Disney Balances Family Image With a Need for More Thrills; New Warnings for Parents

speck76

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Fine Line on Wild Rides
Disney Balances Family Image With a Need for More Thrills; New Warnings for Parents


By MERISSA MARR and KIM-MAI CUTLER
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 1, 2005


Each day, thousands of visitors to Walt Disney Co.'s theme parks ride pulse-pounding attractions that propel them into space, plunge them multiple stories and send them racing along tracks at stomach-churning speeds.

For the most part, visitors ride without worrying much about the risks, especially when the attractions are backed by a trusted, family brand like Disney. But it takes just one headline-grabbing accident -- like the recent death of a four-year-old boy on the Mission: Space attraction at Disney's Epcot park in Orlando -- to raise questions about safety, regulation and whether Disney has pushed the envelope too far when it comes to thrills.

The Mission: Space incident illustrates a difficult dilemma for Disney: even though its rides are usually not as extreme as parks owned by Six Flags Inc. -- where some roller coasters top 450-foot heights and go from zero to 128 miles per hour in 3.5 seconds -- Disney's family-friendly reputation puts it under a harsher spotlight when things go wrong. "Disney is the happiest place on earth," says author David Koenig, who has written a number of books independently about the company. "Nobody can get hurt at Disneyland."

Indeed, many Disney theme-park customers still carry expectations of the world that Walt Disney first conceived for the original Disneyland in Anaheim, Calif., in the 1950s. The late Mr. Disney sought to create rides the whole family could enjoy together. But under pressure from faster, bigger and scarier rides at other parks, Disney has introduced more intense attractions in recent years.

Disney insists it's not in the business of extreme rides and offers a balance of attractions that are more about telling stories than providing thrills. In an effort to reassure visitors, the company in recent years has launched an aggressive campaign to publicize its safety efforts for the first time. "Thrill rides are not what Disney is about," says Eric Jacobson, vice president of Walt Disney Imagineering's creative division, which masterminds Disney's theme park rides. "The ride is not the driver for the experience. It's just a device to help us tell a broader story."

Still, Disney's attractions have gotten a lot more daring than the days of Snow White's Adventures, the company's not-so-thrilling attempt at a darker attraction in the original Disneyland -- it was later renamed Snow White's Scary Adventures. As rival parks raced to outdo each other, Disney took its rides up a notch in the 1970s with attractions like the roller coasters Space Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. It later followed with The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, in which an elevator free falls 13 stories; the Aerosmith Rock 'n' Roller Coaster which goes 0-60 mph in 2.8 seconds; and Test Track in which cars take corners at 65 mph.

Grappling with stagnant attendance in the wake of Sept. 11, Walt Disney opened its most advanced ride in 2003 -- the $100 million Mission: Space. Based on NASA training techniques, the ride simulates a journey to Mars using centrifugal forces that spin passengers in much the same way as the "whirl and hurl" rides of more hardcore parks.

The ride was so realistic during its test phase that vomiting was common and Disney had to hose down the exit ramps, say people familiar with the situation. The ride registered eight complaints in a little over a year after making its debut -- more than any other ride in the park. Most of the reported incidents were from older visitors complaining of chest pain and nausea, according to the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, Florida's theme park regulator. As it often does with new rides, Disney tweaked Mission: Space before its launch so that it wasn't so harsh on riders, although the ride still makes some visitors ill and air-sickness bags are provided.

Disney says the gravitational force of Mission: Space is less than typical roller coasters. Passengers experience an estimated 2.3Gs -- equivalent to 2.3 times a passenger's body weight -- compared to estimates of more than 4Gs on roller coasters like Kingda Ka at the Six Flags Great Adventure park in Jackson, New Jersey. Kingda Ka, however, has been closed since June 8 following a malfunction during a test run and will reopen after a piece of the track is repaired, a spokeswoman says.

The difference with Mission: Space is that it is over a longer period. "I've never felt anything like Mission: Space's sustained Gs," theme park enthusiast and author Arthur Levine wrote in an online column that reviews rides.

Disney also uses effects, sound and in some cases smell to make its rides seem more intense. For instance, Disney's upcoming Expedition Everest "high speed train adventure" -- Disney speak for a roller coaster -- at Walt Disney World will include blasts of frigid air.


Like Disney's other more advanced rides, Mission: Space comes with a 44-inch height restriction and health warnings that caution visitors against taking the ride if they have conditions like high blood pressure, heart, back or neck problems or motion sickness. Disney sets a height rather than an age restriction to ensure young passengers can be properly restrained in the seat. It's also harder to monitor age, rather than height. But the death of Daudi Bamuwamye on Mission: Space has raised questions about whether there should be an age requirement.

The four-year-old, who died after passing out on the ride, met the height restriction, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Office. An autopsy found no trauma and further tests are being conducted to establish the cause of death, says Sheri Blanton, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner's office in Orlando.

Similarly, it's hard to monitor the health of a passenger and whether they are too frail to take a ride. And it's impossible to assess if a passenger has an unknown heart or brain problem. For instance, a four-year-old died after collapsing on Disney's "Body Wars" ride at Epcot in 1995; while an autopsy didn't provide conclusive evidence for the cause of death, the girl was later discovered to have had an undiagnosed heart problem.

Despite the warning signs, some visitors don't expect such intense rides from Disney. When it comes to young children in particular, parents need to "play an important role in the partnership to ensure safety," says Disney's Chief Safety Officer Greg Hale.

Mr. Hale was appointed in the wake of 9/11 as part of a new drive to make Disney's safety efforts more public. Using characters from "The Lion King," Disney launched a "Wild About Safety" campaign that included 10,000 new warning signs for its rides. and a list of 12 safety tips for visitors that include "don't pressure kids to take rides that may be too scary for them" and "don't take rides if you are not feeling well."

For the first time, it also publicized its safety standards, which include daily ride inspections. Disney says it spends years developing and testing its rides, and is quick to shut them down if there's a problem. For instance, after a 62-year-old woman fell sick on the Matterhorn Bobsleds at Disneyland this week, Disney closed the ride for a day.

The International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions says the chance of a fatal injury on a fixed site amusement ride is 1 in 790 million. The chance of being injured seriously enough to require overnight hospitalization is 1 in 10 million, it says.

Still, some people argue that the theme parks industry needs more regulation. Since 1981, the government has not considered fixed site amusement rides consumer products and therefore are free of oversight by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. In public statements, Rep. Ed Markey, (D., Mass.) has said that means federal investigators can't inspect rides even after accidents like Daudi Bamuwamye's. Rep. Markey is lobbying for more federal oversight.

Last week, the California Supreme Court took a step toward toughening regulations by ruling that amusement park rides must abide by the same state safety standards for other modes of transport, such as buses and trains.

At the very least, theme parks should improve the way they report accidents, some executives say. "In general, people would welcome more accurate data, because the inaccuracy or the incompleteness doesn't give a true picture," says James Barber, a spokesman for the National Association of Amusement Ride Safety Officials.

Write to Merissa Marr at merissa.marr@wsj.com
 

wdwishes2005

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ummm. no disney is not pushing the envolope on non family friendly rides. come on, what that disney spokesperson said was true, all and i repeat ALL of disneys rides are themed, some more than others, but they are all family friendly. I mean if say a 95 year old lady in failing health goes on rock n rollercoaster and is hospitalized for a year, that does not show poor judgement on disney's fault, it shows that the lady was an idiot. Honestly, your more likely to be.... Struck by lightning, trip and fall and die, get killed by murderous elderly people on hoverrounds, or get eaten by a cat than die on one of these ride. I really hope that amusement parks don't become 30 dumbo rides or fade away into the sunset due to lawsuits of retards who A. disobey the ride rules and end up dead, hurt or traumatized. or B. Go on rides they know they can't handle.
i love thrill rides and if i could chose a place to die naturally it would be on a coaster/thrill ride, and i wouldnt want them to close the ride either.
 

wdwishes2005

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Disney insists it's not in the business of extreme rides and offers a balance of attractions that are more about telling stories than providing thrills. In an effort to reassure visitors, the company in recent years has launched an aggressive campaign to publicize its safety efforts for the first time. "Thrill rides are not what Disney is about," says Eric Jacobson, vice president of Walt Disney Imagineering's creative division, which masterminds Disney's theme park rides. "The ride is not the driver for the experience. It's just a device to help us tell a broader story."

end of debate, truer words may never have been spoken

sorry for the rant but its my favorite hobby.
 

I.M.Fearless

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Sounds like that article blew things a little out of proportion to me. I think telling a story with a thrill ride is an awesome idea and is why Disney has, in my opinion, the best thrill rides in the world.
WOOT
 
Since disney is a family theme park, they need something for everyone! That is why they build the thrill rides! This incident on m:s won't stop me from going on it because it it one of my favorite rides! :D
 

AndreainNY

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Oh come on - DISNEY is pushing the envelope????? What about some of the roller-coasters that have come out recently?? Higher, faster, more loops and drops, floorless, standing, and the one that makes it seem like you are flying? How do those compare with Mission Space? I don't personally like roller-coasters (and I am very motion sensitive, so you won't find me on Mission Space anytime soon), but my husband and my son love those kinds of rides, and both say that they love Mission Space because of it's intensity, but both found they were more disoriented riding The Hulk at Universal.

Bottom line, different people react differently. For me (and this a purely a personal decision), a 4 year old is too young to ride something like Mission Space, even if they met the height restrictions. Would you send a 4 year old on a Space Mission? No? They why put them on something that simulates a Space Mission????????There are signs everywhere that warn how intense the ride is, you decide to ride at your own risk. To me, the rides at the local carnivals, the ones that are not bolted down and travel from place to place all year long, are more dangerous that anything that Disney can offer up!!

These are purely my opinions and are not meant to get anyone offended. What happened was a tragedy and it is right that Disney and other officials inspect the ride to ensure that there was nothing out of order, but they should not be shouldering all of the blame for what happened.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

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speck76 said:
When it comes to young children in particular, parents need to "play an important role in the partnership to ensure safety," says Disney's Chief Safety Officer Greg Hale.
:sohappy: Just what I've been saying all along
 

wdwmagic

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Interesting. The authors of this article are members on this forum and were canvasing members via Private Messaging for their experiences on Mission Space.
 

wdwmagic

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As it often does with new rides, Disney tweaked Mission: Space before its launch so that it wasn't so harsh on riders, although the ride still makes some visitors ill and air-sickness bags are provided.

This isnt true. Mission Space's G profile was set in stone long before the ride even left its test bed in a hangar. It has never had its performance profile changed since guests were allowed on the ride (confirmed to me by more than one member of Walt Disney Imagineering). It's amazing how even the WSJ read rumors online, take them as fact, and then republish them.
 

righttrack

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All it takes is a trip to Great Adventure in NJ to know that Disney is not in the thrill ride business. Its not even in the same industry!
 

Shaman

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wdwmagic said:
This isnt true. Mission Space's G profile was set in stone long before the ride even left its test bed in a hangar. It has never had its performance profile changed since guests were allowed on the ride (confirmed to me by more than one member of Walt Disney Imagineering). It's amazing how even the WSJ read rumors online, take them as fact, and then republish them.

Doesn't surprise me that such a practice takes place...

Perhaps the writers of said article, would care to make themselves available (out in the open forum air) for questions related to their article...

(I find it interesting WSJ reporters are members here :D )
 

Disneydreaming

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AndreainNY said:
Oh come on - DISNEY is pushing the envelope????? What about some of the roller-coasters that have come out recently?? Higher, faster, more loops and drops, floorless, standing, and the one that makes it seem like you are flying? How do those compare with Mission Space? I don't personally like roller-coasters (and I am very motion sensitive, so you won't find me on Mission Space anytime soon), but my husband and my son love those kinds of rides, and both say that they love Mission Space because of it's intensity, but both found they were more disoriented riding The Hulk at Universal.

Bottom line, different people react differently. For me (and this a purely a personal decision), a 4 year old is too young to ride something like Mission Space, even if they met the height restrictions. Would you send a 4 year old on a Space Mission? No? They why put them on something that simulates a Space Mission????????There are signs everywhere that warn how intense the ride is, you decide to ride at your own risk. To me, the rides at the local carnivals, the ones that are not bolted down and travel from place to place all year long, are more dangerous that anything that Disney can offer up!!

These are purely my opinions and are not meant to get anyone offended. What happened was a tragedy and it is right that Disney and other officials inspect the ride to ensure that there was nothing out of order, but they should not be shouldering all of the blame for what happened.



I couldn't have said it better myself.


Linda
 

lawyergirl77

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That article was somewhat less objectionable than some of the other tripe that has been floating around the media since the M:S incident... until the last line pushed it right back into the realm of "Fair and Balanced" à la Fox News.

Yes, more information is always good. *Golf clap* Mazel Tov. But that last line implies that theme park operators are sitting around a desk, rubbing their hands with evil glee, cackling to themselves "mwah ha ha! How can we endanger our guests and fool safety regulators even more this month? mwah ha ha ha!"

In reality, they're too busy counting their piles of money! ;)
 

wdwishes2005

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in my opinion disney is pushing the envolope the other way a little. in order to be FAMILY friendly it needs to have something for everyone right.??? well im part of a FAMILY and i enjoy intense thrill rides. Don't get me wrong, i love Disney but i think they need to start building impressive coasters and thrill rides. i guess im just weird but i don't even go on mission space that much because to me its boring. So in order for Disney to be FAMILY friendly they need to include things for FAMILY members that enjoy going 120 miles per hour through loops.

just my 2 cents
 

lebeau

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wdwmagic said:
Interesting. The authors of this article are members on this forum and were canvasing members via Private Messaging for their experiences on Mission Space.

Yep. I got "interviewed" for the article but was not quoted :(

Oh well.
 

AEfx

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What makes no sense about this is that even the most extreme "thrill" rides at WDW look like Dumbo when compared to other amusement parks rides.

Making Disney the target is just...making Disney the target, nothing more.

It's too bad, because I think the point of theme parks needing more regulation is true - but I think they should be looking at the death traps at regional/local parks instead of some of the safest parks in the world.

AEfx
 

wdwishes2005

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AEfx said:
but I think they should be looking at the death traps at regional/local parks instead of some of the safest parks in the world.

AEfx

Death traps???? honestly your more likely to die on a swing set than at the chessiest or least maintained fair.

not trying to be rude but Death traps are a little harsh of words for fairs. I mean Mcdonalds are more of a death trap than fairs.
 

AEfx

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wdwishes2005 said:
Death traps???? honestly your more likely to die on a swing set than at the chessiest or least maintained fair.

not trying to be rude but Death traps are a little harsh of words for fairs. I mean Mcdonalds are more of a death trap than fairs.

LOL.

Sorry if I offended you.

I simply was saying that the rides at WDW are much tamer than most of the rides available at other types of parks that offer mechanical rides so it makes little sense for them to focus on WDW for anything other than name-brand value.

Yes, I understand fully that the chances of dying on a theme park ride are minimal. ;)

AEfx
 

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