Why is it that Disney doesn't allow video taping of their rides and attractions?
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Well, my guess is that on thrill rides like ToT and Test Track, I am sure they don't want people losing the cameras over the side of the vehicle, because 1) people don't want their things to be lost and 2) Disney doesn't like to have to shut down an entire attraction to pull a camera out of the ride somewhere.
As for the shows, well, probably because external lighting is annoying to other guests, but I realize that most of the shows like CoP and American Adventure dont allow recording at all. Mabey so people don't go out and show it to everyone before they come to WDW? I dont know. I think you are allowed to do it on most slow-moving rides (I have on rides like Pooh, Peter Pan, IASW, etc)
As for the shows, well, probably because external lighting is annoying to other guests, but I realize that most of the shows like CoP and American Adventure dont allow recording at all. Mabey so people don't go out and show it to everyone before they come to WDW? I dont know. I think you are allowed to do it on most slow-moving rides (I have on rides like Pooh, Peter Pan, IASW, etc)
WDWFanatic
Active Member
Im going to say copyright laws, and for the comfort of guests around you. Maybe even infared on some cameras could mess up things in theory. I'm guessing. Do you really want someone flinging around a video camera on say indiana jones tempel of the forbidden eye?
Andy
New Member
Its copyright laws. For example on a Disney DVD, Disney owns all of the rights, from soundtrack to character designs etc. Its the same on the rides, the soundtrack, music, characters, events etc are owned by Disney, just the same as a movie, except you can step right into it. However, laws are hazy around this subject, but Disney could definitely sue you over it.
Hope this has helped
Andy
Hope this has helped
Andy
Um I can understand shows now... I can now remember going to Six Flags over Georgia and towards the end of the day, we stoped and talked with someone from the cyrstal pistal show room, and she said that they close the curtons because the light from that really distracts the performers.
But on dark rides and such I just don't understand it...
I could understand why they don't during the peek hours, but what about early mornings and such? Not many people are there during that time, so they could alow a single rider durning those times...
But on dark rides and such I just don't understand it...
I could understand why they don't during the peek hours, but what about early mornings and such? Not many people are there during that time, so they could alow a single rider durning those times...
WDWFanatic
Active Member
Well unfortunately some people are idiots and ruin things for other people. Case in point, I was in the little mermaid show and this jerk in front of me had his camera taping the entire time. He had the little screen poped out to annoy us even more, then he kept turning on the nightvision thing and you could see all the actors moving across the stage with the puppets. I was totally ed off and after the show we followed him out talking loud behind him about how people like to ruin things for other people.
I think he got the point.
I think he got the point.
true that... but for the ones that want to actually do this for people like us, they know not to use the inferred, night vision, or flip out screens... they all know to only record and do just make sure to zoom when the apropriate time comes and what not...
I to hate when people do that... but those are the ones that are just doing it to off others, and for personal enjoyment....
We film rides for the people that can not get to the parks because of disablement, sickness, or lack of money... sure the ones that don't have all these disablements enjoy them too, but thats what all this origenally started out as (right?, correct me if I am wrong please...). It is those jerks that do it for shear spite that ruin it for us...
I to hate when people do that... but those are the ones that are just doing it to off others, and for personal enjoyment....
We film rides for the people that can not get to the parks because of disablement, sickness, or lack of money... sure the ones that don't have all these disablements enjoy them too, but thats what all this origenally started out as (right?, correct me if I am wrong please...). It is those jerks that do it for shear spite that ruin it for us...
WDWFanatic
Active Member
Well I'll say this, most of them are doing it for spite and there are the few that think they are the first to discover this new fangled technology on their video cameras and must make sure they are recognized by everyone around them. Hey look at me I bought an $800 camera! Yeah? so did I but I didnt pay full price.:lol:
RogueHabit
Well-Known Member
Generally this is only when it might cause a danger or discomfort to others.
I have videoed many shows and never had a problem. They normally say you can video as long as you don't have an external light on your camera and you can take photos as long as you don't use a flash.
As far as rides go, it just isn't safe on ToT and the like.
Other than safety I would be hard pressed to recall a show or ride that stops you videoing, except for Star Tours.
mikebrakes
New Member
I found the rides they don't allow taping, you would have a tough time recording anyway. The 3-D films you can't tape. (TTBAB and Muppets). You would have to hold the glasses in front of the lens to record it. Maybe too many people were breaking the glasses to get a lens. lol
Other rides (like RnR) are kind of rough. I belive it's because Disney feels your recorder could fall out of your hands and hurt somebody, or people may just try to hold Disney responsible if their camcorder gets broken.
Just my opinion.
Other rides (like RnR) are kind of rough. I belive it's because Disney feels your recorder could fall out of your hands and hurt somebody, or people may just try to hold Disney responsible if their camcorder gets broken.
Just my opinion.
2 simple reasons
1-copyright.. that's right folks.. Disney has copyrighted everything they can
2-show secrets.. even though you may be an innocent guest, who's to say that the person 2 rows up, who looks just as innocent, isn't working for Universal Creative
1-copyright.. that's right folks.. Disney has copyrighted everything they can
2-show secrets.. even though you may be an innocent guest, who's to say that the person 2 rows up, who looks just as innocent, isn't working for Universal Creative
mikebrakes
New Member
The strange thing is, they don't have a problem with you taping the shows. I never heard of any problems. Just a few rides.
One strange thing. I was taping the Turtles at Epcot and a castmember told me I could't use my tripod. She said Disney policy is they have to be tabletop size and you have to have your leg wrapped around it, or something bizarre like that. I was able to tape the show though. Only a problem with the tripod. Go figure!
One strange thing. I was taping the Turtles at Epcot and a castmember told me I could't use my tripod. She said Disney policy is they have to be tabletop size and you have to have your leg wrapped around it, or something bizarre like that. I was able to tape the show though. Only a problem with the tripod. Go figure!
Ok, if its for copywrite reasons, why can I get away with taping certain rides? I know at a lot of shows and such, they mention that you cannot use external lighting on you cameras and stuff, insinuating that you are allowed to tape the show as long as you dont use external lighting. Believe me, when they tell you that taping is not allowed at a certain attraction/ride (Tower of Terror, Carousel of Progress, etc.) I put my camera away, but on other things such as The Festival of the Lion King and the Winnie the Pooh ride, I seem to get the idea that I am allowed to tape it. Any thoughts?
CmdrTostada
Member
Hey Fanatic i did that but I didnt open the LCD screen, whenever im in a show and taping it i dont open the lcd screen.
hawaiianmickey
New Member
I don't know about all of you but I have a lot of rides from Disney World on film. Even Rock n' Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror. I have the little screen on my camera but didn't use it. But yeah...i have a lot of rides. As far as the shows goes, I have pretty much all of them. Except the 3D ones of course. But they never told me to put my camera down in American Adventure and the others. They just say not to use your external lighting. You can video tape the little mermaid show without the external lighting. they say that before the show begins. I have that also. but like i said, i don't use the little screen because yes, it is very bright and irritating on dark shows and rides. even for me. and that's my two cents.
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
To tape or not to tape...
The variance in WDW's video recording / photography restrictions between different attractions and between the various parks is quite ridiculous. In CoP, you can record and photograph (no flash or lights though,) however, in Timekeeper, you are not supposed to record or photograph whatsoever.
<- See this avatar? Guess where it came from. :lookaroun
People are going to take pictures, period. Whether someone doesn't understand English (the only language in which photography restrictions are given), or if they can't understand the muffled castmember over the poor quality speakers and loud guests, or if they just don't care... someone is going to end up doing it. Thus, there is no shame in my quest for pictures, video, etc. I, of course, make sure not to disturb other guests. And if I'm not supposed to be taping in the first place, I'm going to hide it quite well, thus offering absolutely no disturbance to guests.
Tiggerguy brought up an interesting point about competitors wanting to acquire photographic records of WDW attractions. Well, I promise that if someone from Universal wanted to take video of the ToT attraction without cm's knowing it - they would do just that. Heck, if I can do it, surely someone else with more resources whose sole purpose is to acquire such footage could do it with the greatest of ease. Thus, I would have to conclude that the photo restrictions bear no discouragement to these people.
My preference is for the "suggestion" not to take flash photos, etc. For example, in the Dinosaur preshow, the lab host makes a comment about, "Flash pictures - I wouldn't. It disturbs the homing signal..." etc. In my experience I have found this approach to be subtle in nature and yet quite effective. It also creates a themed reason why not to use a flash.
Ironically, using a flash in attractions (such as Timekeeper) actually renders poorer images than not using a flash - particularly since the picture taker is usually a good distance from the subject - and out of the flash's range. A flash also horribly overexposes objects in the foreground, such as the backs of people's heads. Just use a good digital camera, or push your 800 film to 3200. This has always worked very well for me.
It may help to view the attraction once - without pulling out your camera - and notice instances in which lighting is the best for picture taking. That way, when you return to take pictures, you're not holding a camera to your eye the entire time waiting for the right moment. In Timekeeper, a great time to shoot a picture is while you're "flying over the snow" towards the beginning of the show. The bright white light (for the now) is projected directly onto Timekeeper, thus creating a natural flash! Near the end of the show, an astronaut's space suit is projected directly over Timekeeper, again, perfect bright white lighting for flash-less pictures! It's just a matter of observation to get the most out of your photography.
Tk
The variance in WDW's video recording / photography restrictions between different attractions and between the various parks is quite ridiculous. In CoP, you can record and photograph (no flash or lights though,) however, in Timekeeper, you are not supposed to record or photograph whatsoever.
<- See this avatar? Guess where it came from. :lookaroun
People are going to take pictures, period. Whether someone doesn't understand English (the only language in which photography restrictions are given), or if they can't understand the muffled castmember over the poor quality speakers and loud guests, or if they just don't care... someone is going to end up doing it. Thus, there is no shame in my quest for pictures, video, etc. I, of course, make sure not to disturb other guests. And if I'm not supposed to be taping in the first place, I'm going to hide it quite well, thus offering absolutely no disturbance to guests.
Tiggerguy brought up an interesting point about competitors wanting to acquire photographic records of WDW attractions. Well, I promise that if someone from Universal wanted to take video of the ToT attraction without cm's knowing it - they would do just that. Heck, if I can do it, surely someone else with more resources whose sole purpose is to acquire such footage could do it with the greatest of ease. Thus, I would have to conclude that the photo restrictions bear no discouragement to these people.
My preference is for the "suggestion" not to take flash photos, etc. For example, in the Dinosaur preshow, the lab host makes a comment about, "Flash pictures - I wouldn't. It disturbs the homing signal..." etc. In my experience I have found this approach to be subtle in nature and yet quite effective. It also creates a themed reason why not to use a flash.
Ironically, using a flash in attractions (such as Timekeeper) actually renders poorer images than not using a flash - particularly since the picture taker is usually a good distance from the subject - and out of the flash's range. A flash also horribly overexposes objects in the foreground, such as the backs of people's heads. Just use a good digital camera, or push your 800 film to 3200. This has always worked very well for me.
It may help to view the attraction once - without pulling out your camera - and notice instances in which lighting is the best for picture taking. That way, when you return to take pictures, you're not holding a camera to your eye the entire time waiting for the right moment. In Timekeeper, a great time to shoot a picture is while you're "flying over the snow" towards the beginning of the show. The bright white light (for the now) is projected directly onto Timekeeper, thus creating a natural flash! Near the end of the show, an astronaut's space suit is projected directly over Timekeeper, again, perfect bright white lighting for flash-less pictures! It's just a matter of observation to get the most out of your photography.
Tk
CAPTAIN HOOK
Well-Known Member
During my last visit in '01 I taped everything (shows, TT, Big Thunder, Fantasmic, Splash Mountain) without being challenged by CM or a ed off audience member in the row of seats behind. Things to remember :
1) be considerate AT ALL TIMES to other guests
2) don't use external lighting on camcorders during live performances
3) don't use flash photography when requested not to
4) don't use the flip out lcd screen on camcorders - it annoys those people behind you
5) tripods are too easy for others to fall over - use a monopod
6) don't stand up to get a better view (unless you're at the back already)
Finally, copyright - I'm no legal expert but I think you will find that you only infringe copyright laws if you sell the tapes, there is no problem if they are for personal use and not for gain ( £ $ ). If copying shows and rides were a copyright issue then why do Disney let people in with cameras and why do the parks sell films and cameras ??
1) be considerate AT ALL TIMES to other guests
2) don't use external lighting on camcorders during live performances
3) don't use flash photography when requested not to
4) don't use the flip out lcd screen on camcorders - it annoys those people behind you
5) tripods are too easy for others to fall over - use a monopod
6) don't stand up to get a better view (unless you're at the back already)
Finally, copyright - I'm no legal expert but I think you will find that you only infringe copyright laws if you sell the tapes, there is no problem if they are for personal use and not for gain ( £ $ ). If copying shows and rides were a copyright issue then why do Disney let people in with cameras and why do the parks sell films and cameras ??
Scooter
Well-Known Member
" FOR THE COMFORT OF OTHERS...no eating, drinking, smoking, flash photography or video taping "
I think that says it all...Disney doesn't want anyone ruining anyone elses experiances on their rides.
It has nothing to do with copyrights or Theme park espionage idea theft.
If you have ever sat behind someone on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride who is snapping pictures or video taping you KNOW how much that can ruin the Disney experiance.
I sat behing a guy once who tried to tape the entire Tower of Terror experiance and between the bright red LED light he had on his camera and the bright view finding screen he had, it made for a miserable experiance for everyone around him.
Having said all that, I also believe that the no video taping rule was probably made when video cameras were 10 pound monstrocities that were hoisted on your shoulder and were not only a pain because of the lights but also blocked your view.:brick:
Since video cameras have become smaller, I think Disney is starting to ease up on some video restrictions.
But untill ALL people learn common sense ( which will never happen ) Disney will never allow video cams on fast moving rides.
And PLEASE people....PLEASE don't take Pictures with a FLASH camera in dark areas and rides....it ruins it for everyone..and besides...if you buy the Post Cards in the gift shops, you'll find that the pictures are probably better than YOURS anyway...
:animwink:
I think that says it all...Disney doesn't want anyone ruining anyone elses experiances on their rides.
It has nothing to do with copyrights or Theme park espionage idea theft.
If you have ever sat behind someone on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride who is snapping pictures or video taping you KNOW how much that can ruin the Disney experiance.
I sat behing a guy once who tried to tape the entire Tower of Terror experiance and between the bright red LED light he had on his camera and the bright view finding screen he had, it made for a miserable experiance for everyone around him.
Having said all that, I also believe that the no video taping rule was probably made when video cameras were 10 pound monstrocities that were hoisted on your shoulder and were not only a pain because of the lights but also blocked your view.:brick:
Since video cameras have become smaller, I think Disney is starting to ease up on some video restrictions.
But untill ALL people learn common sense ( which will never happen ) Disney will never allow video cams on fast moving rides.
And PLEASE people....PLEASE don't take Pictures with a FLASH camera in dark areas and rides....it ruins it for everyone..and besides...if you buy the Post Cards in the gift shops, you'll find that the pictures are probably better than YOURS anyway...
:animwink: