Disney introduces Electric Standing Vehicles for guests with disabilities

rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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More ways for people to be lazy. Now we'll not only have to deal with the jazzy/hoverround crap, we'll have to deal with morons not knowing how to drive one of this things around. Watch your feet. With all the extra junk, i.e. the mindnumbing amount of strollers (it wasn't like that 20 years ago), the 'handicapped' people in their jazzies, and now just the plain lazy people with these things (all for Disney to make a quick $50), we'll barely be able to navigate the parks without having some sort of gps system to tell us how crowded an area is before we go into it. Oh wait, the my magic plus rfid will take care of that. They need to install a special signature blip on on the new smartphone app that ID's and shows where all the idiots with electric vehicles are roaming so we can stay away. They'll be like little flocks of them together. You'll see the 400 pounders out there on them, flocking together like birds, heading to the dole whips, then to the turkey legs, then off to space mountain to gum up the line by requiring front of the line passes for their fake malady. It'll be great!
 
wdw71fan

wdw71fan

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Goofyernmost said:
Not exactly! Those that needed something like an ECV before they were invented, just plain didn't go to a place like Disney because they would not have been able too. Think of it this way. I'm sure that there is abuse of the ECV connection but I don't think it is a big as everyone seems to think. My guess is that for every one person that doesn't really need one, there are 10 that do. Solution: Turn your head the other way, do not try to determine if that person really needs one or not and just take care of yourself and enjoy your experience in the Theme Park.:)
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Difficult to turn your head the other way with the ECV doing a burn out on your foot because they can't drive the damn thing safely.

Limit the speed of the things to the speed of the average walker (5-6 MPH) and you'd solve 90% of the issues.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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wdw71fan said:
Difficult to turn your head the other way with the ECV doing a burn out on your foot because they can't drive the damn thing safely.

Limit the speed of the things to the speed of the average walker (5-6 MPH) and you'd solve 90% of the issues.
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We weren't talking about ECV "incidents", we were talking about ECV presence. Funny thing though, I have been going regularly for 30 years now, and have yet to be hit, brushed or close called by any ECV or Stroller. Never! It would be interesting if there was any way to know why that is. I think it has more to do with the pedestrians awareness of their surroundings front, back and side then some poor person riding a ECV and unable to avoid a collision. I wasn't there for your particular problem, so I cannot be judgmental concerning it. I would, however, be hard pressed to think that anyone in an ECV targets others for injury. Not even us fat people that are a proven scourge to society and have every reason to be hostile.:D
 
jaklgreen

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Goofyernmost said:
We weren't talking about ECV "incidents", we were talking about ECV presence. Funny thing though, I have been going regularly for 30 years now, and have yet to be hit, brushed or close called by any ECV or Stroller. Never! It would be interesting if there was any way to know why that is. I think it has more to do with the pedestrians awareness of their surroundings front, back and side then some poor person riding a ECV and unable to avoid a collision. I wasn't there for your particular problem, so I cannot be judgmental concerning it. I would, however, be hard pressed to think that anyone in an ECV targets others for injury. Not even us fat people that are a proven scourge to society and have every reason to be hostile.:D
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I have seen way too many people "share" the ECV with the whole family to not believe that a huge percentage of people who rent them do not really need them and just are "tired of walking". And they do go too fast+ no training on how to drive them=many people being hit by them. I do agree also that most people do not look where they are going when walking and swerve into the traffic behind/next to them, either in an ECV or walking. There is so much to look at while walking around that people get distracted and not pay attention to where they are going. I have never been hit by one but I am pretty good at watching my surroundings but my kids have almost been hit(kids do not watch where they are going) and I have had to yank them out of the way. My issue is the way the bussing is set up when it comes to the ECV's. They probably can come up with some sort of "scooter" bus that can load them in a more efficient way.
 
Violet

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What if I can only access the park via rollerblades? I can't walk for long, and I can't sit in an ECV or a wheelchair, but I can rollerblade for hours. Do I have a right to wear my rollerblades in the park? I'm not asking this to be a jerk..honestly...would WDW have to accommodate me?
 
Violet

Violet

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jaklgreen said:
My issue is the way the bussing is set up when it comes to the ECV's. They probably can come up with some sort of "scooter" bus that can load them in a more efficient way.
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Ah, but that would cost WDW money! See, they do whatever they need to do to cover their own butts from lawsuits. But they don't seem to invest any of their own money to actually improve these situations for all guests, ECV or not. It's cheaper for them to pass the costs onto the guests, and there is a cost when you have to wait longer for a bus because of ECVs.
 
flynnibus

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Violet said:
What if I can only access the park via rollerblades? I can't walk for long, and I can't sit in an ECV or a wheelchair, but I can rollerblade for hours. Do I have a right to wear my rollerblades in the park? I'm not asking this to be a jerk..honestly...would WDW have to accommodate me?
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No - because they would be able to argue the safety issue for the impact you would cause on other people.. and could offer a reasonable alternative. In addition, you'd have a hard time convincing anyone after the fact the rollerblades were a necessity for your disability :p
 
Violet

Violet

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flynnibus said:
No - because they would be able to argue the safety issue for the impact you would cause on other people.. and could offer a reasonable alternative. In addition, you'd have a hard time convincing anyone after the fact the rollerblades were a necessity for your disability :p
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I guess they could offer me one of these ESVs. Makes sense.

It was fun to think about though :)
 
rle4lunch

rle4lunch

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Goofyernmost said:
First it isn't 200 Lbs, so you can cancel out the weight of the person because roller-blades or cart...same weight of the rider. Second, those "death carts" have brakes...roller-blades don't!
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Okay, 150 lbs, sorry. lol.

Rollerblades have breaks, they're called stoppers on the back of the boot. or falling down.
 
Clever Name

Clever Name

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rct247 said:
The ESV seen at Magic Kingdom yesterday was a paid auditor going around testing attraction cast members since they are new.

Some new info on the ESV. Each park currently only has 2 available and really they are only being issued as a trade out for those that bring a Segway or similar non-approved ESV to the park. They can keep/park their non-approved Segway and pay a $50 deposit (that they will get back) for one to use while in the park. From my understanding, any regular park guests will not be able to rent this model. It is purely for those that need to trade theirs out or have called in advance to make arrangements. This is why there are only 2 in each park. They don't expect there to be much demand. It is primarily available per an agreement to the Segway lawsuit years ago. So, if you do see this in the park, the user will most likely have a very valid reason for using it, versus perhaps some ECV users who rent them purely because the are lazy.
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Being lazy is a recognized disability. Do you know how many jobs I have been fired from because of my laziness? Please don't discriminate against us lazy people. I don't want to be lazy but for me it's a mental disorder.

I have tried to be active and alert all the time, but I can't seem to maintain much interest in doing tasks that require concentration for more than a few minutes. I'm good at procrastination. I watched "The Apprentice" on TV the other night because I was too lazy to get up and find the remote.
 
Lucky

Lucky

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Violet said:
What if I can only access the park via rollerblades? I can't walk for long, and I can't sit in an ECV or a wheelchair, but I can rollerblade for hours. Do I have a right to wear my rollerblades in the park? I'm not asking this to be a jerk..honestly...would WDW have to accommodate me?
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I saw a teenager skating on Heelys run into a CM in an AK gift shop.
 
Vader2112

Vader2112

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Tigger1988 said:
Many trainers take their trainee dogs to the parks. It's actually a good training situation for them to be in. I'd love to know how this impacts your trip, however.
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No issue with true service dogs or one in training for guide dog foundation, law enforcement etc but the ones that get a vest online and slap it on their little pocket dog or another that is clearly not a service dog and bring it into the restaurant where I am eating. That is what annoys me. What ever happened to leaving your animals at home and having a friend or neighbor check in on them feed and care for them while on vacation?
 
Clever Name

Clever Name

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Vader2112 said:
No issue with true service dogs or one in training for guide dog foundation, law enforcement etc but the ones that get a vest online and slap it on their little pocket dog or another that is clearly not a service dog and bring it into the restaurant where I am eating. That is what annoys me. What ever happened to leaving your animals at home and having a friend or neighbor check in on them feedand care for them while on vacation?
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My service cat enjoys WDW. He likes Mickey and Minnie very much!
 

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