or mobile order.
So when they drop masks, I hope people who were staying away due to pandemic issues realize those issues will still be there.
With all that said, we still enjoyed ourselves!
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Who cares at this point as long as it works.
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