News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

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bdearl41

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People were most definitely not inside in Florida last summer. The beaches were crowded and many people were outside walking around. By the way, when did Disney reopen last year? ;)
How much spread is 100% determined from the beach or WDW. I think you must of missed my point. Florida, Texas and. Arizona had their rise in cases when people would of been inside blasting the AC.
 

bdearl41

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With all due respect, the CDC guidance is full of crap on lots of things. They are being so, so, so overly conservative that it's bordering on ludicrous.

Yes, we do know at this point that vaccinated people do not spread Covid. There have been at least 9 separate, reputable studies that have shown that. For the CDC to say that "we're still learning" about it is disingenuous at best.




Again. Only follow the science when it helps your point. Vaccines turn Covid into a hard to transmit cold. FULL STOP
 

BuddyThomas

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With all due respect, the CDC guidance is full of crap on lots of things. They are being so, so, so overly conservative that it's bordering on ludicrous.

Yes, we do know at this point that vaccinated people do not spread Covid. There have been at least 9 separate, reputable studies that have shown that. For the CDC to say that "we're still learning" about it is disingenuous at best.




Well, I don't know what to believe anymore. Everyone has a different study to post. For the time being, I'm just going to err on the side of caution for myself and for others. It's really not that big of a deal to wear a freaking mask.
 

danv3

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Well, I don't know what to believe anymore. Everyone has a different study to post. For the time being, I'm just going to err on the side of caution for myself and for others. It's really not that big of a deal to wear a freaking mask.
I don’t think anyone has a study showing significant post-vaccination spread.

The data showing that there’s really no material spread by the vaccinated is pretty strong at this point.
 

montyz81

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As to your comment, just because you are vaccinated, it is still possible for you to carry the virus and be able to infect other people, which is why they still want you to wear the mask. It's not for you. It's for others. How plain dumb is that?
Show me the research that 100% proves that I will spread the virus after being vaccinated, doctor? (FYI: the CDC isn’t even sure, they use words like “could” and “should”) Also, are you saying that people who were vaccinated from influenza should have been wearing a mask all along and should have stayed away because they could spread it too? Your logic is messed up. People who are not vaccinated should stay away. People who are vaccinated should feel free to roam about the country.... without a mask. You must want socialism real bad. Lastly. People who are most at risk are mostly vaccinated. The at-risk people who are not should stay away. Why should I were a mask to protect people that choose not to get vaccinated? Don’t give me the bull about children either. They are not the ones that are at-risk. The fear campaign continues.
 
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FormerMember

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With all due respect, the CDC guidance is full of crap on lots of things. They are being so, so, so overly conservative that it's bordering on ludicrous.

Yes, we do know at this point that vaccinated people do not spread Covid. There have been at least 9 separate, reputable studies that have shown that. For the CDC to say that "we're still learning" about it is disingenuous at best.




Look at the CDC guidance on summer camps if you want to get blood boiling angry. It's a wild read. Here's a good article on them...

 

bdearl41

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Well, I don't know what to believe anymore. Everyone has a different study to post. For the time being, I'm just going to err on the side of caution for myself and for others. It's really not that big of a deal to wear a freaking mask.
It’s because in the end no one knows. And because of our endless access to news we base everything on antecdotal evidence instead of macro results.
 

tpac24

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Being in the sun does nothing to kill, slow, or stop the spread of Covid.

The type of UV light required to kill the virus is extraordinarily dangerous to humans.
Maybe the vitamin D component is what they are alluding to.
"Several recent studies have looked at the impact of vitamin D on COVID-19. One study of 489 people found that those who had a vitamin D deficiency were more likely to test positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 than people who had normal levels of vitamin D.

Other research has observed high rates of vitamin D deficiency in people with COVID-19 who experienced acute respiratory failure. These people had a significantly higher risk of dying. And a small, randomized study found that of 50 people hospitalized with COVID-19 who were given a high dose of a type of vitamin D (calcifediol), only one needed treatment in the intensive care unit.

In addition, vitamin D deficiency is common in the United States, particularly among Hispanic and Black people. These groups have been disproportionately affected by COVID-19. Vitamin D deficiency is also more common in people who are older, people who have a body mass index of 30 or higher (obesity), and people who have high blood pressure (hypertension). These factors also increase the risk of severe COVID-19 symptoms."
 

ImperfectPixie

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Maybe the vitamin D component is what they are alluding to.
"Several recent studies have looked at the impact of vitamin D on COVID-19. One study of 489 people found that those who had a vitamin D deficiency were more likely to test positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 than people who had normal levels of vitamin D.

Other research has observed high rates of vitamin D deficiency in people with COVID-19 who experienced acute respiratory failure. These people had a significantly higher risk of dying. And a small, randomized study found that of 50 people hospitalized with COVID-19 who were given a high dose of a type of vitamin D (calcifediol), only one needed treatment in the intensive care unit.

In addition, vitamin D deficiency is common in the United States, particularly among Hispanic and Black people. These groups have been disproportionately affected by COVID-19. Vitamin D deficiency is also more common in people who are older, people who have a body mass index of 30 or higher (obesity), and people who have high blood pressure (hypertension). These factors also increase the risk of severe COVID-19 symptoms."
That's cute information, but we're not going to vitamin D our way out of this.
 

bdearl41

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Maybe the vitamin D component is what they are alluding to.
"Several recent studies have looked at the impact of vitamin D on COVID-19. One study of 489 people found that those who had a vitamin D deficiency were more likely to test positive for the virus that causes COVID-19 than people who had normal levels of vitamin D.

Other research has observed high rates of vitamin D deficiency in people with COVID-19 who experienced acute respiratory failure. These people had a significantly higher risk of dying. And a small, randomized study found that of 50 people hospitalized with COVID-19 who were given a high dose of a type of vitamin D (calcifediol), only one needed treatment in the intensive care unit.

In addition, vitamin D deficiency is common in the United States, particularly among Hispanic and Black people. These groups have been disproportionately affected by COVID-19. Vitamin D deficiency is also more common in people who are older, people who have a body mass index of 30 or higher (obesity), and people who have high blood pressure (hypertension). These factors also increase the risk of severe COVID-19 symptoms."
I think there is something to this. Read a lot about it last fall. It also explains why people of color could see worse cases of Covid as higher levels of melatonin make it harder for Vitamin D absorption from the sun.
 

tpac24

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That's cute information, but we're not going to vitamin D our way out of this.
That's not what I meant but of course you know that!!!I am sure the Mayo Clinic who led this study would appreciate your insight and vast coivd knowledge. It is interesting how when anyone shares a bit of info that doesn't fit your science you act like this. Interesting yet not surprising.
 
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ImperfectPixie

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That's not what I meant but of course you know that!!!I am sure the Mayo Clinic who led this study would appreciate your insight and vast coivd knowledge. It is interesting how when anyone shares a bit of info that doesn't fit your science you act like this. Interesting yet no surprising.
My point is that of course vitamin D deficiencies are going to change how COVID affects the body. ANY vitamin deficiency will because it means our bodies aren't operating at 100%.

This also isn't the first time Vitamin D has been brought up.
 

bdearl41

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That's not what I meant but of course you know that!!!I am sure the Mayo Clinic who led this study would appreciate your insight and vast coivd knowledge. It is interesting how when anyone shares a bit of info that doesn't fit your science you act like this. Interesting yet no surprising.
Yep. Follow the science...as long as it agrees with that’s best for me.
 

tpac24

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I think there is something to this. Read a lot about it last fall. It also explains why people of color could see worse cases of Covid as higher levels of melatonin make it harder for Vitamin D absorption from the sun.
I agree. My family for one all have been on Vitamin D , C and Zinc supplement for years. We pretty much lived our normal lives during covid only big modification was mask indoors and only where required. We celebrated holidays with extended family. Both kids in school since August one at a big University that functioned pretty normal this year. The other played sports all year and not one of us got covid immediate or extended. We flew several times as well. I don't know if that helped us but will keep taking it just the same.
 

ImperfectPixie

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Man. You just want this thing to linger, don't you? Good lord. If you are afraid, go get vaccinated!
No. I freaking don't. I want people to get with the freaking program and get vaccinated. And in the interim, until we're at a point where most people have been vaccinated...quit being whiny little brats and wear a freaking mask if you're in a public place with lots of people. I'm sick and tired of willful ignorance holding everyone who's been doing what they're supposed to hostage and dragging out the pandemic. I want vaccine passports (or REAL medical exemptions) for entertainment because the "carrots" aren't working on these idiots.

I'm in between shots, thanks. And the second they open up the vaccines for kids, my kids are getting vaccinated, too.

ETA: And I'm not scared in the least. My family is being careful. I'm at the point where I've had it with Joe General Public and his excuses, temper tantrums, and general BS.
 
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Dranth

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Our constitution affords us this much. Each freedom that we are prevented from enjoying by the government (in this case freely breathing) moves us that much closer to an economic and political system where the government regulates how a business is run
Government regulates how a business is run? What? They already do that and have for well over 100 years.


Show me the research that 100% proves that I will spread the virus after being vaccinated doctor? (FYI: the CDC isn’t even sure, they use words like “could” and “should”)
You mention the CDC says "could" and "should" because they aren't sure. Exactly. They don't know enough. Neither do you or I or anyone else. So, they lean towards caution. Is it too much? Probably, but we are talking about a virus that has killed a rather large number of people and damaged a good bit more. A little extra caution seems warranted given what we have gone through.

You must want socialism real bad.
Really? Someone wants socialism because they see masks as still being a useful tool in preventing spread? Come on.

Why should I were a mask to protect people that choose not to get vaccinated?
Because not everyone has had a chance to get it yet? Because community spread is still an issue? Because the medical community as a whole feels we don't have enough data to truly say if you are vaccinated you are out of the woods. To be fair, it does look that way and I do think we are close to being mask free (if vaccinated) but we aren’t quite there yet. Until that time, masks it is.
 
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