Disney Boycott

[JLW11Hi]

But I have to admit, a smile did come across my face when I read that Ice Age brought in more revenue on it's first weekend than Return to Neverland ever will. Quality will win out, always*.

That is true! However, Ice Age probably costed a bundle to make, where Return to Neverland was cheaply made. Overall, they would probably make around the same profit. Once Ice Age hits video, however, it will probably make more.

 

[pheneix]

>>>I thought GE still sponsors Illuminations?<<<

It is only a matter of time before they leave. Does anyone know when their contract expires?

>>>Overall, they would probably make around the same profit.<<<

No, Ice Age has already blown away Neverland. The home video sells will only rub salt into the wound.

 

[JLW11Hi]

No, Ice Age has already blown away Neverland. The home video sells will only rub salt into the wound.

You are right there! I guess I should have rephrased it, although Neverland will make much less in the end, it still makes a profit, and cheaply, which is never a bad thing financial wise.

I liked Ice Age. Raymond was funny.

Hey, who could they get to sponsor Illuminations? That must be an expensive show.

 

[pheneix]

Heck I don't know. Disney may try to shoulder the expenses themselves, and if that were to happen, it would not surprise me at all to see them slash the number of shows and cancel all weekday performances of it during the off-season, thus allowing them to close Epcot at 7 with the rest of the parks. The only reason they are running the show daily now is because someone else is paying for it.

 

[DisneyWorldGuru]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>I thought GE still sponsors Illuminations?<<<

It is only a matter of time before they leave. Does anyone know when their contract expires?

I am guessing mabye sometime next year. I am not sure.

 

[wdwmaniac]

I don't think any of the companies now would pull out of Disney becuase it wouldn't be hard to fill there spot. Kodax leave- Fuji Film or Cannon, GM- Ford, Crysler, Toyoto, HP- Dell, Gateway, Coca-Cola- Pepsi you get my point.

 

[MKingdom25]

Originally posted by wdwmaniac
I don't think any of the companies now would pull out of Disney becuase it wouldn't be hard to fill there spot. Kodax leave- Fuji Film or Cannon, GM- Ford, Crysler, Toyoto, HP- Dell, Gateway, Coca-Cola- Pepsi you get my point.

I agree with you on this. Plus who would want to leave a Disney sponsorship? That would seem like a gem in the rough for a company!

 

[MrPromey]

Originally posted by pheneix
>>>I thought GE still sponsors Illuminations?<<<

It is only a matter of time before they leave. Does anyone know when their contract expires?

>>>Overall, they would probably make around the same profit.<<<

No, Ice Age has already blown away Neverland. The home video sells will only rub salt into the wound.

Well, considering that they re-upped for the New show in 1999, I'd guess they have a while... Why would you say they are going to jump ship? Aside from the negative Disney view that you have made very apparent in nearly all of your posts, what evidence do you have to support what you are saying? GE first sponsored COP, then Horizons and has been doing Illuminations for a good long while now. It's possibly one of the most visible and intelegently tied sponsorships in all of Epcot.

 

[MrPromey]

Originally posted by pheneix


But I have to admit, a smile did come across my face when I read that Ice Age brought in more revenue on it's first weekend than Return to Neverland ever will. Quality will win out, always*.

* Unless you build it in France, in which case you are screwed at every turn. :animwink:

Never mind that CG animated movies are now known to preform better in the box office than traditional animation. Also, lets overlook the fact that the quality of animation in ICE Age is some of the worst (possibly not as bad as Jimmy Neutron) ever to hit the big screen. Ice age brought in about $175 million which, while making a profit, doesn't even come close to the amount that Pixar and Dreamworks have been getting with their CG animations... In the correct context, ICE Age still comes in towards the back of the pack... Oh yes, one last thing: Return to Neverland? It was animated on a budget for a direct to video release. It was decided after the movie was in the can, that it would be released in theaters. That means that whatever money the did make on it in theaters (about $48.5 million, almost as much as some movies in the top 50 grossing for 2001) was pure profit after marketing expenses and it's not unreasonable to expect (as with what happened with Atlantis) for it to make about twice that in video sales...

 

[Talsonic]

Hope they stay the course!

Just to muddy the waters a little, I have posted the 30 stocks that make up the Dow Jones Industrial Average. These are the "big gun" blue chip stocks in the USA and actually the world since they are all international in scope. The companies with a "+" after their name are current sponsors of attractions at WDW. It is very impressive that WDW has sponsors from 1/3 of the biggest and best as follows:

3M
Alcoa
American Express+
A T & T+
Boeing
Caterpillar
Citigroup
Coca Cola+
DuPont
Eastman Kodak+
Exxon Mobil+
General Electric Company+
General Motors+
Home Depot
Honeywell International
Hewlett-Packard+
IBM
Intel
International Paper Company
Johnson & Johnson
JP Morgan
MacDonalds+
Merck & Co
Microsoft
Philip Morris
Proctor & Gamble
SBC Communications
United Technologies
Walmart
Walt Disney+

Disney wants to stay in step with the big boys. Sure, they have lots of other sponsors (such as FedEx ,Coppertone, Sony and lots of others) but Disney doesn't want to be associated with Ford because GM is so much bigger and better. Disney doesn't want Fuji Film because they have Eastman Kodak. Disney is also very cautious concerning their "squeaky clean" reputation (and rightfully so IMHO). Captain EO bit the dust shortly after Michael Jackson was associated with pedophilia. Much of the Disney empire is built upon public perceptions and expectations both good and bad. As has been discussed in this forum, Disney owns and operates several movie companies that produce "R" rated films. WDW and Touchstone Pictures don't really mesh too well so Disney makes a clear distinction between those divisions.

Now, having seen the foregoing list ask yourself this question, "Would WDW want to have Philip Morris as a sponsor?". I think you'll agree that the answer is no, because Philip Morris is an "evil" tobacco company. In reality, some Philip Morris subsidiaries do sponsor Disney attractions but you have to do some research to find out who and what Philip Morris owns. In short, you won't see the Philip Morris name as a sponsor at WDW. Also, WDW lost a "big fish" when United Technologies pulled their sponsorship of "The Living Seas" (pun intended).

Also remember that Monsanto once was a big sponsor at Disneyland way back at the time when Monsanto was in the DOW 30 and Disney was just a small company. Monsanto is now history (well really a subsidiary of Pharmacia & Upjohn, Inc.) due to poor corporate dealings with the public. Let's hope Disney is smarter than Monsanto. I think they are! So I don't think you'll see any association of Disney with Ford, Chrysler, Cannon or Fuji. Toyota, well maybe if the deal was right.

 

[wdwmaniac]

Ford because GM is so much bigger and better.- LOL FORD IS THE BEST!!! They sell more cars than anyone in the World (with the FORD Name on them but the ford company is second in the world for cars sales)

Also Phillip Morris aka. Kraft Foods use to support the Land

Caterpillar is in Disneyland Cal.