Chi84
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I was just trying to alleviate some of your disgust and incredulity with a bit of perspective.Im shocked! I would have never known such a thing. Is there any other incredible tidbits of life you can pass long?
I was just trying to alleviate some of your disgust and incredulity with a bit of perspective.Im shocked! I would have never known such a thing. Is there any other incredible tidbits of life you can pass long?
But Genie+/ILL at least allows a person who otherwise couldn’t experience those rides the opportunity to do so, albeit a paid opportunity. (I much preferred FP+.) Lines for the most popular rides will almost always be extremely long, with or without the exacerbation of Genie+/ILL.I don’t condone the abuse of DAS. But surely the lengthy wait times exacerbated by the G+/ILL push the experience into untenable territory from a medical standpoint for some. Case in point: went years ago with my father in law. Cancer survivor, but tough guy. He probably couldn’t be on his feet for an hour+ in a line. We went during FP+ days thankfully but don’t see how some of these experiences now (even with a mix of G+ and ILL) would be tenable for him were he still with us. He did have handicap placard for his car but never used it,’probably could have sought out DAS but never did so.
Oh I agree. But even G+ has its limitations, and I feel like it’s usefulness is capped in ways FP wasn’t. It too is bound by the laws of physics (and low throughput and capacity)But Genie+/ILL at least allows a person who otherwise couldn’t experience those rides the opportunity to do so, albeit a paid opportunity. (I much preferred FP+.) Lines for the most popular rides will almost always be extremely long, with or without the exacerbation of Genie+/ILL.
It definitely is more challenging for us than FP+. But I’m aware it works better for those who are looking for a more ride-centered vacation than we are.Oh I agree. But even G+ has its limitations, and I feel like it’s usefulness is capped in ways FP wasn’t. It too is bound by the laws of physics (and low throughput and capacity)
It definitely is more challenging for us than FP+. But I’m aware it works better for those who are looking for a more ride-centered vacation than we are.
You're preaching to the choir. I loved FP+ - our trips were never better. I was just repeating what some Genie+ users were saying here. Our "pounding rides" days are long over, so I have no personal experience as to how it works for people who want to hit every ride in a park on the same day.Does it, though?
I suppose it partially depends on the length of the trip, but I feel like it was easier to get on all the rides I wanted with FP+ than with Genie+, and it made each day simpler. Plus it didn't require some people to have a messed up sleep schedule and/or be sleep deprived on every day of the trip (people say you can just set an alarm and then go back to sleep, but that's not how sleep works -- being wakened and then going back to sleep is very different for your body than sleeping straight through).
We’re pretty chaotic and try to do as much as we can in one day. I’d say FP+ was far superior, see my next comment below as to why. With Genie+ I get about 80% if what I want to ride in. Then, I have to pay extra for ILL on rides genie+ isn’t available for. The issue is that you can only have one ride reservation at once. If they opened it up to even 2 rides at a time, it would be MUCH better.You're preaching to the choir. I loved FP+ - our trips were never better. I was just repeating what some Genie+ users were saying here. Our "pounding rides" days are long over, so I have no personal experience as to how it works for people who want to hit every ride in a park on the same day.
Yes, I did use FP+ on super busy days. If you know the system well, you can generally make it work well. For busy holiday rides, you book three rides as early as you can, then you refresh for the rides you want afterwards and will eventually get a decent amount of cancellations and no show opportunities. This still happened on holidays. I was able to almost always make this work. That being said, I was never there on NYE or Christmas Day, but was there multiple Presidents’ Day weekends and thanksgiving week.For those that really loved FP+ and are missing it when did you travel? Did you ever try using it during a super busy holiday week? We can only go during school breaks and in those weeks (like Thanksgiving) you got a rope drop ride, your three FP rides and that was it. By lunchtime things like even Ariel or Barnstormer were 90 minute waits. In a park like Epcot you got one ride plus two things you really didn't care about. That system wasn't better. I found those trips way more frustrating than I have my recent ones. Back in 2014 and 2015 when we could travel without worrying about school sure I loved FP+. It was horrible for truly busy times though and I do not miss it.
Is this system the one? No. It's a vast improvement for holiday time though. Ultimately though arguing about it is silly. It's not going anywhere time soon. All I can hope is that with the extra money Disney is making from this it will eventually be invested back into the park. Lack of capacity is the real issue here.
Yes, during spring break. I always did really well out of it. I used it much as @Drdcm describes above.For those that really loved FP+ and are missing it when did you travel? Did you ever try using it during a super busy holiday week?
Here’s where I have a lot of trouble with the new system. Take what I expect will eventually be the case for Tron as an example. I can pay $616 just to get into the park with a family of 4. Then, if I want to go on tron, I can choose to waste multiple hours of my day (effectively reducing the value of the ticket) or, I can fork over another $120ish so my family can go on a 60s ride.
To me, it’s not worth it. So I won’t do Tron standby, and I won’t do ILL. Now I’m upset, so I won’t come, and I’m not planning to.
I legitimately think Disney is going to be in big trouble in the coming years. I for one won’t be there bailing them out unless they reintroduce perks to entice me back.
I get the Yogism and appreciate the humor, but this is not the case. Their attendance is certainly not up.Nobody goes to Disney World anymore, it’s too crowded.
I get the Yogism and appreciate the humor, but this is not the case. Their attendance is certainly not up.
it was from the previous pandemic recovery year, but the trend before and during 2021 is still down. The TEA reports show this.Didn't they just announce it was up over last year?
It won’t be. Tron has a much slower loading time and far smaller capacity. It’s going to be like Rise at least initially.If it's anything like Cosmic Rewind, you'll be able to get into the virtual queue easily enough. 7AM drops can be tough, but the 1PM ones are relatively easy to snag.
Yeah, it's Presidents Day Weekend. So you will not see that pricing again until parts of Spring Break or Easter if it works well for them.I've made peace with paying $15 pp for our trip in 2024. I don't think I can make peace with $29 though.
I know that's a "the parks are crazy crowded" price, so hopefully when we go it's still around $15 lol.
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