Disney employees vote against unionization

[brich]

(sorry... brain temporarily left its casing... I forgot that it was run by a member of the Bush dynasty... right to work... yadda yadda... *sigh*)

Interesting

 

[ThreeCircles]

Whaaat? Mandatory overtime? Isn't there any labour legislation in FLA???

(sorry... brain temporarily left its casing... I forgot that it was run by a member of the Bush dynasty... right to work... yadda yadda... *sigh*)

20 lashes with a wet churro for you!

We're not only a so-called "right-to-work" state but we have a nasty, nasty governor, as you noticed when you came to your senses.

Check this out.http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/14/Tampabay/Suit_says_missing_smi.shtml

 

[mkt]

Whaaat? Mandatory overtime? Isn't there any labour legislation in FLA???

(sorry... brain temporarily left its casing... I forgot that it was run by a member of the Bush dynasty... right to work... yadda yadda... *sigh*)

then don't ever come to Florida and look for work. While I can't stand Yosemite Sam and his cronies governing our state, I am pretty much anti-union as well....

...there's just something about paying union dues for several years, and then having the union refuse to fight for me when I needed it, and ultimately costing me my job.

 

[lawyergirl77]

then don't ever come to Florida and look for work. While I can't stand Yosemite Sam and his cronies governing our state, I am pretty much anti-union as well....

...there's just something about paying union dues for several years, and then having the union refuse to fight for me when I needed it, and ultimately costing me my job.

I don't want to get into a debate about unions as such, as they have cost me a job that I loved in University (and kept me at half of the wages that a similarly placed colleague was earning, simply because I was a student!), and because I work for a management-side law firm...

My post was about the fact that, even in the absence of unions, there is normally some kind of legislation to protect ALL employees from things like mandatory overtime. For example, in Quebec, according to the Labour Standards Act all employees have the right to refuse overtime if it will take them above 40 hours already worked in their workweek (unless the employer gets the okay from the Labour Board). And you also have a right to refuse overtime if you have pressing family obligations to attend (usually involve illness of a family member).

I was just surprised that there was a 60 hour mandatory overtime in place at CRO. That just wouldn't be allowed here...

 

[mkt]

the WDW Union contract permits mandatory overtime I believe.. then again, it's been 2 years since I worked there, and I burned my copy of the Union contact

 

[lawyergirl77]

the WDW Union contract permits mandatory overtime I believe.. then again, it's been 2 years since I worked there, and I burned my copy of the Union contact

Collective Agreements aren't allowed to opt out of the provisions of the Labour Standards Act in Quebec (or out of any similar legislation in a Canadian province). They're deemed to be a part of the Agreement if the terms are silent. So refusing overtime is a fundamental right of any employee.

Yeah, remind me never to go and work in Florida. Sounds like anarchy, and I'm usually on the side of management!!!!!

 

[daveemtdave]

When you have mandatory overtime, do you get overtime wages? I have noticed more and more companies are stopping overtime pay. I always thought it was against the law not to pay it; but guess what, no company is required by law to pay this.

 

[mkt]

From what a CM in my neighborhood says, the current contract states mandatory OT will get paid time and a half, but voluntary OT gets paid straight time.

 

[lawyergirl77]

From what a CM in my neighborhood says, the current contract states mandatory OT will get paid time and a half, but voluntary OT gets paid straight time.

I know I keep saying this in this thread but: WHAAAAAAAAAAT????

Someone tell me that this isn't true! I know so many employees (obviously not in WDW) who depend on volunteering for overtime in order to be able to make ends meet some months.

 

[daveemtdave]

This follows the way it is in most of the companies here. I know many people who used that income to make ends meet also; but it was do this or no job at all.

 

[mkt]

I know I keep saying this in this thread but: WHAAAAAAAAAAT????

Someone tell me that this isn't true! I know so many employees (obviously not in WDW) who depend on volunteering for overtime in order to be able to make ends meet some months.

Florida is an interesting place... read the Florida Statutes regarding labor.. your head might spin.

So... what kind of law do you practice? I have a highly legal family, so I'm always pondering restarting my education and going to law school. Something about working in a law firm out of college that already has my last name attached to it... that would rule.

 

[DisneyInTN]

I'm glad there was no Unionization. The Union is doing WONDERS for GM. Just as an example, each car that rolls off a GM line already has about $2000 worth of employee benefit costs that goes to the consumer. Therefore, as many of you know, GM is having a hard time competing with other autmakers. (Layoffs *cough cough*)

 

[inafog]

I also see more and more agents abuse the system by rushing the guest to book a new reservation, ignoring courtesy holds made by other agents to steal the revenue, and not following procedures, that lead to guest dissatisfactions when they arrive. There currently is not a working check and balance system to stop this, so poor performance agents are exceeding their goals, and the good performance agents that are fixing the mistakes are failing the goal because of unnecessary modification calls.

I hadn't thought about this before today, but I wonder if the quota system is why I always seem to have to call back when I want to book an AP rate. For my July/August trip, I called the first week the code was available; the agent I spoke to (who was in Utah) couldn't find AP rates for my dates, not in deluxe and not in a moderate. I went ahead and booked and called the next week and got the rate with no trouble. The first agent told me that she had heard that the rooms had not been released for those dates yet; I wonder if she just didn't put the code in to help her reach her quota.

Also, last October I stayed at CBR on a postcard rate. The agent I spoke to actually told me about the postcard rate, which popped up for her when she put my name in, so I took it. While actually on the trip I met a huge number of people who had "it-ruined-my-trip" stories. One of these was a woman I was talking to on the bus to CBR who had asked for the postcard rate and was told by the booking agent that all she needed to do was bring the postcard with her when she came to check in. Well, obviously, she didn't get the rate. So maybe this was another agent who was trying to make the quota.

I don't know if the quota system was in place yet but now I'm wondering if these are stories we'll see more of as people try to make the quota.