News Disney mask policy at Walt Disney World theme parks

[willtravel]

I am glad to hear that. I had HUGE reaction to first and second to Pfizer and going for my booster of Moderna tomorrow, I was thinking about canceling because I dont want to lose 3 days more work right now like I did the last two times. Reading your post I am a bit more ready to go.

Worse issue with a vaccine for me I was for Shingles, 3 days later I had an SVT heart event, I thought I was going to die. All my Dr's saying this or that so I google my self and find a study that states 6% of men get an SVT event 3 days after the Shingrex vaccine, EXACTLY what happend to me. I showed all my Dr and none of them were aware, now they are. I don't regret getting the Shingrex vaccine, that incident led to my Dr's discovering an abnormality in my heart that causes Afib about 9% of the time. This is why I have been feeling ill the last few years. My wife says you never feel well and I just shrugged it off from working 18 hour days. So now I need decide if I will go on and get an ablation for my heart

My AFIB caused my heart to go to 155 for 147 minutes yesterday while I sat there scared, still I am on the fence about the ablation. It scary when your heart beats like you are running 10 miles while sitting doing noting at all and can not ell the heart to slow. Anyone here have an ablation one for the heart?

Cardiac ablation - Mayo Clinic

www.mayoclinic.org

My husband did and all came out fine. One thing he has to do now is wear a CPAP. When in hospital they tested his sleeping at night and has sleep apnea which is hard on the heart. But after getting use to CPAP, he says he sleeps better now.

 

[TehPuddingMan]

 

[CastAStone]

However the mask in the photo, good to go.

 

[TikibirdLand]

Does this mean I'm going to have to throw away all my Disney Face Masks and start drawing a "Goofy" on the paper ones?

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Interesting that the phrasing in the headline for the link was shortened to "Not Effective" when the headline when you click the link is actually "Evidence emerging that cloth masks are not as effective as N95 masks against COVID." It's almost like they're going the clickbait route, but we all know the news neeeevvvverrrr does that. In any event, if anyone thought that cloth masks were as effective as N95 masks then they haven't been paying close attention. Cloth masks were just easier to obtain and cheaper in the long run because you can wash them and reuse them instead of throwing them away after each use.

 

[DisneyCane]

Interesting that the phrasing in the headline for the link was shortened to "Not Effective" when the headline when you click the link is actually "Evidence emerging that cloth masks are not as effective as N95 masks against COVID." It's almost like they're going the clickbait route, but we all know the news neeeevvvverrrr does that. In any event, if anyone thought that cloth masks were as effective as N95 masks then they haven't been paying close attention. Cloth masks were just easier to obtain and cheaper in the long run because you can wash them and reuse them instead of throwing them away after each use.

The studies referenced were all pre-omicron. With Omicron, the headline is probably reality.

Under the current conditions the WDW mask policy should either be N95 (or equivalent) respirators required in all indoor areas or face coverings are optional. Requiring cloth masks with Omicron as, by far, the dominant variant is just health theatre and done for PR and optics.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

The studies referenced were all pre-omicron. With Omicron, the headline is probably reality.

Under the current conditions the WDW mask policy should either be N95 (or equivalent) respirators required in all indoor areas or face coverings are optional. Requiring cloth masks with Omicron as, by far, the dominant variant is just health theatre and done for PR and optics.

Or they know that they're more likely to have better compliance with cloth masks (which they just so happen to sell!) than requiring guests to have disposable masks for their whole trip. My wife and I used only paper or KN95 masks on our December trip, but I was able to find a decent deal on them before our trip and wouldn't have wanted to have to rely on one of the Target locations around WDW having them in stock when we arrived if we had only brought cloth masks with us.

I agree that N95s or KN95s are the best choice, but not everyone will want to buy and pack enough for their entire family when on vacation, so something is better than nothing - and even if the theory that cloth masks are even less effective with Omicron is correct, they are still better than no mask at all.

 

[DisneyCane]

Or they know that they're more likely to have better compliance with cloth masks (which they just so happen to sell!) than requiring guests to have disposable masks for their whole trip. My wife and I used only paper or KN95 masks on our December trip, but I was able to find a decent deal on them before our trip and wouldn't have wanted to have to rely on one of the Target locations around WDW having them in stock when we arrived if we had only brought cloth masks with us.

I agree that N95s or KN95s are the best choice, but not everyone will want to buy and pack enough for their entire family when on vacation, so something is better than nothing - and even if the theory that cloth masks are even less effective with Omicron is correct, they are still better than no mask at all.

What good is compliance if it is doing next to nothing? Can't they sell better disposable masks with characters printed on them? It would probably be more profitable and, if they ever drop the requirement, they can sell any leftovers to children's hospitals at cost.

 

[Incomudro]

Interesting that the phrasing in the headline for the link was shortened to "Not Effective" when the headline when you click the link is actually "Evidence emerging that cloth masks are not as effective as N95 masks against COVID." It's almost like they're going the clickbait route, but we all know the news neeeevvvverrrr does that. In any event, if anyone thought that cloth masks were as effective as N95 masks then they haven't been paying close attention. Cloth masks were just easier to obtain and cheaper in the long run because you can wash them and reuse them instead of throwing them away after each use.

Why do you think the first words out of Dr. Fauci's mouth when masks (non N95) were brought up was "You may stop a droplet."?
He didn't just say that to protect PPE supplies for healthcare workers.
You don't use cloth masks to stop virus's.
My wife, and RN for some 30 years working as a Director of Nursing for about the past ten years or so also said right around the same time: "Those masks (cloth) don't do anything?
Why?
Because as a healthcare professional She, and others in her profession - don't wear cloth masks, even surgical masks to reduce viral spread.
They wear N95's.
They put them on a certain way.
They take them off a certain way.
They don't wear the same one day after day, stuff it in their pocket, or glove compartment, and wear it over and over again.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

What good is compliance if it is doing next to nothing? Can't they sell better disposable masks with characters printed on them? It would probably be more profitable and, if they ever drop the requirement, they can sell any leftovers to children's hospitals at cost.

"Next to nothing" does not equal "nothing." That's the point. Having a large percentage of guests go maskless indoors when there's a highly transmissible virus going around isn't great - which is why Universal went back to requiring them indoors after months and months of people arguing that Disney should drop their mask requirement and follow Universal's lead. I'm not arguing that cloth masks are as good. We all know they're not. But if you can reduce the spread even a little vs. not at all, then you do the thing that reduces it a little.

Could they produce and sell disposable masks with characters on them? Sure. Would they have the same level of compliance they have now? No. What level of compliance they would have is up for debate, but they would certainly have more angry guests than they have now because you'd have the anti-maskers who already don't want to follow the rules but still go and try to avoid complying as much as possible and then you'd add people who were willing to comply who are now angry over being told the type of mask they were willing to buy (a good % bought directly from Disney, too) and wear is no longer allowed after being told it was okay since the parks reopened, so it's a balancing act. It's not ideal, obviously.

 

[Trauma]

So I know things are bad right now. A lot of people are sick and numbers are skyrocketing.

It doesn’t hurt to take a break from bad news and dream of a better tomorrow.

Let’s play a game and see who wins.

What will be the date that Disney drops the mask mandates for the parks? ( not transport )

Let’s put on our Nostradamus hats and pick a date for a healthy, mask free future.

My guess is April 15 2022

To sweeten the pot whoever guesses the closest will win a free 1 month premium membership paid for by me.

Good luck !

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Why do you think the first words out of Dr. Fauci's mouth when masks (non N95) were brought up was "You may stop a droplet."?
He didn't just say that to protect PPE supplies for healthcare workers.
You don't use cloth masks to stop virus's.
My wife, and RN for some 30 years working as a Director of Nursing for about the past ten years or so also said right around the same time: "Those masks (cloth) don't do anything?
Why?
Because as a healthcare professional She, and others in her profession - don't wear cloth masks, even surgical masks to reduce viral spread.
They wear N95's.
They put them on a certain way.
They take them off a certain way.
They don't wear the same one day after day, stuff it in their pocket, or glove compartment, and wear it over and over again.

Was that supposed to contradict something in my post? We all know that there are varying levels of effectiveness with different types of masks. If you read the article, it even cites studies stating that cloth masks are less effective that N95s (obviously), but they still are effective at reducing the spread to some extent. The headline in the link ("not effective" had a completely different meaning that the actual headline and content of the article itself ("less effective"), which was my point. It was click-bait and didn't really offer any information that we didn't already know.

 

[dreday3]

So I know things are bad right now. A lot of people are sick and numbers are skyrocketing.

It doesn’t hurt to take a break from bad news and dream of a better tomorrow.

Let’s play a game and see who wins.

What will be the date that Disney drops the mask mandates for the parks? ( not transport )

Let’s put on our Nostradamus hats and pick a date for a healthy, mask free future.

My guess is April 15 2022

To sweeten the pot whoever guesses the closest will win a free 1 month premium membership paid for by me.

Good luck !

April 8, 2022.

(I don't want a premium membership, I just have a need to win)

 

[G00fyDad]

 

[bdearl41]

What good is compliance if it is doing next to nothing? Can't they sell better disposable masks with characters printed on them? It would probably be more profitable and, if they ever drop the requirement, they can sell any leftovers to children's hospitals at cost.

Hasn’t this proven to be the case with some other strategies that are still implemented. Not arguing just saying the pick and choose nature of this has certainly been frustrating.

 

[bdearl41]

As long as it’s before April 30 I’m good with it.

(I don't want a premium membership, I just have a need to win)

 

[Trauma]

Wow every guess is in April so far lol

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Feb 29th 2023

 

[dreday3]

Feb 29th 2023

It's like bidding $1.00 on The Price is Right!

 

[DisneyCane]

Why do you think the first words out of Dr. Fauci's mouth when masks (non N95) were brought up was "You may stop a droplet."?
He didn't just say that to protect PPE supplies for healthcare workers.
You don't use cloth masks to stop virus's.
My wife, and RN for some 30 years working as a Director of Nursing for about the past ten years or so also said right around the same time: "Those masks (cloth) don't do anything?
Why?
Because as a healthcare professional She, and others in her profession - don't wear cloth masks, even surgical masks to reduce viral spread.
They wear N95's.
They put them on a certain way.
They take them off a certain way.
They don't wear the same one day after day, stuff it in their pocket, or glove compartment, and wear it over and over again.

Also, remember when there was a shortage of N95s and how horrified people were that health care workers were told to cover their face with a shirt because it was "better than nothing." Nobody suggested that it provided any significant level of protection so why would cutting up the shirt and attaching ear straps do any better?